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[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Well said... it amazes me how so many people can't make this correlation. OWS exists because some seriously fucked up shit has been going on in this country. Its not because people don't want to work.

No, it's because lazy fucks want a free ride and the ability to shit and defacte all over Philadelphia. They also don't want to pay their 100k loans they got for an Advanced Medieval Bulgarian Art and Cooking BA. Some of the really deluded ones even want to supress free speech.

 

[Previous]

You've got to admit that at least some OWSers do sound like that. No, they aren't the majority and they don't speak for the whole movement, but that sentiment is present.

That's what I'm saying.

Seriously dude....

Yes

 

[ivysaur12]

The real question is, will Ripclawe add to this enlightened discussion?

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Looks at OP, yep its Ripclawe. And lol @ Corolla, dumbass.

 

[daycru]

Bailed on Carolla's podcast when every show was him screeching about how great torture was. Not even in a comedian way, just eternal ramblings.

 

[starchild excalibur]

Undeserved medals: bad, undeserved money: no comment.

pretty much

I may not side with the OWS protesters, but I've always understood most of it to be a protest against those who milk the system and shirk responsibility in order to attain personal profits and not a protest against people who legitimately earn their riches.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

No, it's because lazy fucks want a free ride and the ability to shit and defacte all over Philadelphia. They also don't want to pay their 100k loans they got for an Advanced Medieval Bulgarian Art and Cooking BA. Some of the really deluded ones even want to supress free speech.

You're mad at some kids because you assume they want a free ride and don't want to pay their loans, but you're not more mad at the corporations and businesspeople that actually have gotten silver spoon free rides and used that political influence to steal money and receive bailouts that they didn't need or deserve?

 

[The Technomancer]

pretty much

I may not side with the OWS protesters, but I've always understood most of it to be a protest against those who milk the system and shirk responsibility in order to attain personal profits and not a protest against people who legitimately earn their riches.

The impression I got was that it was specifically about the lack of accountability following the recent financial disasters.

Maybe I'm projecting. Because thats sure what I'm pissed about.

 

[dabig2]

He isnt wrong about all the self absorbed little shits that think they are entitled to something. For years we have gone about trying to spare any kids feelings. Hell the whole politically correct movement is just there to spare peoples feelings. Well if all we do is spare someones feelings, will they ever learn? Will people ever realize there are negative consequences for their actions? Will they ever think, hey that guy is so much better than me, maybe i should strive to be better myself?

Heh, I don't know, maybe they see how the so-called "I got mine" crowd is able to make criminal decisions day by day and not only get away with it, but are reward for it with the money of the very disenfranchised they took advantage of.

 

[Tristam]

So I admit I am bias.

Son, I am bias.

 

[Karma Kramer]

You're mad at some kids because you assume they want a free ride and don't want to pay their loans, but you're not more mad at the corporations and businesspeople that actually have gotten silver spoon free rides and used that political influence to steal money and receive bailouts that they didn't need or deserve?

Don't bother with him. Many have gone down this road before. It leads no where.

 

[wenis]

You're mad at some kids because you assume they want a free ride and don't want to pay their loans, but you're not more mad at the corporations and businesspeople that actually have gotten silver spoon free rides and used that political influence to steal money and receive bailouts that they didn't need or deserve?

But they pulled up their boot straps man... takes a lot of work to scam a bunch of money.

 

[Rabbit Lord]

I don't really know who makes up the OWS protests, haven't really spent the time on it. I do though agree with him about a lot of people feeling entitled, every kid being told they're special etc.

 

[nib95]

You really think there aren't any obnoxious, under-informed kids in OWS?

Of course there are. But a minority. Whereas it seems a large portion of people who are against the movement fall under the majority in the same respect. Many, maybe even most (even as evidenced even by this thread), are clearly under informed about the reasons why people are protesting or the root problems people have with the current Government system.

I try not to watch Fox News much (for obvious reasons), but based on some of the replies in this thread. I'm assuming Fox and other Right Wing media reports that most people protesting are doing so because rich people stole their jobs, and the rest are just under-age hippies?

Lol...

You're mad at some kids because you assume they want a free ride and don't want to pay their loans, but you're not more mad at the corporations and businesspeople that actually have gotten silver spoon free rides and used that political influence to steal money and receive bailouts that they didn't need or deserve?

He's caught the tail and missed the Elephant.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

You're mad at some kids because you assume they want a free ride and don't want to pay their loans, but you're not more mad at the corporations and businesspeople that actually have gotten silver spoon free rides and used that political influence to steal money and receive bailouts that they didn't need or deserve?

At least they have the decency not to shit all over the streets. They also tend to produce useful things, even if they are scum, at least something productive comes from them.

Don't bother with him. Many have gone down this road before. It leads no where.

Oh look the little coward is back.

 

[Flynn]

The fact that most know that a distinction is being made between the 99% who live in this country and the 1% who have all the wealth and make all the rules is a huge success.

Even if they don't agree that something needs to be done about it.

 

[KHarvey16]

At least they have the decency not to shit all over the streets. They also tend to produce useful things, even if they are scum, at least something productive comes from them.



Oh look the litlle coward is back.

What percentage of protesters lack a job?

 

[demon]

Don't bother with him. Many have gone down this road before. It leads no where.

Yeah Manos is the master of bullshit. Better to just ignore him.

 

[Tristam]

At least they have the decency not to shit all over the streets. They also tend to produce useful things, even if they are scum, at least something productive comes from them.

Since the protest is nominally and in large part substantively concerned with Wall Street, nb that people in finance make money by moving wealth around, not by actually creating any new wealth.

 

[nib95]

At least they have the decency not to shit all over the streets. They also tend to produce useful things, even if they are scum, at least something productive comes from them.

Produce useful things....such as a global recession? Producing useful things now and again is not a pardon for crimes that screw billions out of money, jobs, liberties and more.


And the fact that you're more concerned about people dirtying up streets than creating global collapses of economy...I....I don't even...

 

[Oblivion]

You're mad at some kids because you assume they want a free ride and don't want to pay their loans, but you're not more mad at the corporations and businesspeople that actually have gotten silver spoon free rides and used that political influence to steal money and receive bailouts that they didn't need or deserve?

Not all criminals are created equal.

By that I mean, poor criminals are infinitely worse than wealthy criminals.

 

[thekad]

At least they have the decency not to shit all over the streets. They also tend to produce useful things, even if they are scum, at least something productive comes from them.

Like financial catastrophes.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Yeah Manos is the master of bullshit. Better to just ignore him.

Oh look some who was to scared to debate trying to supress others from doing so.

Since the protest is nominally and in large part substantively concerned with Wall Street, nb that people in finance make money by moving wealth around, not by actually creating any new wealth.

If you have a return on an investment it's creating wealth, it's not just moving money around.

 

[PastorOfMuppets]

Listen, I don't agree with Adam Carolla and I stopped listening to his podcasts because of rants such as this that were largely based on anecdotal evidence and emotional appeals.

However, I do understand where he's coming from. Adam's parents were hippies who never pushed him, he grew up in the California public school system and when he graduated from high school was considered illiterate and he has clawed and climbed his way out of the trash heap to become a millionaire. To him, he is a product of 100% hard work and determination so it makes sense that he believes this. A lot of people who go through the rags to riches story tend to believe this. That's why a higher proportion of athletes tend to be conservative as well.

 

[Oblivion]

Produce useful things....such as a global recession?

And the fact that you're more concerned about people dirtying up streets over creating global collapses of economy...I....I don't even...

Manos seems like a decent thinker most of the time, but for some reason when it comes to OWS-related threads, the cognitive processing centers of his brain suddenly seem to shut down.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Listen, I don't agree with Adam Carolla and I stopped listening to his podcasts because of rants such as this that were largely based on anecdotal evidence and emotional appeals.

However, I do understand where he's coming from. Adam's parents were hippies who never pushed him, he grew up in the California public school system and when he graduated from high school was considered illiterate and he has clawed and climbed his way out of the trash heap to become a millionaire. To him, he is a product of 100% hard work and determination so it makes sense that he believes this. A lot of people who go through the rags to riches story tend to believe this. That's why a higher proportion of athletes tend to be conservative as well.

He's still a part of the 99%. Hopefully, he'll come to the basic realization that there are people just as rich as him that didn't earn their keep.

As trite as it is, one of the protest sayings is right: why is it easier to believe that 150,000,000 people are lazy rather than 400 people are being greedy?

 

[Vincent Alexander]

I agree with most of what he said. I'm just confused why the Hell he correlates any of it with the occupy movement.

 

[FlawlessCowboy]

Spot on assessment if you ask me.

Occupy is one of the worst jokes I've seen in recent memory.

 

[dabig2]

At least they have the decency not to shit all over the streets. They also tend to produce useful things, even if they are scum, at least something productive comes from them.

What a pile of fucking shit. The "productive things" they "create" is erased when you factor in the millions of livelihoods that have been ruined or affected by their criminal behavior - legal and/or moral.

 

[wenis]

Manos is all about MRE's and protecting his home... don't worry bro, I got ya back (but just not in this particular subject).

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Produce useful things....such as a global recession? Producing useful things now and again is not a pardon for crimes that screw billions out of money, jobs, liberties and more.

Still more than OWS had created

And the fact that you're more concerned about people dirtying up streets over creating global collapses of economy...I....I don't even...

You think it's acceptable to shit in the streets?

 

[KHarvey16]

Still more than OWS had created




You think it's acceptable to shit in the streets?

What percentage of the protesters lack a job?

 

[Doctor West]

I agree with everything Carolla said.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Manos is all about MRE's and protecting his home... don't worry bro, I got ya back (but just not in this particular subject).

It's cool

What a pile of fucking shit. The "productive things" they "create" is erased when you factor in the millions of livelihoods that have been ruined or affected by their criminal behavior - legal and/or moral.

That's not the point. My contention was simply that they have been more productive and created more things than anything to to come from the Occupy people.

 

[Door2Dawn]

Listen, I don't agree with Adam Carolla and I stopped listening to his podcasts because of rants such as this that were largely based on anecdotal evidence and emotional appeals.

However, I do understand where he's coming from. Adam's parents were hippies who never pushed him, he grew up in the California public school system and when he graduated from high school was considered illiterate and he has clawed and climbed his way out of the trash heap to become a millionaire. To him, he is a product of 100% hard work and determination so it makes sense that he believes this. A lot of people who go through the rags to riches story tend to believe this. That's why a higher proportion of athletes tend to be conservative as well.

I don't give a shit about his upbringing. When you're wrong, you're wrong.

 

[UrokeJoe]

Shitting in the streets must of created some jobs right? I mean somebody has to clean it up.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

As trite as it is, one of the protest sayings is right: why is it easier to believe that 150,000,000 people are lazy rather than 400 people are being greedy?

Who actually believes that? One of the worst bullshit things Occupy has pulled is to try and force people into their laughable 99%

What about the top 95%-98%, are they all cool and oppressed people?

Shitting in the streets must of created some jobs right? I mean somebody has to clean it up.

No regular employees, all it does is drain the city of revenue.

 

[CrankyJay]

He isnt wrong about all the self absorbed little shits that think they are entitled to something. For years we have gone about trying to spare any kids feelings. Hell the whole politically correct movement is just there to spare peoples feelings. Well if all we do is spare someones feelings, will they ever learn? Will they ever realize there are negative consequences for their actions? Will they ever think, hey that guy is so much better than me, maybe i should strive to be better myself?

He's not, but he's attributing the movement entirely to them and not the white collar criminals on Wall Street and in Washington.

 

[WanderingWind]

Listen, I don't agree with Adam Carolla and I stopped listening to his podcasts because of rants such as this that were largely based on anecdotal evidence and emotional appeals.

However, I do understand where he's coming from. Adam's parents were hippies who never pushed him, he grew up in the California public school system and when he graduated from high school was considered illiterate and he has clawed and climbed his way out of the trash heap to become a millionaire. To him, he is a product of 100% hard work and determination so it makes sense that he believes this. A lot of people who go through the rags to riches story tend to believe this. That's why a higher proportion of athletes tend to be conservative as well.

Yeah, clawed his way from a middle class, California hell hole. The man clearly knows struggle.

 

[KHarvey16]

That's not the point. My contention was simply that they have been more productive and created more things than anything to to come from the Occupy people.

What percentage of the protesters lack jobs?

 

[dabig2]

That's not the point. My contention was simply that they have been more productive and created more things than anything to to come from the Occupy people.

And my point is that they have destroyed far more than they have "created". The Occupy movement didn't just spontaneously emerge from the whims of some lazy kids. It emerged from those directly and indirectly affected by the mess that those same "wealth creators" perpetrated.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

What percentage of the protesters lack jobs?

Do you know?

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Lazy kids are lazy, but somehow coordinated and motivated enough to get millions to protest with them.

 

[akira28]

I love Adam Carolla and don't care what he says about Occupy Wall Street. I will, at very least, fail to take his words very seriously.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Lazy kids are lazy, but somehow coordinated and motivated enough to get millions to protest with them.

Whoa, cowboy. Logic? We don't take too kindly to your kind around here.

 

[UrokeJoe]

No regular employees, all it does is drain the city of revenue.

Like the bailouts?

 

[nib95]

Still more than OWS had created

OWS is in it's infancy, and I'd argue it many ways it's achieved a heck of a lot more in such little time.

Manos seems like a decent thinker most of the time, but for some reason when it comes to OWS-related threads, the cognitive processing centers of his brain suddenly seem to shut down.

Obviously I don't know him on a personal level, but I am intrigued by what the reason is for his viewpoints on this particular subject, since he seems relatively well educated. Perhaps he envisages a gap for him to get wealthy off of laymen or abusing the system post Law Degree or something, or maybe his family is super wealthy and falls in that 1%, perhaps he, or they have even profited or done well from some of these loop holes or other broken flaws in the current system? Who knows. Might not be any of those things, I'm certainly curious.

I'm actually also from a relatively wealthy family, and do comfortably on my own laurels. But that wouldn't ever lead me or my family to shut off to these injustices and ignore the plight of the majority of a nations population to pander to a small, often corrupt few that have such limited accountability it irks the brain. And my family worked their asses off to get where they are. And no I don't mean doing a college law degree or working some office job with lunches, breaks and holidays. That'd be akin to vacation compared to what they had to endure.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

And my point is that they have destroyed far more than they have "created". The Occupy movement didn't just spontaneously emerge from the whims of some lazy kids. It emerged from those directly and indirectly affected by the mess that those same "wealth creators" perpetrated.

Than why is it mostly middle-class white people? I though African Americans and Hispanics took it even worse, but why are they not out there?

 

[KHarvey16]

Do you know?

Nope, which makes it a good thing I don't claim to. So, what percentage of the protesters lack jobs?

 

[Fenderputty]

At least they have the decency not to shit all over the streets. They also tend to produce useful things, even if they are scum, at least something productive comes from them.

This post is amazing.