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NFL 2011 Week 17 |OT| It's Time To Shut Up, Fat Boy

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holy shit it looks like brett swain will be starting for us at WR this week because of injuries. it has gotten so bad that we have a FS taking reps at WR this week.

plus for the first time in NFL history, we will have as many white WR's on the active gameday rosters as black wr's! now you might say "who gives a shit you're playing the rams!" and that's true, but they beat the saints.

oh wait i forgot the only reason the saints lost that game is because sean payton broke his leg or whatever happened
 
Lambtron said:
Usually it's full game broadcasts of each playoff game + the Super Bowl. I've been waiting for this to hit Blu-Ray. I'm pissed if that's not happening.
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Gotcha.

I have
720P quality rips of all the games in the 2010 season
.
I'd buy it if they released it though.
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
holy shit it looks like brett swain will be starting for us at WR this week because of injuries. it has gotten so bad that we have a FS taking reps at WR this week.

plus for the first time in NFL history, we will have as many white WR's on the active gameday rosters as black wr's! now you might say "who gives a shit you're playing the rams!" and that's true, but they beat the saints.

oh wait i forgot the only reason the saints lost that game is because sean payton broke his leg or whatever happened
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Swain will lead you to victory - he led the Packers to a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP.
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
holy shit it looks like brett swain will be starting for us at WR this week because of injuries. it has gotten so bad that we have a FS taking reps at WR this week.

plus for the first time in NFL history, we will have as many white WR's on the active gameday rosters as black wr's! now you might say "who gives a shit you're playing the rams!" and that's true, but they beat the saints.

oh wait i forgot the only reason the saints lost that game is because sean payton broke his leg or whatever happened
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The Rams don't have a single CB on the current roster that was with the team in Week 1. I think your white WRs will be fine
 
squicken said:
The Rams don't have a single CB on the current roster that was with the team in Week 1. I think your white WRs will be fine
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i'm also not sure who will return punts or kicks for us since both ginn and williams are out. i think kendall hunter can do KR's but i don't know about our PR's.... reggie smith our backup SS?
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
i'm also not sure who will return punts or kicks for us since both ginn and williams are out. i think kendall hunter can do KR's but i don't know about our PR's.... reggie smith our backup SS?
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Unless Alex pulls a Brees and single-handedly blows it, you guys aren't losing the game. And Harbaugh does everything he can to not let Alex influence a game's outcome. Don't even know why you are concerned with particulars.

Maybe if Bradford was playing you'd have to worry about getting ripped by playing your backups. But someone higher up made sure Spags shut Bradford down lest he go further down the David Carr Road
 
wait a minute! i now know why harbaugh signed swain..... he KNEW we would eventually matchup with the packers and swain is in erron's head! he knows all of his audibles and checks! harbaugh you genius!

CHINA MAN! CHINA MAN!
IT'S AN AUDIBLE TO A SCREEN!

niners defeat packers 42-3 (on 14 david akers FG's)
 
Rewatched the GB/CHI game...

+ Aaron Rodgers is absurd.
+ Charles Woodson is the best player on this defense
+ Clay Matthews isn't bad either. Shame he gets no help.
+ Desmond Bishop is 3rd best. Dudes amazing.

- Entire DL is useless
- Charlie Peprah is absurd(ly bad)
- AJ Hawk needs to be benched
- Tramon Williams needs to get his head in the game
- Takes Mike McCarthy 2 quarters to realize crossing routes work against man/press
 
You have Drew Brees breaking Dan Marino's single-season record for yards passing. You have Tom Brady just 190 yards behind him and you have Aaron Rodgers with 45 touchdown passes.

How do you stop these guys? Or at least slow them down?

"You have to beat up their receivers," one NFC personnel director said. "These quarterbacks are too good now. They will eat you alive if you play zone against them and let their receivers find the open spots. They are too smart. You have to mug their outside players, not let them get into their routes as easy as they can against zone."

Those three quarterbacks are arguably the three favorites going into the NFL playoffs next week. The Packers are the top seed in the NFL and the Patriots are expected to join them in the AFC, with the Saints likely a third-seed that is playing as well as any team right now.

They are the top three passing teams in the NFL. The Saints are first, followed by the Patriots and then the Packers. The quarterback play for all three has been sensational, but there have been games where each has struggled.

For Brees and the Saints, it came in a loss to the Rams. For Rodgers, it came two weeks ago against the Chiefs in the Packers' only loss. Brady's lowest output in terms of yards came against the Steelers, but his second lowest came against the Chiefs.

Kansas City is a team with two good, physical corners who can play man-press coverage and knock your receivers off their routes. They did that to the Packers and to the Patriots in Week 11.

The Rams physically beat up the Saints when they played them, sacking Brees six times. That took him out of his groove.

"Hitting all of them is key," one NFC coach said. "But you have to make it tough for their receivers. They are so good at hitting them on the run. They are so accurate that if you just let the receivers go where they want, they will kill you."

The Falcons played a lot of zone against the Saints on Monday and Brees ate them alive. He did what he wanted when he wanted to do it, throwing four touchdown passes on the night.

On several big plays, Saints receivers got wide open because the Falcons got lost in zone coverage.

A week after Rodgers struggled against the Chiefs' man coverage, he threw five touchdown passes against the Bears -- primarily a Cover-2 zone team.

"Soft-zone defense may seem like a way to slow those three down, but all it does it allow free release for their receivers," one NFC personnel director said. "Why not take your chances beating them up? Make the quarterback pull the ball down when the receiver can't get into the route."

The Patriots lack deep speed, which shows up when teams press their receivers, including Wes Welker. The Packers didn't have Greg Jennings against the Chiefs, and they had trouble beating the man coverage. The Saints have a little more speed outside in Robert Meachem and Devery Henderson, but the book on both is that they can have problems with press-man coverage.

So how do you stop the big-three passing offenses? You don't. But the best option is to mug the receivers. That might lead to some big plays -- a few penalties here and there -- but it also could lead to some turnovers and to the disruption of the passing game's timing.

Either way, it won't be easy but at least beating up the receivers gives a defense a fighting chance.
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/...pting-receivers-key-to-dealing-with-air-elite




Take the hint, VanGorder.
 
TheLegendary said:
No Blu Ray again? The fuck?




More accurately, it took him 2 quarters to be confident enough in the back up hodgepodge line to feel confident running longer developing routes
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Even more accurately, it took him 2 quarters to realize that short of a Billy Cole incident, the Packers were not going to be called for a penalty
 
It's pretty obvious that you have to get physical with the receivers in order to disrupt these passing offenses. Problem is a lot of teams flat out don't have the personnel to play hard man coverage like that.

Also, the average wide receiver is getting bigger while the defensive back is still averaging around 5'10". It's too easy for quarterback to just lob it up and have the big physical receiver retrieve the ball. You can't tell me that quarterbacks are reading the defense on a fade route at the back of the endzone right at the snap.
 
cajunator said:
I wish the Saints America's Game was available to purchase, but its only on Itunes.
It was never put on sale. I'm pretty sure every single other one is available to buy so Im not sure whats going on there. Granted I have recorded it several times so I can watch it anytime, but its just odd.
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Oh, haha, I thought he was buying a replica Super Bowl ring! Seeing as a Packer fan posted that, it didn't even strike me as odd.
 
Kosmo said:
Miami, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Houston.

Who would ever put one of those games on national TV?
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With the cycle of NFL parity, that wouldn't matter in five years. Besides, don't people say that now about the NFC West?
 
I'm not entirely convinced that St. Louis or Kansas City had the personnel either, yet they were successful against NO and GB. I feel that Dunta is more suited to playing man coverage rather than zone, judging from the past two years he's been in Atlanta. I just really don't want to see a repeat of what happened on Monday night in the playoffs yet again.
 
RBH said:
I'm not entirely convinced that St. Louis or Kansas City had the personnel either, yet they were successful against NO and GB. I feel that Dunta is more suited to playing man coverage rather than zone, judging from the past two years he's been in Atlanta. I just really don't want to see a repeat of what happened on Monday night in the playoffs yet again.
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If there's any non division team that should know how to play the Packers, it's the Falcons.

I don't know what the Falcons problem is. Seems like they have a competent defense, and Matt Ryan is good enough to keep up with most quarterbacks, but the Falcons just never set the tempo for their games. I said this last season, but they just give off this image of being soft.
 
RBH said:
I'm not entirely convinced that St. Louis or Kansas City had the personnel either, yet they were successful against NO and GB..
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NO was coming off the game where they score 60 on the Colts and had a major letdown. Rams had a punt block, a defensive TD, and two other TDs off short fields. SJax also tore up their D. It was just a fluky game. Feely was the starter and played decent. Brees just shit the bed and lost the game. It happens.
 
RBH said:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/...pting-receivers-key-to-dealing-with-air-elite




Take the hint, VanGorder.
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That's BS. The Bears played so much man coverage last week. Saying the Bears are a cover 2 team is like saying the Packers are a zone blitz team. We are (were) at our best playing man with a single high safety last year. Doesnt work when you dont have a pass rush out side of Thor and your best safety is injured, but I digress.

Bears play as much/if not more Cover 3 than they do Cover 2, and last week they played more press man than either because that was the "Chiefs' blueprint". Didnt work for them. Last year the Bears were extremely effective shutting us down using their zone defenses, especially Cover 3.

Sure teams have their "bread and butter", but defenses are so multi faceted that everyone is (should be) doing everything right now. Like Deacon said it's all about what your personnel is good at.
 
Bears have definitely cut down on their cover 2 usage. It was hilarious seeing people beg for cover 2 when tebow was doing his thing when in reality when they switched to cover 2 tebow started rolling.
 
beast786 said:
Do people actually own HDTV/Bluray in GB-Wis?

Makes sense for no Bluray version.
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RBH said:
Take the hint, VanGorder.
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No way, soft zone coverages give you a chance to make a surprise interception. The fact the other team makes 99% of their third down attempts is not a factor in this equation.

And besides, whom will Brent Grimes beat up on? He can hit them in the stomach.
 
TheLegendary said:
That's BS. The Bears played so much man coverage last week. Saying the Bears are a cover 2 team is like saying the Packers are a zone blitz team. We are (were) at our best playing man with a single high safety last year. Doesnt work when you dont have a pass rush out side of Thor and your best safety is injured, but I digress.

Bears play as much/if not more Cover 3 than they do Cover 2, and last week they played more press man than either because that was the "Chiefs' blueprint". Didnt work for them. Last year the Bears were extremely effective shutting us down using their zone defenses, especially Cover 3.

Sure teams have their "bread and butter", but defenses are so multi faceted that everyone is (should be) doing everything right now. Like Deacon said it's all about what your personnel is good at.
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And my argument is that guys like Dunta and even Owens may be better suited for man over zone based upon their play the past two years. I just want to see some adjustments made because I got a serious sense of deja vu while watching Monday's game. It'd also be nice if we got any modicum of pressure from the d-line as well.
 
Hey Bears fans I heard that the Bears might cut Briggs at the end of the season. You guys think that is likely? I would love to see the Eagles pick him up.
 
Wow, this is sad

If the 49ers shutout the Rams again and Akers makes 4 FGs, he'll have scored more points then the Rams for the season (168pts to 166pts)

Its sad for the following reasons

A) A kicker outscored a team

B) The 49ers used their kicker way to much.

If I'm on the Rams and a kicker scores more points then we did as a team, I'd be pissed.
 
Apparently Hines Ward has plans to play out the remaining two years on his contract. Gotta be honest, I don't see the Steelers keeping him on. They have to design plays specifically to get him catches and most of those are screens.
 
yankeehater said:
How is Ray Edwards doing? People in Philly were pissed when the Eagles got Babin instead of him.
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"Disappointing" would be the word of choice I think. He's got like 2 or 3 sacks for the year. We can only pressure butterbeans like Blaine Gabbert. People are saying he is shit without Jared Allen.

And as for the attitude he brings to the fanbase, here's a nice tweet from him after MNF

Ray_Edwards It's funny how ppl judge you on ur job but who can judge you when you asking someone do u want fries with that or asking paper or plastic

You tell 'em Ray!
 
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