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PG2G said:
Maybe Microsoft needs to start commissioning a Nexus-like line. Sign me up for a Galaxy Zune :P
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All WP7 phones are already strictly controlled by MS. In that sense, every WP7 phone is already the MS equivalent of a Nexus, they all have virtually the same single-core Qualcomm CPU, they all have the same screen resolution, they all have the same RAM, and most of them have the same storage. They all run the exact same OS, which MS doesn't allow carriers or OEM to customize.

The whole point of the Google Nexus line is a phone which is strictly stock Android without carrier and OEM customizations. Which is what every WP7 phone already is. And it's holding WP7 back, because now MS is in a position where they are telling their hardware partners they can't innovate on the hardware. The Nexus line is just a small fraction of all the many Android handsets available, which cover every end of the market from the bottom end of free devices on contract to the top end of $300 devices even with a contract.

The Nexus line isn't even meant to be a mass-market consumer line of phones. Google conceived the Nexus concept to provide developers with a device they could develop for, a baseline platform with just stock Android so the devs wouldn't have to fight with HTC Sense and TouchWiz and MotoShit while just coding a basic Android app. Since then, because of widespread hatred for the OEM customizations, people who will never write an Android app have started buying Nexus devices just to avoid shitty-ass custom skins. However, that doesn't change the basic mission of the Nexus line, which is to be a phone developers can target for baseline Android app design.

Nexus devices never have the latest hardware anyways, again by intent. Google isn't trying to compete with it's own hardware partners by selling Nexus devices, and for this reason they intentionally use hardware that everyone else already is selling. If you want the latest hardware, a Nexus device isn't what you want.
 
I agree, Nexus probably wasn't the best frame of reference for what I meant.

Though, I don't agree with the Galaxy nexus not being a mass market device. Nexus One? Sure, that was sold unsubsidized and direct from Google (initially at least). It's pretty clear that things have changed.
 
Unknown Soldier, it's clear that what appeals to you about Android and turns you off about Windows Phone is the same stuff that turns many of us off from Android and attracts us to Windows Phone. So I would recommend taking your earlier advice and leaving this thread because you don't seem to understand that different people want different experiences.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
All WP7 phones are already strictly controlled by MS. In that sense, every WP7 phone is already the MS equivalent of a Nexus, they all have virtually the same single-core Qualcomm CPU, they all have the same screen resolution, they all have the same RAM, and most of them have the same storage. They all run the exact same OS, which MS doesn't allow carriers or OEM to customize.

The whole point of the Google Nexus line is a phone which is strictly stock Android without carrier and OEM customizations. Which is what every WP7 phone already is. And it's holding WP7 back, because now MS is in a position where they are telling their hardware partners they can't innovate on the hardware. The Nexus line is just a small fraction of all the many Android handsets available, which cover every end of the market from the bottom end of free devices on contract to the top end of $300 devices even with a contract.

The Nexus line isn't even meant to be a mass-market consumer line of phones. Google conceived the Nexus concept to provide developers with a device they could develop for, a baseline platform with just stock Android so the devs wouldn't have to fight with HTC Sense and TouchWiz and MotoShit while just coding a basic Android app. Since then, because of widespread hatred for the OEM customizations, people who will never write an Android app have started buying Nexus devices just to avoid shitty-ass custom skins. However, that doesn't change the basic mission of the Nexus line, which is to be a phone developers can target for baseline Android app design.

Nexus devices never have the latest hardware anyways, again by intent. Google isn't trying to compete with it's own hardware partners by selling Nexus devices, and for this reason they intentionally use hardware that everyone else already is selling. If you want the latest hardware, a Nexus device isn't what you want.
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I think wp7 being based on windows CE is the main reason of the hardware limitations, not because Microsoft is holding it back purposely. At least that is my understanding.
 
ElNino said:
LOL, $480.49. They don't even try to hide it, "You can show the people how rich you are buying this app".
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Is it from the same dev as that Diamond screensaver for Windows Mobile? It was literally a picture of a diamond beeing sold for over 300 euro's... With the exact same text "You can show the people how rich you are buying this app" I wonder how many dumb people bought that app
 
VanMardigan said:
Link? The ones in the marketplace just now don't look official.
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Don't have one. Here's the PR:

Vimeo Soon To Be Available On Most Smartphones And Tablets

NEW YORK, Jan. 9, 2012 – Vimeo®, an operating business of IAC [NASDAQ: IACI], today announced its Apps for Android, Amazon Kindle Fire, and Windows Phone. The Apps are free to download from the Android Market, Amazon App Store for Android, and Windows Phone Marketplace.
"With the widespread accessibility of high-quality video on mobile devices and high- speed mobile Internet access, people use their mobile devices not only to watch video but to shoot and then upload video to share online," said Joe Schmitt, lead mobile developer at Vimeo. "With mobile devices making up approximately 15 percent of our site traffic, we recognize the importance of expanding our platforms to allow people to access Vimeo from as many devices as possible."

Available today, both the Vimeo for Android and Vimeo for Windows Phone Apps enable users to browse and watch the full range of videos on Vimeo, in addition to the ability to like, comment on, or add videos to their Watch Later queue. Personalized access to member's Inbox, Watch Later list or prior Liked videos is also available in the new beautiful, easy-to-use interfaces.

"Windows Phone is backed by a rich developer ecosystem that continues to build a variety apps and games, like Vimeo, that take advantage of the phone's unique features and design," said Todd Brix, senior director, Windows Phone Marketplace, Microsoft Corp. "The new Vimeo app on the Windows phone is a deeply integrated video experience that lets users shoot, upload and share content."

Android and Windows Phone Vimeo App Features:
· Free to download from the Android Market, Amazon App Store for Android, and Windows Phone Marketplace
· Compatible with all Android devices running Android version 2.3 (Gingerbread) and above,
Amazon Fire and Windows Phone devices running Windows Phone 7.5 (Mango) and above
· Easily upload your raw footage or previously edited creations in HD or SD
· Pause/resume uploads and get reminded when a video is paused
· Replace existing videos
· Edit titles, descriptions, tags, privacy settings, and credits
· Share videos via Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, WordPress, Email, and SMS
· Watch and manage all your Vimeo videos and download them to your camera roll
· Watch videos from your Vimeo Inbox, Watch Later queue, and videos you like
· Easily like videos, comment on videos, and add videos to your Watch Later queue
· Discover new and interesting videos curated by Vimeo Staff
· Add videos to Groups, Channels, and Albums
· Access stats on daily plays, likes, and comments
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pretty cute
 
Came in here to say that even though I'm an iPhone owner, I really really hope Windows Phone 7 makes more impact this year on the market because it honestly deserves it. Gorgeous UI, fabulous social integration... depending on how the iPhone 5 turns out I'm very compelled to give Mango a try. I was never an Android fan so I'd love for WP7 to become the popular third pillar it needs to be.

Hell, this is my current iPhone theme:

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It only has limited live-tile abilities but it almost captures the look that I wanted. So beautiful. I want the real one.
 
Soulscribe said:
It only has limited live-tile abilities but it almost captures the look that I wanted. So beautiful. I want the real one.
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Then jump ship and get the real one. I had iPhone for years and I definitely used my phone more since I switch to Windows Phone last year. The UI is one of the best. You can pick up a cheap last year model and play with it if you still feel the need to go back to iPhone.
 
i'm guessing the thicker yet prettier curved glass was compromised for a thicker battery (for lte radio). at least i would hope so.
 
thirty said:
in the bigger picture, 99% of people won't be able to see any differences.
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Funny, because it's true. Sometimes I really had to point it out, when I showed it to others and most of the time they didn't care. The Venue Pro has a curved gorilla glass screen and hardly got more than a "yeah, nice" for it.
 
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