TyrantGuardian
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Dota 2 Beta Thread: [Brewmaster]
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0.3 is actually on the fast side of start up attack/cast animations. Crystal Nova has nearly 0 travel time, and Ice Cage is also really fast. Her ending animation is easily cancelled, and is probably how I learned about animation cancelling in the first place.
The reason AA's is so short is because all his skills are reliant on perfect timing. They're already hard enough to use as is, giving them a delay would be horrible. He also has no hard stuns, so he needs to be able to cast move to stay alive.
An example of a slow cast animation would be Leshrac. I cannot count how many times I've accidentally missed a critical stun because I cancelled it in the clicking frenzy.
Btw any tips on using CMs ult? I mean even when the opportunity to use it is kinda good, I die in like 1 second
My suggestion?
Don't.
Landing her ult is a luxury, it is by no means an integral part of playing CM. Your main job is to make enemies gankable, and to stop people from ganking your allies, and to provide everyone with a free sobi mask. If you can't land your ult without putting yourself in danger, it's usually better to just hang back. If you do land it, however, it is very strong. Off the top of my head, good times to use her ult are:
1) When the teamfight is nearing its finish, everyone's used up their stuns, people need cleaning up. In that situation, you run in and ult.
2) There are few interrupts on the other side, and someone on your team (who is not you) is the focus fire target, you can ult a little bit to the side and hope the RNG god favors you.
3) In a jungle gank, you're in the woods, hiding behind some trees or your allies. There's no way for people to get to you without a blink/running through the battlefield. You ult, again, on the periphery and hope for the best.
4) There is a large creepwave coming and you want to clear it fast because there might be a fight going down. Feel free to ult. Rarely will people rely or even expect CM's ult to do anything. It's not a crucial resource like ES' Echo Slam, Tide's Ravage or Enigma's Black Hole.
5) After or during one of the aforementioned mass disables
6) You have invis or haste. Run into a solo target (who doesn't have an interrupt, remember, Ice Cage mini-stuns, snares and disarms, but does not silence), Nova-Cage-Ult. That is usually a kill. If you're feeling particularly manly, you can initiate with that combo as well. You'll die, of course but not before doing a lot of damage and catching their entire team off guard.
7) It is also perfectly reasonable to use your ult against single targets. If you're flanking someone, use your combo on them. If they stun you, that is one less stun your teammates have to deal with. If they don't, they'll move at a snail's pace through big damage.
8) You have Blink and BKB. Although I have to ask, if you can farm those two items and get wards/dust/courier, why are you reading my advice?
Yeah, it was the back swing that I was pointing out, something you really want to cancel.
Be hidden. It's got a huge AOE, so if you're behind a tree or some shit it can do big damage. That's a basic tip. It's also got a pretty xbox huge slow attached to it, so you can stop sonics from fuckin your team.
Backswing is before the cast frame. you don't cancel that shit. Here, I made you a chart
[------------BACKSWING------------][CAST POINT][-----------FOLLOW-THROUGH-----------]
The more you know.
Right I forgot to mention this. People are slowed in an AoE of 630 centered on you, regardless of whether they get hit by a mini explosion or not.
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salt gaf is worst gaf.
if everyone stopped being so bad, everyone wouldn't need to be so salty, amirite?
that's the line i take.
get good kid, you're garbage.
everyone remembers how bad your aluna and myrm were, I can only imagine how bad you are in dota 2.
1v1 me right now sonnnnn
Still can't work out how to build Sven. I keep building him with a vlads, urn, BKB but I feel I should be utilizing him better. :/
sorry man, I can't beat down a sick old dude. it's against my moral code.
TyrantGuardian
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Doing it wrong. Just get STR items on him. If there's no STR on it, don't buy it.
Drop vlads, get new strength item post BKB poss blink?
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I'll just sit in storage with the immigrants, you guys can stay in first class and go down with the titanic
Yeah that's what I tend to just do. I usually skip the ult at level6. It seems to be more of a defending skill because the times when I did use it, are like you mentioned, I was in the bushes or I'm behind the T3 towers so it can just hit them abit.
IIRC, wasn't her ult a AOE point skill instead of it being around her before? I used to play back in 2003-ish and during my first game as CM in dota2 I pressed R and went wtf? because it casted around me
I have no experience with DOTA pre 6.1x so I can't say!
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The_Player
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-36 outside, time to play CM.
That's fucking crazy. Even when stacking the giants, I got my Satanic 30 minutes into the game.
I did go for Helm of the Dominator, Power Treads, and BKB before Satanic if that matters
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VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Haly and Kapura banned? What happened? Did inhouse rage bleed over into the forums?
Also, does anyone have tips for landing Shadowfiend raze combo? Usually I can only land 2 at most if I am lucky and not in succession.
I've seen Shadowfiend's combo 2-3 razes into each other, just wondering if anyone has an idea of how I could do that consistently.
Also, does anyone have tips for landing Shadowfiend raze combo? Usually I can only land 2 at most if I am lucky and not in succession.
I've seen Shadowfiend's combo 2-3 razes into each other, just wondering if anyone has an idea of how I could do that consistently.
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who says you can't win with a team of melee agi carries
anything goes in noob town man
You're like level 6 and have no points in Shallow Grave and took your Ult early, and you're complaining about the level of pubs?
I had no idea I was supposed to do that. What I'm complaining about is the fact that he rushed in without a word like that, and then trys to tell me everything I did wrong.....in Russian.
I was trying to talk to him the whole game. Also someone told me once I should be stacking on Poison Touch as Dazzle.......
That's the opposite of what people always tell me as Dazzle. :/
1-1-max passive baby sit laning
max-1-1 kill lane
Have you tried reading his skills?
Shallow Grave, no matter how close to death, cannot die while under its protection.
Duration: 5 seconds at any level
Just think how powerful this is.
Yeah, so my thinking on that was "Well there won't be many teamfights of 5-man ganks yet so I won't need it quite yet when I could be using my heal due to harass and poison touch to slow down a straggler."
Don't need 5 men to kill 1 low HP melee hero when you have no stun.
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