NFL 2011 Conference Championship |OT| Mission Impossible? It Takes a Cruz!

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I'm especially amused that A) They list the game being in San Fransisco as some sort of advantage for the Giants and B) They bring up the Giants' D-line ability to pressure Alex Smith, but no mention of the reverse? The 49ers made Drew Brees beatable, why exactly can they not do it to Eli too?

I mean, I won't be thrilled to see San Fran in the Super Bowl, but if forced to make a pick I would have to take them in this matchup, though it'll be close. I just have the sinking feeling that they'll continue to play up and I think the emotion card is probably more even than that article gives credit for.

The Packers defensive line, as Joe Buck repeatedly stated, gave Eli no pressure at all, so that gives people the false knowledge that the Giants O-line is impenetrable.
 
Aaron Rodgers looks kinda like Tony Romo in that avatar. So it makes complete sense.

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The Packers defensive line, as Joe Buck repeatedly stated, gave Eli no pressure at all, so that gives people the false knowledge that the Giants O-line is impenetrable.

nope!

giants have:
1. elite qb, top 5
2. pressure D
3. hottest team in the league
4. great playmakers on offense

niners can't compete with that. it was a good run boys, but like everyone else says we had to depend on 5 turnovers to win in the last seconds :(

guess we'll just have to look forward to FA and the draft
 
Hey here's a fan of the Steelers.

He bashes other fans for things like poor officiating and a quarterback that appears in questionable magazines.

Here's what his team does:

Wins a SB by paying off the refs
Starts a rapist and a head case at quarterback
Has an ownership that's racist and only gets rid of cancers that are non-white
Fielded the most annoying running back in the last 20 years in Jerome Bettis, who's claim to fame was rushing the ball three yards up the middle, getting up and strutting like guy who just banged Jessica Alba before she got pregnant.

GAF, you also can't have it both ways. If you're bitching at the Pats/Brady for changing the rules regarding hitting quarterbacks you can't BLAME them when the fucking Colts do the same thing years earlier. It's fucking retarded.

Go ahead hate the Pats. I know I would if I didn't grow up being a fan. But shut up about the stupid calls they've gotten over the years. Steelers, Packers, Giants, you name the team a big call has gone their way.

I don't think I mentioned officiating. I mentioned that Brady is one of the reasons why this league has gone from being a "jacked up" league to a "c'mon, man" league. It's a kinder, gentler football. Manning probably has something to do with it, too, I'll admit. But most of the finger-pointing goes to Brady. Someone touches his helmet and he's pleading with the ref for a flag.

The tuck rule wasn't officiating. It's such bad officiating that they decided to immortalize into a stupid rule. It also won you a playoff game. The snowblower was kinda funny but you gotta admit that that was bullshit cheating to clear the space for the kicker.

The racist thing is funny, considering the Rooney Rule was created to ensure minorities get considered for head coaching positions and considering Tomlin in our HC.

But hey, here's a Pats fan, hating the Steelers. Go figure. That's why it's called fandom, folks. We love our teams and hate our rivals.
 
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The Packers defensive line, as Joe Buck repeatedly stated, gave Eli no pressure at all, so that gives people the false knowledge that the Giants O-line is impenetrable.
Only those that didn't bother to watch a single Giants game in the regular season. Or the Atlanta game in the first quarter or so for that matter. Giants fans (at least the ones here) won't be selling that nonsense. That line though, played a pretty solid game against the Niners the first time around so that gives me some hope. Though the Niners have improved up front and in getting pressure so I continue to struggle in paying the first game much attention. The two teams are just very different from the first time they played in week 10.

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nope!

giants have:
1. elite qb, top 5
2. pressure D
3. hottest team in the league
4. great playmakers on offense
Well, none of that is untrue but the Niners have one of the top defenses in the league, good offensive balance with a great running game, amazing special teams play and are playing the game in their house with a ton of emotion coming in. I laugh at anyone making big proclamations about any team dominating. I think you mentioned it earlier, but I don't think either team could have asked for a better match-up.
 
nope!

giants have:
1. elite qb, top 5
2. pressure D
3. hottest team in the league
4. great playmakers on offense

niners can't compete with that. it was a good run boys, but like everyone else says we had to depend on 5 turnovers to win in the last seconds :(

guess we'll just have to look forward to FA and the draft

Hopefully Harbaugh has some dirt on Irsay from his Colts days that he can use to trade up for Luck.
 
2007 was the worst year for flagging pass interference penalties on record. You couldn't touch Randy Moss without getting flagged.

Couldn't touch Brady either without getting flagged

It was such a joke the Pats went 16-0 that year. They got bailed out every week. It was embarassing.

2009 Revis was allowed to mug anyone and it wasn't called.

In 2007 Pass interference calls involving the Patriots:

Defensive
Against: 5
For: 7

Offensive
Against: 5 (Cost them two touchdowns)
For: 1

Not surprising you don't know what you're talking about.
 
In 2007 Pass interference calls involving the Patriots:

Defensive
Against: 5
For: 7

Offensive
Against: 5 (Cost them two touchdowns)
For: 1

Not surprising you don't know what you're talking about.

Where'd you pull those from? I've been looking for a database on penalties to mess around with.
 
I don't think I mentioned officiating. I mentioned that Brady is one of the reasons why this league has gone from being a "jacked up" league to a "c'mon, man" league. It's a kinder, gentler football. Manning probably has something to do with it, too, I'll admit. But most of the finger-pointing goes to Brady. Someone touches his helmet and he's pleading with the ref for a flag.

The tuck rule wasn't officiating. It's such bad officiating that they decided to immortalize into a stupid rule. It also won you a playoff game. The snowblower was kinda funny but you gotta admit that that was bullshit cheating to clear the space for the kicker.

The racist thing is funny, considering the Rooney Rule was created to ensure minorities get considered for head coaching positions and considering Tomlin in our HC.

But hey, here's a Pats fan, hating the Steelers. Go figure. That's why it's called fandom, folks. We love our teams and hate our rivals.

So I guess you don't count the Steelers Seahawks SB.
 
Where'd you pull those from? I've been looking for a database on penalties to mess around with.

I went through the regular season play by play for the Pats. nfl.com is the only one that actually lists every penalty.

I don't know if one of those more sabremetric type football sites has something to search with.
 
Well, guess the 49ers are frauds. Sorry FMT, you've been had. You are sooooo lucky injuries exist in football. Otherwise the 49ers would be out of the playoffs!

Just pointing out that the 49ers got fortunate with the Thomas injury. If Vernon Davis got hurt in the first quarter, I would have said the Saints got fortunate. Key players don't usually leave the game after the first drive, so that was a lucky break for the 49ers.
 
I don't like the media puffing up the Giants, already calling the next game in their favor. G-Men work at their best as underdogs. Oh lawd.
 
Are you fucking kidding me? This used to be FOOTBALL. We used to watch people get fucking nailed crossing the middle. We cheered when QBs took got mauled like they were prey and the D was wild animals. This was a game of violence and bone-crunching physical domination. We revelled in the weekly "you got jacked up!" segment. We youtube'd hits over and over and over again and laughed with our friends when some dude was laid out on the field and obviously cold-cocked.

FOOOOOOOOOOTBAAAAAAAAALLLLLL!!!!!!

And then your fucking douchebag QB got a hangnail and whined to his owner who gave Goodell a handjob and pussified the league.

So yeah, the Pats are the reason we cheer for football, not FOOOOOOTBAAAAAALLL any longer. And we hate them for it. FOR-FUCKING-EVER.

Edit: P.S. As noted by esteemed-GAF, the tuck rule also sucks. And let's not forget the snowblower coming out on the field during a TO and clearing a path for the kicker. I think that was another Cheatriot game. Fucking fucks.
hahaha glad i didn't miss this. you can almost hate mo lewis for crushing bledsoe's innards while you're at it but how was he to know what horror was about to be unleashed on us all?
 
No doubt about it, we got the benefit of some bs calls in that SB. I'm not denying it. I don't remember a tuck episode though.

Are you owning up to the Pats getting some major bullshit to win them some key games?

You want to argue that the Tuck Rule is stupid, then yeah I'll agree and say yeah it's fucking stupid. It was in the rules and called earlier in the same season though. I don't think it's equatable to the Pittsburgh Super Bowl.

You want to mention Spygate? By all means, it's something that can't be contradicted or anything. It is what it is. The Patriots got punished for it.

The Patriots didn't change the NFL, Roger Goodell and the proliferation of the passing game changed the NFL. It wasn't any one team or one player. It was Peyton Manning and Drew Brees and Tom Brady, etc, etc. I know we just fuck around on here and being unfair to each other is what we do. Just pointing out the ridiculousness.
 
In 2007 Pass interference calls involving the Patriots:

Defensive
Against: 5
For: 7

Offensive
Against: 5 (Cost them two touchdowns)
For: 1

Not surprising you don't know what you're talking about.

Yes, because that's how you should be measuring how weak the calls were for the Pats, by volume of pass interference calls.

Oh wait, you're the guy that claims the Pats "beat themselves" last year against the Jets. Lol @ taking you seriously.
 
The tuck rule was always in the rule book it was just the way it was called in that particular instance.

He had both hands on the fucking ball.
 
2007 was the worst year for flagging pass interference penalties on record. You couldn't touch Randy Moss without getting flagged.

Couldn't touch Brady either without getting flagged

It was such a joke the Pats went 16-0 that year. They got bailed out every week. It was embarassing.

2009 Revis was allowed to mug anyone and it wasn't called.

Yes, because that's how you should be measuring how weak the calls were for the Pats, by volume of pass interference calls.

You claimed that you couldn't touch Randy Moss without getting flagged for it. When you get flagged for it, it would show up as a penalty. Why are you changing your argument?

Oh wait, you're the guy that claims the Pats "beat themselves" last year against the Jets. Lol @ taking you seriously.

Changing the subject won't change the fact you're just plain wrong.

The tuck rule was always in the rule book it was just the way it was called in that particular instance.

He had both hands on the fucking ball.

And Walt Coleman has never officiated a Raiders game since then :jnc
 
A lot of people's hate for the Pats comes from their own intolerance and bigotry. They just can't stand the idea of a transgendered person having so much success in a sport they consider "tough" and "manly". I personally have no such hang-ups, you go girl!
 
You claimed that you couldn't touch Randy Moss without getting flagged for it. When you get flagged for it, it would show up as a penalty. Why are you changing your argument?

I'm not. Laying a finger on Moss meant getting flagged, therefore..

Look, it's cute that you want to think the Pats didn't get any help from the league that year. But if you want to think they didn't I'm all for it.

I watched all the Pats games that year. There were no "let them play" exceptions. Although, to be fair, this was symptomatic all around the league; and the Pats were the biggest beneficiaries.
 
I'm not. Laying a finger on Moss meant getting flagged, therefore..

Look, it's cute that you want to think the Pats didn't get any help from the league that year. But if you want to think they didn't I'm all for it.

I watched all the Pats games that year. There were no "let them play" exceptions. Although, to be fair, this was symptomatic all around the league; and the Pats were the biggest beneficiaries.

You know what's cute? A fan of a team that has no SB berths and 2 division championships since 1969 attempting to troll the Pats. The jokes on you no matter what.
 
I've been trying to trash talk the Packers in this thread and the previous one quite a bit but the fans here have shown nothing but complete humility and class. Bravo!

I have a feeling I won't have the same response from Pats fans :)
 
What's cuter is the amount of cognitive dissonance a fan of a team with 3 tainted Super Bowl wins must go through to tell themselves they weren't cheaters.

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Did Roman Harper get injured on that last play against VD?

It seemed like he was either really hurt or just embarrassed.

Also, how was Bushrod not called for a hold on that play?
 
So I guess you don't count the Steelers Seahawks SB.

Dude, the Seahawks couldn't stop Willie Parker running for near 70 yards or that Randel El pass. Not to mention that they came back from being the #6 seed that year because Tommy Maddox had to sub for an injured Ben Rothlesburger!

Why is it that people cannot just accept the fact that there have been years where the Steelers were just, well, GOOD? Whenever they win, it's because they "paid someone off" or "Ben raped someone else to get the win"! And they cheer any loss as just the best thing ever!

Rooting against them because of gamesmanship is one thing! But I cannot understand why the Steelers are hated so much that people need to flamebait their fans and wish for their deaths all the time! I know sports fans can get out of control sometimes, but I'm surprised that there haven't been riots over Steelers wins yet the way people hate them for no reason!
 
Dude, the Seahawks couldn't stop Willie Parker running for near 70 yards or that Randel El pass. Not to mention that they came back from being the #6 seed that year because Tommy Maddox had to sub for an injured Ben Rothlesburger!

Why is it that people cannot just accept the fact that there have been years where the Steelers were just, well, GOOD? Whenever they win, it's because they "paid someone off" or "Ben raped someone else to get the win"! And they cheer any loss as just the best thing ever!

Rooting against them because of gamesmanship is one thing! But I cannot understand why the Steelers are hated so much that people need to flamebait their fans and wish for their deaths all the time! I know sports fans can get out of control sometimes, but I'm surprised that there haven't been riots over Steelers wins yet the way people hate them for no reason!

Holy shit, someone who thinks the refs didn't give that SB to the steelers.
 
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