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N G Evangelion: I expected more
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Not the one you've suggested, no. But I feel my reservations are still valid. I have yet to find one like them where it hold my attention. So many times I just lose interest if they're is nothing happening story wise. Yes, I get that you usually use the first episode to establish characters and setting, but it's usually people just talking to each other and act rather ridiculous for little reason. I don't find that good for watching.
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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I really don't want to get into a discussion of what moe is or isn't after witnessing the disintegration of this thread for the last page :l feel free to pm me if you want to educate me however.
Well, you can watch episode 1 of Hanasaku Iroha for free if you want to give it a shot. Or not, it's up to you. But there's definitely a variety of shows with appeal to the "moe" crowd and some of them are better than others.
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It's decent, I'll give you that. But it just hasn't hooked me.
Trent Strong
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Just don't watch K-On. It's one of the worst things ever created.
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Yes, I do. I'm also one of those gamers that value story and gameplay over graphics. So shoot me.
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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Have you seen Steins;Gate? I consider myself to be pretty jaded as far as anime goes, having burned out on it maybe 8 years ago or so, but that was a recent series that I really enjoyed.
This is the equivalent of being like, "Wow, movies are really bad, what's the most popular movie out there for me to see if movies are good? Avatar? Hey I watched that and I didn't enjoy it at all. I guess movies do suck."
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Implying popularity is a genre.
Nope. I'll add it to my list of "to try."
moe is not a catch all term for characters you dislike.
What the hell is with all the K-On hate? Get this right, guys. K-On as an anime property has made over 50 billion yen in merchandising. The otaku "waifu" crowd cannot possibly support something as big as that so it stands to reason that it has mainstream appeal. Reducing it to something only creepy otaku buy is factually wrong.
And to the topic, Eva has obviously made way waaay more.
And to the topic, Eva has obviously made way waaay more.
That too. It appeals to males and females of various ages and even airs on Disney Channel Japan.
Then again people like Mortrialus and friends probably get their news of the anime world from sankaku and 4chan, so it's not like they're too concerned with facts anyways.
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I never said it didn't, I just enjoy a little more action then what K-ON and the like have to give. Again, it's like my music. I'm very open, but I guess what I enjoy the most is metal, especially prog-metal and post-metal. Not everyone likes it, I know that. But I have my reasons for it. Same reasons why I try to avoid shows like K-ON. If that makes sense.
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean beyond underlining an affinity to 4chan and your disinterest in approaching this with any intent to budge from your viewpoint, in spite of the fact you keep trying to peddle this image of yourself as an "open" person.
I'm trying to say that sampling the most popular thing a genre has to offer isn't a great measure of its worth. Do you think that people who actually like dubstep listen to Skrillex? There's a lot of variety in the anime that came out last year. To sum up all recent anime as this:
You are pretty much casting uninformed aspersions on a subject you don't have a lot of familiarity with. It is not even remotely reflective of what most people considered their top shows this year, or really the releases of the year in general. We could go into how much old anime there is that is "school life shows with "cute" female casts", but this isn't really the place for it, and I don't exactly feel like it is a discussion that would result in anything.FelixOrion said:
My post was not directed towards you.
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I said I'd check out some of them. I'm not putting them all off. I have certain things I like and there are certain things I don't enjoy. Maybe I'm exaggerating to hyperbole a little bit, and I apologize if I've stepped on some feet. But I can't be expect to know and try every single show. I try the most popular one because, if anything, they are popular of a reason. I'm not saying that the less popular things are not as good. I know that for a fact. but, I've had my disinterest with a lot of shows that are similar in my eyes, and I'm just saying I'd rather not watch shows like that and entertain myself with shows I *think* I might enjoy. Maybe I'm just a casual watcher, sure. I am. But if I want to get a feel of a certain genre, why wouldn't I watch the most popular thing first and see if I like it or not? If I find a popular one that is good imo, then I will start to dig deeper to find less popular ones that I have a higher chance in liking.
Sorry. My apologizes.
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yeah that show. It's a'ight.
Crash Station
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FelixOrion, watch Tiger & Bunny. It has mainstream appeal and stars people in their mid 20s-30s. No school girls (well one, but she's the main character's daughter).
Nah, I don't either. Let's just say it's a really broad term that doesn't exactly have an agreed on definition. Cute, something you want to protect, etc. Could be those and much more, but not necessarily something that implies depth or lack of it.
Nah, I don't either. Let's just say it's a really broad term that doesn't exactly have an agreed on definition. Cute, something you want to protect, etc. Could be those and much more, but not necessarily something that implies depth or lack of it.
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If I had seen that name come up on a list, I would've just passed over it. The name makes it honestly sounds like it'd be a "Panty & Stocking" spin-off. Oh god...
But, it looks possibly appealing. Thanks.
Crash Station
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Yeah, don't judge it by the name. Probably one of the most non-indicative titles I have seen. Would be like naming some brutal WWII movie "Happy Friend Sunshine!"
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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Aye, I said I wouldn't do this but I guess it can't be helped. To be fair, I never stated that I disliked moe characters. (I really enjoyed Kannagi for instance) I find the supposed definition for moe to be extremely vague, and it's especially problematic when there are conflicts as to what it embodies and even its etymology on wiki. For all I know, I could apply the same characteristics to any of the children from Peanuts and call them moe. I feel like it has more to do with how a viewer feels towards the characters than any sort of defining traits they may possess, as those requisites/guidelines are as mentioned, vague at best. (I mean, a height of 5.7 heads tall? What?) Anyway, to be more specific on where I stand, I honestly don't have anything against moe characters so long as that isn't their sole defining trait (as is the case with so called "moe-blob" characters) or they aren't prominent enough in the show to the point of being an annoying pandering distraction (A character such as Mikuru on Haruhi is often just a background character for a running gag for instance). With that said, I am not outright condemning moe characters as long as there are other facets to their character.
Anyway, how bout that Evangelion huh? lol
I would totally watch an Evangelion reboot where Shinji kicks ass, takes names and gets girls. Just make him a likable protagonist. That's all the series needed. I went in hoping for robots battling supernatural beings with Judeo-Christian imagery. I didn't need a series where the show creator rehashes his psychological problems that resulted from never getting a date in high school. There are therapists who get paid to deal with those issues.
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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Well, he arguably takes a stand for himself in Rebuild, which is quite a bit different than how he was in the TV series, so who knows where things will go 3.0 forward
Actually they were psychological problems he developed from directing Nadia. lol
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Okay, who posted this in /m/? 
Demon Lizardman
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Which is why the entire island arc of that show sucked, the ending was good though. I would recommend that series to anyone. Just watched the ending today, now recommend me another of Anno's works.
The island arc sucked because he didn't direct it, it was some random Gainax dude. He hated working on it because of how little control he had. That's why he refused to do the island episodes iirc, he didn't want to drag out the show too long but the people funding it wanted more episodes or something. Don't quote me on that though.
Watch Gunbuster.
Well, this [your reading of /m/] explains your posts.Okay, who posted this in /m/?
"hey guys i watched these totally old ass shows like ideon and zambot 3 (holy shit yeah i watched them arent i cool and hardcore) that gainucks RIPPED OFF for eva and gurren lagoon because /m/ told me so therefore gainucks totally suxxxxx" = your posts
Demon Lizardman
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Already watch Gunbuster, try another one. I actually thought Gunbuster was alright, but it had its moments and the characters were likeable enough.
lunarworks
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Gurren Lagann, basically.
Re: Cutie Honey is alrightish.
Demon Lizardman
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Didn't enjoy it that much, watched it years ago, doubt I would enjoy it again. Give me another suggestion. I also love how the female protagonists are always 14 year olds.
Well, seeing how Rebuild 2.0 ended...
lunarworks
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I saw the first several episodes of that. It was amazing. The direction was brilliant. I heard it fell apart towards the end, though.
Regulus Tera
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This thread certainly took a turn... for the interesting!
lunarworks
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FTFY.
Regulus Tera
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AnimeGAF is too passionate to be contained in the seasonal threads.
AnimeGAF is spreading. Like a cancer.
Demon Lizardman
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Those don't seem interesting enough, nvm then but thanks anyway. Too be honest, I haven't gotten into anime for years now, but one of my friends shown me Evagalion and then I started liking it because it was different.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I thought it was a funny thread, then again it's /m/ and no one agrees there.
And I only brought it up whenever people brought those shows up. But I never said anything about Ideon, never watched it. I just thought it's a hassle unit in SRWA3
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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You know what? I concur.
Grab the Platinum boxset as it has the best image quality currently available. And I find it difficult to believe that EoE is difficult to find, it was licensed by Manga and printed to infinity, can't see how there could possibly be a deficiency on the market given how profoundly popular the series is.
Jim E. Rossler
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Moe is a feel
Do you know that feel?
I know that feel, bro
Do you know that feel?
I know that feel, bro
Yupp; Platinum it is.
On EoE, I might be misinformed. Right now, I'm going off this in particular:
http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B000068OJ1/
Only available through a couple sellers..very expensive as well.
I'm not sure if there's another re-release of it, but Amazon, Best Buy, etc don't seem to have it.
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