Maybe the manga, but K-ON! TV is very tame compared to other shows that specifically cater to merchandise-frenzy otaku buyers. First season alone I can think of only one instance in which they try to sexualise the girls in a cynical way, and even then it is censored and played for the lulz.
I like Asuka the best and I'm single
Misato's whole point is that she hasn't matured in any way beyond sexually. Also, Rei and Asuka are like 14 or 15 (and the less that can be said about Rei's characterisation the better).
Watching the show I never got the impression that KyoAni was consciously trying to deify the girls' innocence or, as you put it, worship their virginity. That some people can and will jerk off by those aspects of the cast is a sad byproduct of anime fandom. The show by itself has very little that could be consider actual fetishism of innocence and focuses more on the friendship within the group -it's actually pretty sincere about that.
Evangelion seems to have been getting a lot of hate recently, but it still is one of my favorite shows. Was one of the first anime series I watched after a friend loaned it to me at college. Ended up watching the last episode off a projector in a classroom one night.
That's now how you spell Class Rep.
This isn't so much about the fans themselves, but more the fact that the show gives me the impression it was built for no other purpose other than pandering to them and selling as much merchandise as possible.
Nah, I don't have the kneejerk reaction to high schoolers a lot of others have.
It definitely isn't about characters that "evoke a desire to protect" either.
I don't. The overwhelming majority of moe fans do.
That might be a good lampooning if you could find anyone calling any old people moe.
Are you still keeping this armchair psychologist shit running? rofl
Wrong. You can argue it's a byproduct of moe, but you're overemphasizing it as a trait of moe when it isn't.
Protectiveness is a form of adoration from moe, but it isn't the main definition. Even TVTropes didn't get this wrong like you have.
A flawed generalization based on anecdotal evidence and selectively assuming specific vocal groups' opinions as true is a terrible conclusion. It's no wonder you think there's an overlap.
Then by all means, please provide the real definition. This is simply the one I have always been told ad nauseum. Seriously, why make a post stating I'm wrong if you aren't even going to try to correct me? What was the point?
Uh, okay. And what does this have to do with anything?
I specifically said TVTropes and we've had this discussion before. I'm actually surprised you haven't changed since then and still close to your ignorant views on moe.
Okay. So an extremely small yet vocal subset of people do it, but what does this have to do with anyone else? Quit embarrassing yourself and just drop it, lol.
Another flawed generalization. You're assuming all moe fans have waifus and care about that.
So you won't stop posting even when you know you're wrong, given what you just said? Is this an admission to trolling?
What a stupid statement. You said I'm wrong. You've failed to back up that claim.
That K-ON and its fans are awful is hardly shaky evidence.
Is this seriously your evidence? "Some vocal losers on 2chan get real mad when their waifus get boyfriends (sankaku told me so) and umm... k-on fans are awful. Therefore moe is fetishization"
Your very conclusion to what the main definition of moe is is flimsy as it's based on being ignorantly selective with your anecdotal evidence to form a definition through confirmation bias. You thinking moe = waifu potential is an example of this as it's against the prevalent definition of moe, and your necessity to quote a small subset of group's actions to substantiate your claim like they are representative of the entire group in question is plain ignorance. Is there really a need to say any more than that when it's you who's refusing to acknowledge the flimsiness of your accusations for it to proceed from there?
That's now how you spell Class Rep.
Why ? It's a good theory, especially when you look at how in Episode 19, Asuka's battle against Zeruel, the angel forced Asuka to relive all of her childhood trauma's. And Rei a being very close to the Angel's having come from Lilith herself, is also confronted in her mind by the angels, forced to wallow in her loneliness and despair. More specifically in episode 23, when the Angel Armisael enters rei via bio-fusion, it forced Rei (Rei 2 at the time) to feel and examine "the truth of her heart" which was stated to be nothing more then loneliness and sorrow. Shortly after, for the first time in any of her reincarnations, Rei sheds tears.
Ugh, people are so quick to look at some of the theory's provided by fans of NGE and dismiss them without doing any research. The anime is deep and good. Now while "good" is debatable for some I shall not sit by while mindless drones some of you, try to pick away at NGE without knowing anything about it, because for some reason you either didn't "get it" or couldn't be bothered to do some research.
Actually I probably will sit by, I grow tired of defending my likes and interests. I got a giant backlog to go through and crap. GAF, you make me depressed, for I find myself playing less and less games and instead wasting away my opinions and then defending them from the ravenous wolves you are. (This is exactly why despite my massive interest in anime I never post in the anime OT's)
Bleh. I'm done. I have shared my opinion, I have defended my opinion, and I have provided information and a gateway to further information. I leave in peace.
~Temporary Account Suicide.~
Those are all legitimate reactions to moe, and K-On has many examples of this in fact. For someone who claims K-On is about virgin worship and a waifu generator, you've really missed what moe essentially is for someone who's so condemned on it.
As I said, it's highly ignorant to assume all moe fans have waifus and would be bothered by this. The fact you haven't refuted this after plenty of time has passed means you believe this ignorance of yours when correlation doesn't mean causation. Moe isn't about waifu potential. Waifus can be moe, yes.
I dont think thats true for most people. There are a vocal few who have the whole "waifu" obsession, but most fans dont. they have favorite characters, and may joke about it (myself included) but they don't take it seriously.
There's much more to it than that. It's about overcoming depression and changing your worldview. It's about loneliness and the worth of human interaction.
Okay lets say you're right. Let's say I concede, everything I said about moe is wrong. What does that mean? Fuck all. I still hate K-ON, I still hate all the companies that have over-saturated the market with year after year of moe shows, and still hate everyone involved with the companies, and I still hate the fans for creating an environment where only moe shows do really well and thus mostly those shows get made. There is a reason why I don't post in the anime thread. Every time I look through a new one, season after season, year after year, there is literally nothing I like getting being made. It isn't fun being a fan of anime and stuck with no anime to be a fan of that wasn't made more than five years ago.
