BronzeWolf
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Anniversaries AT THE SAME FUCKING HOUR THAN THE SUPERBOWL don't triumph a marriage.
They could have had brunch
Why I'm Making My Husband Miss The Super Bowl
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Anniversaries AT THE SAME FUCKING HOUR THAN THE SUPERBOWL don't triumph a marriage.
They could have had brunch
The_Hitcher89
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Its the step up from MediocreBowl, the winner goes into the AwesomeBowl. Not even the AwesomeBowl's as good as the Intertoto Cup though
Absolutely. In some cases I feel we can reasonably assume a few basic axioms (human life is worthwhile; happiness is good), but I'm perfectly happy removing those axioms if you wish.
If something accomplishes a goal whether you happen to want it to or not, then it has objective meaning. If Football could, for example, entertain me even if I did not like it, then it would have objective entertainment value that supersedes any personal preferences.
It's not necessarily bad (I don't like to use words like that because it implies objectivety
). I said it was depressing because then you're faced with the reality that the vast majority of people that have ever lived have contributed nothing to society. Regardless, I share that view sometimes, and hold the opinion that the world would be a better society by most quantitative metrics if every single person was committed to empirical science. I fear, however, that there will be repercussions of living in a society without sport or art.I don't want to imply that your diction is off, but that sounds more to me like objective truth rather than objective meaning. The connotation of "meaning" seems inherently subjective in nature since it relies on a conscious being to interpret the meaning.
This is what I think most people are having trouble with. You are asserting that science is the only thing that has objective meaning, but most people find football far more meaningful in their lives than the more complex laws of quantum mechanics.
And I wouldn't necessarily say sport and art have no visible evidence of meaning. I mean, watching football could certainly create a certain stimulus that fires certain neurons a specific way, which could lead to real, observable results. This pathway may be identical to other stimuli but I am severely disappointed in our knowledge of neuroscience that I believe any evidence for such a pathway would take decades to uncover.
brucewaynegretzky
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Btw, ITT NHL-Gaf proves itself to be the philosophers of Sports-Gaf. Come at me NBA/NFL/MLB bros!
And it's perfectly fine for you to enjoy that. But the person I was quoting sounded like they were saying something is wrong with you if you can't enjoy that kind of party.
Exactly. Although I would suggest there are a few things that are meaningful to almost everyone.
QFT if my wife was a fashion blogger/photographer I wouldn't want to get married during New York's fashion week that would be just as big of an dumbass choice.
Most foodies would agree that a dinner is a better culinary event than a brunch. Anniversary dinners are the traditional way of celebrating an anniversary, like watching the superbowl live is the traditional way of enjoying the superbowl. You seem to be implying that his love of football is more important that her (and, as he agreed to it, his) wish for an anniversary dinner.
Randolph Freelander
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OK, I'll pay attention once it gets to that interfrodo thing.
Herpes Reasons
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no one specific. your tone in this thread is offensive to those that hold value and meaning in sports. Whether you can argue with empirical evidence to marginalize the value that people hold with their sports is beside to point.
The_Hitcher89
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brucewaynegretzky
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Right, but it DOES improve physical well being. The question is does viewing something that is inherently meaningful (playing sports) give it some tangential meaning?
This is the obvious difference from your woodworking example.
Diprosalic
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i truly believe that. i see absolutely no value in celebrating anniversaries or birthdays. you can celebrate them any day you want. superbowl is on 1 day in the year and is probably great fun to watch with friends. sure you can tape it but convincing all of your friends to not only not watch it but somehow manage to not be aware of the final score is nothing short of impossible.
i would never miss the world cup finals for anything as silly as birthdays or anniversaries.
The_Hitcher89
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Pure nihilists prevent anyting from being objectively meaningful surely?
Oh you quoted me fast. Was thinking about my grandpa and my uncle at the same time. But my opinion is the same. Its just a game.
How so? Everything he's said about sports applies to video games (which he stated). I haven't noticed anyone being upset about his thoughts on video games and if he's insulting sports fans, he's also insulting people who enjoy video games.
BronzeWolf
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Have dinner on Saturday
Mammoth Jones
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This. Your relationship with your spouse should take priority over a bunch of millionaires throwing a ball around for an hour.
Anniversary are usually held with dinners because then that leads to a 'romantic' night of sex
Having brunch isn't going to put her in the mood
Randolph Freelander
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Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Not on an actual date but it's been the first weekend in february for a while now. Unless it's like Feb 1 is the first weekend or something then it's pushed to the second week sometimes.
So play and competition have meaning right? They accomplish specific goals in the animal kingdom.
An anniversary is a celebration of a specific date. Almost by definition it can only be on one day!
The_Hitcher89
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Cheers, so its like the schedule for football cup-finals
BronzeWolf
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Then go have dinner on Saturday.
and the anniversary is just a date
Not really. I could have dinner today and say it's celebrating Christmas early. Just by saying it, I just made it a Christmas celebration
brucewaynegretzky
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He's agreed that playing sports is meaningful... multiple times. People need to realize that.
I think Opiate is wrong, but I think it's because he's ignoring important social constructs, which he seems to place no value on for some reason despite valuing things like a caring relationship.
Your spouses career should also take precedence over "not wanting to look sweaty in a wedding dress", as if March/December/November would mean she would be a sweaty mess (unless she is morbidly obese which odds are she doesn't even care about herself let alone her relationship).
My gf and me celebrated xmas and both of our birthdays 3-4 days away from the actual date each time just to make things more convenient for each other. The fact she gave me my birthday present on the 29th instead of 26th doesn't mean shit.
Diprosalic
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does it mean any more or less to you if you celebrate it a day before or after?
dream
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Yeah, but the thread title is luring in sports fans. If this thread resided on the gaming side with a gaming-related subject, I would imagine that gamers who have found significant meaning in games would be just as outraged.
Couldn't he watch a recording of the game on Monday?
No it is more a celebration of the whole year, or period of time since a certain event.
A wedding anniversary isnt commemorating the wedding itself. It is commemorating the marriage and the length of time the couple has spent together as a married couple.. That does not have to happen on a certain date. The fact that anniversaries are annual is arbitrary, an amount of time chosen to be fairly reasonable and easy to remember for going out of your way to celebrate your lives together. It could be done monthly, yearly, every 500 days, whatever.
Fantastic. But, here's the thing:
Both of them, the husband and wife, obviously think anniversaries are important. So what is the problem?
Part of having friends and loved ones is sometimes showing you're willing to make sacrifices for them. Many cultures have beliefs that go along the lines of only the things most important to you are worth giving away as gifts.
She's asking for this one year he doesn't see the entirety of the superbowl live. Presumably, also for further milestone years such as 5th, 10th, 20th etc. That is what is important to her. Yet she also recognised that his team making it to the superbowl would be an event so important to him that she'd forgo the dinner.
I cannot think of a more perfect, traditional example of being willing to sacrifice for your loved ones than the anniversary dinner and the "your team wins we watch it" caveat. Both sides there willing to make a sacrifice for something important.
That would be your own personal spin on the topic and if your partner agreed to it, then great.
But a birthday is an anniversary, and there is a reason why they are celebrated on the same day ever year, when possible - it is, by definition, an exact year after the event. The definition is in the name itself.
Pollux
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The rest of us are too busy watching our sports, since our sports are actually, ya know, entertaining. Like watching Duke getting blasted by Miami. Good times.
BronzeWolf
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Couldn't they celebrate on Saturday going on Sunday's early morning?
WickedCobra03
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I see both sides of it. Personally, its weird to get so amped up about a game, especially when it isn't even your team playing. But on the flip side of the coin, I think its terrible that women try and use a football game like they are putting a treat on a dogs nose and the dog is going nuts until the trainer (woman) says eat.
brucewaynegretzky
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Not my fault the Flyers were too busy be depressingly bad. I watched. And cried.
ZombieSupaStar
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what a bitch, they'll be divorced soon.
then he can have his balls back.
then he can have his balls back.
Might as well celebrate New Years on Jan 2
and Christmas the day before
Its a special date for them 2 a game shouldn't come before it
BronzeWolf
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But the superbowl is important to him. Why is what she finds important more powerful than what he finds important?
There are plenty of workarounds. She chose none
It doesn't need to. Go on Saturday evening and stay in late enough so it's Sunday. Problem solved.
sankt-Antonio
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Ontopic:
I never put much meaning in anniversaries, so i would let my partner watch/do whatever is important to her.
To lighten up the conversation a bit:
I´m going to watch my first super-bowl with a bunch of friends tonight for the first time.
It´ll also be the first football game i ever watched
Who´s (player) name should i scream out loud when something is about to happen!? Are there any football slang-words that i could use casually?
Thx in advance.
I never put much meaning in anniversaries, so i would let my partner watch/do whatever is important to her.
To lighten up the conversation a bit:
I´m going to watch my first super-bowl with a bunch of friends tonight for the first time.
It´ll also be the first football game i ever watched
Who´s (player) name should i scream out loud when something is about to happen!? Are there any football slang-words that i could use casually?
Thx in advance.
Welp, I'm outta here.
You are right, although I have never seen an true nihilist in the wild. Only depressed university students
But yes, hence why I said 'almost'.Edit: Although some of Opiates posts have come close
Watching a game on tape is worse than watching a concert on tape.
You counter every example of entertainment that is brought up as meaningless. Therefore, it seems as though you consider entertainment meaningless. Is this correct? If yes, how do you think society would be impacted if entertainment was removed? If no, what forms of entertainment are meaningful?
Read the entire thing... it's not just a game... it's his job.
NervousXtian
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Wasn't directed at you, but you having to post kind of shows how you are trying to prove your "manhood".. no? Oh, yes, it does.
You sound like a hoot at a party, btw. Open invite next time I go out to tag along if you're in Portland.
Yeah.
Unless he's a die hard Giants or Patriots fan, he really doesn't have much to stand on. I mean...come on...it's a stupid game versus the anniversary with the (supposed) love of your life.
Remember that IU - Kentucky game earlier this year? Man, what a good game!
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