Oni Link 666
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I would have also liked a 3DS game, but this will be OK for now. I want to play this and the Nobunga game. I really wanted them to use the 3DS features like AR, SpotPass, and StreetPass though.
Pokemon Black 2 and White 2 confirmed for Nintendo DS
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Ignis Fatuus
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Hoenn.
I doubt there's anywhere near 100. Probably 10-20 at most.
Oni Link 666
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Seriously. I don't want to play some minigame while I transfer 6 Pokemon at a time again. We really need something like Pokemon Box.
What is that downside? Also I'm assuming that more people own a DS and not a 3DS, than people who own a 3DS and not a DS. Which would mean that any downside would affect fewer people this way than the other way around, right?
The downside is the game will look like shit on a 3DS.
ShironRedshift
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Not sure if they would, but it doesn't matter, as those are just the form names, ala stuff like "Giratina--Origin Forme" and "Shaymin--Sky Forme". In other words, just like Giratina and Shaymin, which still just display those as their names in battle regardless of form, the same is likely to be true of these Kyurem forms.
Wouldn't surprise me if it was like just 10 new forms or something like multiple evolutions/forms of the same Pokemon.
I just don't see them going all out with new designs when they are doing that for the 3DS GenVI game
I'm also guessing that a lot of people with a 3DS also have a DS of some form, but that's fair enough.
Oni Link 666
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Nobody said anything about a trilogy.
I think we've got something going here.
My DS Lite's L button is broken ;_;
TreasureHunterG
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Makes sense now. I doubt if NCL had majority shares they would allow a DS release over 3DS at THIS moment.
Not quite, Nintendo techincally owns 2/3 of the IP because it owns both its share and Creature's share (As Creature is a subsidary of NCL)
GameFreak 1/3
Creatures 1/3
NCL 1/3
Techincally speaking, Nintendo owns 2/3 of the IP with the remaning being owned by Game Freak. I think AceBandage can do a better job of explaining it than I can though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pokémon_Company#cite_note-0
EDIT: I needed to correct some minor business crap.
ShironRedshift
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No way this will have new Pokemon, beyond just a few new forms of old Pokemon, ala Platinum. Once these games come out, Black and White still won't be quite two years old yet. We're not going to get new Pokemon until the 6th generation of games starts, and that's certainly not now--the fact they're still using the names "Black and White", along with having Kyurem-fusions of Zekrom and Reshiram as the mascot cover Pokemon instead of actually new Pokemon adds the final nail in the coffin to that idea.
ThatObviousUser
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I thought Creatures owned a 1/3?
And how could you ever play Pokemon without an L button?
ThatObviousUser
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Black/White removed L as A. >=/
PumpkinPie
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Because it'll work on all DS consoles, that's not gong to pose the same problems as casuals trying to play 3DS games on their DS.
LOL at GameFreak for pulling this shit though, I'm waiting for the game that uses assets from 3DS Pokedex.
Yep, you're right. I do more research and came up with this:
Creatures 1/3
Nintendo 1/3
GameFreak 1/3
Pokemon Company International is a media holder. Both Pokemon Company and Creatures are subsidiaries of NCL.
I stand corrected, fucking confusing shit.
The current direction is far from the best. The presentation is archaic, the main quest is rehashed to death, the online features don't live to 1% of the potential.
Even if we say that the battling formula can't be changed for the better (which I disagree with), a new Pokemon game coming out in 2012 could definitely have the following:
- 3D overworld. The top-down tile system is cute but Final Fantasy, Zelda and Dragon Quest have grown out of it very successfully, and there is no reason why Pokemon shouldn't. If they insist on having it top down, something akin to Animal Crossing or Dragon Quest IX makes perfect sense.
- 3D battles. The overworld screen is generally aesthetically pleasing, but the battle screen has pretty much remained the same for 15 years. Sprites are nice when they are animated, and it's impossible to have a game like Pokemon with adequate animations. So they should give up on sprites and start having beautiful 3D battles like the Coliseum games
- Random online battles. Real account based online system, not friend codes (but that's more Nintendo's problem). Auction-house feature for trades. Themed battles with different rules. Tournaments and spectating battles. Customizing Pokemon with clothing/accessories and taking them online. MMO-features like going hunting for Pokemon together or shared "instance" dungeons (challenge the Battle Tower with a friend, etc).
- Pokemon Box/Pokewalker style app for 3DS or even for mobile phones.
The Pokemon games aren't even beginning to scratch the surface of their potential. Not to mention GameFreaks tendency to put features and then remove them in subsequent games, only to incorporate them once more. Yes, the games are good, but they could be amazing. I see no reason why I should be apologetic towards the way they have been handling the series since Diamond and Pearl. It can only be described as lazy, conservative and disappointing.
If you hold L and pick a move it tells you what it does. Indispensable to me in White.
This was a silly change, it'd better be a key selling point to add that back, and maybe some other button shortcut optoins.
My d-pad's loose and the power slide button works half the time :/
at least my trust DS Phat still works like the tank it is.
ThatObviousUser
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Yep, you're right. I do more research and came up with this:
Creatures 1/3
Nintendo 1/3
GameFreak 1/3
Pokemon Company International is a media holder. Both Pokemon Company and Creatures are subsidiaries of NCL.
I stand corrected, fucking confusing shit.
You're telling me.
So on the books Nintendo only owns a 1/3 but I guess since they own Creatures they end up having a majority stake? Or something.SpacePirate Ridley
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Lol at this third game of the black and white generation.
Not only they fuck it doing it for DS, they also did two different versions to be an even more apparent cash cow, not making only one that was better than the the other two and calling it grey.
Fuck off.
Will wait for the new pokemon. Lets see if the next time they can show a game that looks radically different that what they always do. And I thought that with black and white the took a step in the right direction. I hope we dont get the 6 future games with the same graphics as B&W.
Wasnt the speration of companies done for legal reasons?
Im pretty sure that even if legally they are two differnt companies now, but wioth Nintendo holding the majority of the stock, is Nintendo the one who still rules over them nd they cant never leave the company.
Not only they fuck it doing it for DS, they also did two different versions to be an even more apparent cash cow, not making only one that was better than the the other two and calling it grey.
Fuck off.
Will wait for the new pokemon. Lets see if the next time they can show a game that looks radically different that what they always do. And I thought that with black and white the took a step in the right direction. I hope we dont get the 6 future games with the same graphics as B&W.
You're telling me.
Wasnt the speration of companies done for legal reasons?
Im pretty sure that even if legally they are two differnt companies now, but wioth Nintendo holding the majority of the stock, is Nintendo the one who still rules over them nd they cant never leave the company.
I... I didn't know this. Fuck.
Black Kyurem and White Kyurem? http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/BlackWarGreymon
Wow, I never knew that. You could always just read the move descriptions from that status screen, though.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Paper Pokemon
Yeah but the L button is a lot less annoying.
You're telling me.
I think that's correct. Creatures does have a say so over the matter as they technically own a 1/3 of the IP. But regardless, NCL is majority stakeholder because they own Creatures and a 1/3 of the IP separate from the other two entities.
Really? Ugh!
ThatObviousUser
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That's probably to make sure Pokemon never goes anywhere but Nintendo systems, otherwise while 2/3 is a lot it's not like they outright own the franchise and can dictate what Game Freak does with it. Pressure them? Yes. But Game Freak's the ones at the reigns.
That sounds complicated. Pokemon politics ^_^
chickdigger802
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Only would be noticed by Gaf rank of gamers.
Remember, mast majority of people believe most console games are HD.