Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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"I should go" should be grayed out.
 
Just beat it, agree the ending was lame. THREE GAMES, I played three games for that. Was a good game but the ending... god

That being said I still think ME 2 was the better overall game.
 
It's pretty fucking obvious.
I was under the impression that, since the plan to invade through the Citadel failed in ME1, it was effectively useless to the Reapers. Hence why they left it alone during ME3, they could come and harvest people later.

And then all of a sudden they add another functionality to it and bam.
 
Surely there has to be some pc guys who can cut the entire latter half of the ending out? I feel like some scrolling text with THE REAPERS WERE WIPED OUT, SHEPARD DIED, AND PEACE REIGNS IN DA FUCKING GALAXY after that scene with Anderson and TIM would be far more conclusive. And less offensive.

I'd actually pay (a small fee) for DLC that removes the ending choices. Just end it there, Shep and Anderson die together saving the galaxy, giant doomsday device kills all reapers, everyone all happy and united, Anderson and Shep and all the others who died to save the galaxy are honoured. MUCH better than the devs seeing Deus Ex HR's ending and deciding 'button endings are cool. let's go with that'
 
The hell happened to Jack, anyway? I remember seeing a screenshot with her taking to Shepard before the game came out. In my game, though, I saw Jack for a second before I blew her the fuck up.

She's a teacher at Grissom Academy and if you go there you can rescue her and her students from Cerberus. Afterwards you then occasionally can see her at the Citadel.

Grissom Academy is actually one of my favorite parts of the game. Seeing Jack playing mother hen was pretty hilarious and somewhat fitting.
 
I finally finished it and seeing all the hate for the ending, I assumed it was all just hyperbole. Well... I was wrong, what a shitty ending.

I love that everybody thinks, oh it's just the haters and the fanboys it can't be that bad. I am all grown up and I can deal with it.

I am in the acceptance phase now. Pulled it out of the Xbox, put it next to the other Mass Effect games and I will never ever buy a game from Bioware ever again. Not just because of Mass Effect, but also because of Star Wars.
 
She's at Grissom Acadmy

Yeah, I just looked it up. That quest disappeared from my quest log and I had no idea why.

"If Shepard does not help Grissom Academy in time, she will appear as a special enemy Phantom when Shepard raids Cerberus Headquarters."

That's pretty dumb. >.>
 
So why did Cerberus attack the Citadel? Why was Udina bad? I felt that part to be badly done.

And the endings were odd. I picked the middle option since it seemed to be the best (full Paragon) but why destroy the relays?

Also, was there any way to defeat the Illusive Man without undertaking a Renegade option (shoot him before he shoots Anderson)? I used the Paragon options until there was one part where neither of the Paragon options were available to me.
 
I love that everybody thinks, oh it's just the haters and the fanboys it can't be that bad. I am all grown up and I can deal with it.

It's kind of cute reading those posts in the OT from people who haven't seen the ending thinking they know better than those of us that have

It'll only lead to more meltdowns which is a good thing
 
Someone pointed it out and now I can't unsee it. The little kid silhouette at the end with the grandpa looks just like a scaled down adult, with a smaller proportionate head and long legs.
 
She's a teacher at Grissom Academy and if you go there you can rescue her and her students from Cerberus. Afterwards you then occasionally can see her at the Citadel.

Grissom Academy is actually one of my favorite parts of the game. Seeing Jack playing mother hen was pretty hilarious and somewhat fitting.

I very much disliked Jack in ME2. Didn't like her attitude, her design, nothing about her. Seeing how she matured and the effect Shep had on her though made me like her. Also liked her design a lot more.

So why did Cerberus attack the Citadel? Why was Udina bad? I felt that part to be badly done.

And the endings were odd. I picked the middle option since it seemed to be the best (full Paragon) but why destroy the relays?

Also, was there any way to defeat the Illusive Man without undertaking a Renegade option (shoot him before he shoots Anderson)? I used the Paragon options until there was one part where neither of the Paragon options were available to me.
I Paragon'd him. He took his own life (as did Saren in my ME1). My Shep seems pretty good at making people shoot their own heads.
 
Also, was there any way to defeat the Illusive Man without undertaking a Renegade option (shoot him before he shoots Anderson)? I used the Paragon options until there was one part where neither of the Paragon options were available to me.

I did the paragon option (no idea what the requirements are for it) and Shepard basically makes him see he's completely indoctrinated and he shoots himself.
 
We have a converter... BURN THEM!!! MAKE SURE NONE LEAVE ALIVE!!

No but really, why else would they put that in there?


He's in scarred combat armor, right where he seemed to be dead, and he takes a breath.


The beam on the citadel represents organic and synthetic transfusion, which the kid hints at as the best solution, guess what, Saren and The Illusive Man, both the biggest pawns for the reapers, had synthetic and organic parts of them.


Shepard dies, no one fires the Crucible, the cycle repeats itself.


Edit; I think I just went through the five stages.

1. Oh come on derp herp, it can't be THAT bad!
2. Goddammit, BioWare sucks, these "endings" suck
3. I'll pay for ending dlc, I'll..... I'll do something!
4. Meh, no point in playing the series now, it's all ruined. I think I have a paper to do, who cares?
5. It was all a hallucination! Everything will be alright!


But to be fair, I hadn't seen the "best" ending before.
 
So why did Cerberus attack the Citadel? Why was Udina bad? I felt that part to be badly done.

And the endings were odd. I picked the middle option since it seemed to be the best (full Paragon) but why destroy the relays?

Also, was there any way to defeat the Illusive Man without undertaking a Renegade option (shoot him before he shoots Anderson)? I used the Paragon options until there was one part where neither of the Paragon options were available to me.

Udina was indoctrinated I believe or he's just a fucking prick. They attacked the Citadel to kill the Council, didn't want anyone getting in his way. And you can make the TIM kill himself like Saren if those options aren't greyed out.
 
So why did Cerberus attack the Citadel? Why was Udina bad? I felt that part to be badly done.

And the endings were odd. I picked the middle option since it seemed to be the best (full Paragon) but why destroy the relays?

Also, was there any way to defeat the Illusive Man without undertaking a Renegade option (shoot him before he shoots Anderson)? I used the Paragon options until there was one part where neither of the Paragon options were available to me.

Udina was tired of humans being second rate...He said so when he asks to see him in his office....His betrayal came to no surprise
 
She's a teacher at Grissom Academy and if you go there you can rescue her and her students from Cerberus. Afterwards you then occasionally can see her at the Citadel.

Grissom Academy is actually one of my favorite parts of the game. Seeing Jack playing mother hen was pretty hilarious and somewhat fitting.


I did this quest and I don't remember seeing Jack there.
 
No but really, why else would they put that in there?


He's in scarred combat armor, right where he seemed to be dead, and he takes a breath.


The beam on the citadel represents organic and synthetic transfusion, which the kid hints at as the best solution, guess what, Saren and The Illusive Man, both the biggest pawns for the reapers, had synthetic and organic parts of them.


Shepard dies, no one fires the Crucible, the cycle repeats itself.

Bioware just aren't that good at writing games. If the writers had actually written the last part as a dream or hallucination, then they would be rubbing our faces in it. The "buy DLC!" message would say "dude, it wa's a dream ;p" at the bottom and they would be responding angrily on Twitter to how no one understood it and that there's no point in writing such advanced prose when no one gets it anyhow.
 
The dream argument I think is pretty dull. One, because it's cliche and shit. Two, because I think it gives Bioware too much credit when they were clearly trying to be arty and "clever". Three, because it's cliche and shit.

The end of the game is so bad you can't even twist it in to an interesting and fun ending. That's quite an achievement.
 
ME4 will be about a race of midgets seeking treasures of the Tall Ones.

INVADER ZIM!!!!!!!

Which reminds me of the little kid in the cartoon

Kid: "I don't understand it. Why does he want to take over the earth so badly what does he have to gain? or to lose? and the malfunction of the mechanical Santa suit completely elude me."
Storyteller:.....*stufs kid under the bed* As I was saying....
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THAT can be used for ME3
 
I think a decent 'Shep dies for the greater good' ending would've been more than enough.. none of this space-Casper, relay-destroying bullshit.

I can picture a nice funeral on Earth, with the love interest, Joker, other squad-members, the council etc all attending, and that's it.
 
I have no desire to go back and play any of the games now, knowing that this is how it all ends. Ten minutes managed to taint five years.
 
The dream argument I think is pretty dull. One, because it's cliche and shit. Two, because I think it gives Bioware too much credit when they were clearly trying to be arty and "clever". Three, because it's cliche and shit.

The end of the game is so bad you can't even twist it in to an interesting and fun ending. That's quite an achievement.

Why would they show the end part though? Of him lying down on Earth taking a breath?
 
Why would they show the end part though? Of him lying down on Earth taking a breath?

Because Bioware.

There's a thousand things that don't make sense in this game. Doesn't mean that we go to the most readily available trope to explain them. What's so hard about taking Bioware's shitty writing and lack of foresight at face value?
 
I think a decent 'Shep dies for the greater good' ending would've been more than enough.. none of this space-Casper, relay-destroying bullshit.

I can picture a nice funeral on Earth, with the love interest, Joker, other squad-members, the council etc all attending, and that's it.

Yeah but who wants an ending you were expecting, and hoping would happen that would tie up your character's story nicely as well as everyone elses.
 
Why would they show the end part though? Of him lying down on Earth taking a breath?

Why did they do half the things they did with that ending? It's just a mess.

I think they threw so much "deep", "arty" and "philosophical" shit at the ending and hope that something stuck. If they were ambiguous enough maybe someone, somewhere, could twist it into something remotely interesting.

Except they haven't, because it was just bollocks.
 
Anderson throws you your dogtags at the beginning of ME3.

I didn't see them from then on so the Reaper shoots down the Normandy and the entire game from leaving Earth forth is a hallucination.

This isn't even a good straw man.

EDIT:
Of all the potential DLC they could release for ME3, a "team up with Aria to take back Omega" DLC is the most obvious.

We are assuming these DLC packs are set before the assault on the Cerberus base because that's where the game places you after a completed game - would they include Kai Leng in this potential Omega DLC? It would be sort of lackluster to include a boss character that the majority will have non-chronologically killed already that can't die. Maybe a cereal reference.
 
I figured I could make the Illusive Man kill himself. Not sure why I didn't have the option (I had full Paragon).

Tali's face was disappointing. Should've kept it hidden.
 
I'll take an ending where my femshep and traynor get their damn house together and the game becoms the sims.

uurgh. I can't even talk to male characters in the game without having to think about the eventual 'coming on to me' lines, just like when I talk to any female in ME2.

I'm talking to you, not trying to perv out the damn universe. It's so damn awkward. Talk about a fucking power fantasy.. literally :(


that said, this is probably the first game where you meet a gay character right of the bat and it's not downplayed or anything. Have to say I enjoyed that part, just not the eventual "I have to romance this guy / girl OR NOT" thing.

I can't stand the idea that James or Kaiden is going to come on to me at some point. Just talking buddy, no need to get all excited. Should have saved that xenophobic bitch instead.
 
1. Oh come on derp herp, it can't be THAT bad!
2. Goddammit, BioWare sucks, these "endings" suck
3. I'll pay for ending dlc, I'll..... I'll do something!
4. Meh, no point in playing the series now, it's all ruined. I think I have a paper to do, who cares?
5. It was all a hallucination! Everything will be alright!


But to be fair, I hadn't seen the "best" ending before.
I don't think I'll ever go for the hallucination theory. If space magic is involved, s/he could have lived regardless.

I'll take an ending where my femshep and traynor get their damn house together and the game becomes the sims.
I was thinking this earlier. However, instead of a house, it would just be on the Normandy.

Why the hell would you try to kill me? :lol
 
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