Wii U Speculation Thread The Third: Casting Dreams in The Castle of Miyamoto

When EA and Activision say "fix" the industry, they mean other publishers/developers not having the budgets/money to compete with EA and Activision which means eliminating competition.
 
Like I said.
They learned nothing.
Increasing hardware and development costs drastically every 5 years is a good way to crash the industry.
Does EA and the couple other publishers out there really think they can support the entire thing by themselves?
Pretty fucking short sighted.

Ace, we are talking about of EA and Activision here... the biggest part of their business is buying sw houses and they are cheaper when they are bankrupt! :P
 
Ace, we are talking about of EA and Activision here... the biggest part of their business is buying sw houses and they are cheaper when they are bankrupt! :P

Yeah.
And then they gut them. Fire the employees, And completely shit on their IPs.

It's brilliant. I guess EA wants to live in a universe where they only make a couple million a year from App games and have to shrink down to a tenth of their size..
 
Anyone got a good facepalm gif ?

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Let's get some clarification here--was ShockingAlberto being serious? I took that as a joke because I can't believe anybody would say something like that.
 
Wow.

Wow.

I will say this, though--venture into any thread on GAF about the next systems and many seem to feel the same way. I can't understand why.

It's why I eventually believe we end up with a 2-console world with companies teaming up.

My prediction:

Nintendo/Apple console.
 
I believe he is being serious, and I believe that to be true.

You believe that MS releasing a "full generational leap" will "fix" the industry or you believe they said it?
 
Wow.

Wow.

I will say this, though--venture into any thread on GAF about the next systems and many seem to feel the same way. I can't understand why.

It's why I eventually believe we end up with a 2-console world with companies teaming up.

My prediction:

Nintendo/Apple console.

Nah. Nintendo will always be able to stand on their own.
They have the money and the IPs to support themselves.
It's MS and Sony that will be fucked if they keep this up.
 
Nah. Nintendo will always be able to stand on their own.
They have the money and the IPs to support themselves.
It's MS and Sony that will be fucked if they keep this up.

That's why I believe MS and Sony team up eventually.
 
That's why I believe MS and Sony team up eventually.

Don't see that either.
A Japanese company and an American company have extremely different philosophies.
It's more like one drops out (Sony) and one turns towards an all inclusive device to compete directly with Apple (MS).
 
Microsoft should show this year's E3 but looking at the report again I am trying to understand why they would not show at E3 this year an ruin Nintendo's party.

+ Showing at E3 this year would tell the public to pass up the WiiU and wait on the next Xbox, this could hurt Nintendo or at least slow the core jump over to WiiU

- Showing may negatively impact 360 sales for the coming year that they wont have the 720 ready to sell yet

+ A year may not be enough for Nintendo to take over the next gen market

- A year may not be enough time for the 720 to be extremely overpowered so it might be closer to WiiU levels than MS wants

I don't really see Microsoft staying quiet for too long, if the media starts hyping up the WiiU and sales are killing the 360 I think they will launch a wave of news about the nextbox
 
Don't see that either.
A Japanese company and an American company have extremely different philosophies.
It's more like one drops out (Sony) and one turns towards an all inclusive device to compete directly with Apple (MS).

It'll be interesting either way. I think this next round of consoles will be the last for one of them.
 
Don't see that either.
A Japanese company and an American company have extremely different philosophies.
It's more like one drops out (Sony) and one turns towards an all inclusive device to compete directly with Apple (MS).

i think that's a given... that was their long term plan since the beginning...
get control of the living room. Gaming was just their troyan horse


Microsoft should show this year's E3 but looking at the report again I am trying to understand why they would not show at E3 this year an ruin Nintendo's party.

+ Showing at E3 this year would tell the public to pass up the WiiU and wait on the next Xbox, this could hurt Nintendo or at least slow the core jump over to WiiU

- Showing may negatively impact 360 sales for the coming year that they wont have the 720 ready to sell yet

+ A year may not be enough for Nintendo to take over the next gen market

- A year may not be enough time for the 720 to be extremely overpowered so it might be closer to WiiU levels than MS wants

I don't really see Microsoft staying quiet for too long, if the media starts hyping up the WiiU and sales are killing the 360 I think they will launch a wave of news about the nextbox


if dev kits are already out there i don't think they have much room to greatly increase their hw perfomance...
 
Microsoft should show this year's E3 but looking at the report again I am trying to understand why they would not show at E3 this year an ruin Nintendo's party.

I think it's quite simple:

They're either not ready yet or they (like the rumors are about Nintendo recently) are trying to up the power on their system before unveiling it. ShockingAlberto's statement above points to that.
 
I don't think a year can buy you much power difference at the same cost range but if MS is willing to take a huge loss in profits they might still be able to pull off huge power gains over the WiiU

Even better if Nintendo went for a meh level of power for the WiiU as it is the popular belief

the Wild Card here is SONY they are the ones closest to exiting this market
If Vita was doing gangbusters I would not be so worried about them showing up to the party with power but I am doubting it right now because they don't seem to have the 3rd party support pull

So Next Gen is pretty much here in 3 years all 3 consoles should be on the shelves

Who will have the hardware sales lead this time around?

The Wii may have won this gen but I give the HD race to Microsoft this gen.

As for Next Gen even with WiiU getting a head start Nintendo is entering HD for the first time while MS and Sony are veterans at this already it won't be easy for Nintendo to keep a sales lead
 
I just hope we don't see the polarization in gaming continue, where the trends are super high budget AAAA titles from EA, Activision, etc and then super low budget "indie" titles on Steam, XBLA, NiN, ipad, etc. Gimme a good B-grade game and I'll be a happy man!
 
I just hope we don't see the polarization in gaming continue, where the trends are super high budget AAAA titles from EA, Activision, etc and then super low budget "indie" titles on Steam, XBLA, NiN, ipad, etc. Gimme a good B-grade game and I'll be a happy man!

Yeah, Studios like Platinum and Grasshopper need to survive for this industry to work.
 
are we really buying into the AAAA stuff?

how many little devs will run out of money trying to reach an AAAA goal?

Can KICKSTARTER support AAAA titles?

I think the fight will go from huge titles to small downloadables so maybe NPD will start to heavily track download sales next gen. Indie can survive on the digital realm
 
are we really buying into the AAAA stuff?

how many little devs will run out of money trying to reach an AAAA goal?

Can KICKSTARTER support AAAA titles?

I think the fight will go from huge titles to small downloadables so maybe NPD will start to heavily track download sales next gen. Indie can survive on the digital realm

Small devs will move to App stores, where they'll be relegated to mediocraty.
The big devs will begin to run their franchises into the ground rather quickly as the gaming scene dries up due to lack of creativity.

Only Nintendo is left standing.

That is the future if EA and Activision have their way.
 
That was my understanding, so far as it went. They pretend to be SRAM in that they provide access to memory in arbitrary time rather than in sync with update cycles, and thus provide predictable maximums on latency, so the rest of the logic doesn't need to be altered.

Ok. I have little understanding of how BC is effected by this.

I just hope we don't see the polarization in gaming continue, where the trends are super high budget AAAA titles from EA, Activision, etc and then super low budget "indie" titles on Steam, XBLA, NiN, ipad, etc. Gimme a good B-grade game and I'll be a happy man!

The gaming middle class is disappearing due in part to trying to be more than what it was this gen IMO. And the push for more power next gen could be the final nail for it.
 
are we really buying into the AAAA stuff?

how many little devs will run out of money trying to reach an AAAA goal?

Can KICKSTARTER support AAAA titles?

I think the fight will go from huge titles to small downloadables so maybe NPD will start to heavily track download sales next gen. Indie can survive on the digital realm

I believe that's the point. Only a few megapublishers have the ability to pull it off. In effect, the competition's games look like trash. And I'm sure the extra DLC missions will keep rolling out for those AAAA titles as well.
 
i cant tell if that's a good thing or a bad thing...

For only a few publishers to be left in the entire industry?
It's fucking horrible.
We've already lots dozens of developers and publishers this generation.
It's going to get worse if they have their way.
 
Small devs will move to App stores, where they'll be relegated to mediocraty.
The big devs will begin to run their franchises into the ground rather quickly as the gaming scene dries up due to lack of creativity.

Only Nintendo is left standing.

That is the future if EA and Activision have their way.

Madden, Wii-U Dance-Off, and Temple Run 17 on iPhone

Not like this....

...not like this
 
Small devs will move to App stores, where they'll be relegated to mediocraty.
The big devs will begin to run their franchises into the ground rather quickly as the gaming scene dries up due to lack of creativity.

Only Nintendo is left standing.

That is the future if EA and Activision have their way.

I think the App stores has the potential to kill gaming as we now know it and redefine it into what people have been warning us about with APPLE

so I think the big guys have more to fear of becoming invisible

looking at some of the gems showing up on the 3DS eShop Nintendo can fight in both worlds
 
I finally got around to playing Kid Icarus on my 3DS after downloading it like two months ago.
I can see why they brought it back, it's addictive as all hell. This is a franchise they need to keep going on U and future consoles.

FUCKING EGGPLANT WIZARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDS

Also, is it really that hard people? I don't think so, I've died a few times due to my blubbering stupidity but never through puzzles, enemy bombardments, etc.
 
Ya know, with all the rampant chest thumping and wild predictions being thrown left and right, the next few years are going to be fun simply because you know a lot of people are going to have to eat crow, regardless of how things turn out.
 
I finally got around to playing Kid Icarus on my 3DS after downloading it like two months ago.
I can see why they brought it back, it's addictive as all hell. This is a franchise they need to keep going on U and future consoles.

FUCKING EGGPLANT WIZARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDS

Also, is it really that hard people? I don't think so, I've died a few times due to my blubbering stupidity but never through puzzles, enemy bombardments, etc.

I LOVE Icarus, and second on my gaming wish list for this year (first is a phenomenal U launch) is that Uprising kills on the sales charts.

I'd love to see the Icarus series take its rightful place beside Mario, Zelda, and Metroid on Nintendo's top-shelf of franchises.
 
I LOVE Icarus, and second on my gaming wish list for this year (first is a phenomenal U launch) is that Uprising kills on the sales charts.

I'd love to see the Icarus series take its rightful place beside Mario, Zelda, and Metroid on Nintendo's top-shelf of franchises.

That's probably a bit too much to ask for. 1-2million lifetime worldwide is probably a best case scenario estimate. Nintendo really does seem to pouring on the support for it though. The game looks immense.

I wish they took some of that time and effort to properly resurrect starfox...*sigh*
 
I finally got around to playing Kid Icarus on my 3DS after downloading it like two months ago.
I can see why they brought it back, it's addictive as all hell. This is a franchise they need to keep going on U and future consoles.

FUCKING EGGPLANT WIZARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDS

Also, is it really that hard people? I don't think so, I've died a few times due to my blubbering stupidity but never through puzzles, enemy bombardments, etc.

I beat it as a kid, it wasnt the hardest game in my library but it had decent challenge and frustrating moments

it deserves its return as much as metroid does so I am glad to see it in good hands

now continue the card packs and add NFC figuirines for sale with the WiiU version and you have a new fad
 
Nintendo really does need a big, humongous, mega-popular online game in addition to mariokart. I'd point to smash bros but I think another 2+ years is too long to wait.
 
That's probably a bit too much to ask for. 1-2million lifetime worldwide is probably a best case scenario estimate. Nintendo really does seem to pouring on the support for it though. The game looks immense.

I wish they took some of that time and effort to properly resurrect starfox...*sigh*

I know.. but I can fantasize, right?

An era of gaming where Zelda/Icarus/Metroid/StarTropics-flavored action-adventure gaming supplants FPSes as the dominant genre.. mmmmm...
 
I beat it as a kid, it wasnt the hardest game in my library but it had decent challenge and frustrating moments

it deserves its return as much as metroid does so I am glad to see it in good hands

now continue the card packs and add NFC figuirines for sale with the WiiU version and you have a new fad

Please NO!!! It would probably ruin me. Skylanders looks really intriguing and fun but I can see that money sink and can stay away. If any Nintendo IP starts doing this (Pokemon we all know its going to next) I'll be homeless
 
Please NO!!! It would probably ruin me. Skylanders looks really intriguing and fun but I can see that money sink and can stay away. If any Nintendo IP starts doing this (Pokemon we all know its going to next) I'll be homeless

And imagine being an OCD completionist in that kind of environment. It'd be heaven and hell, all at the same time!
 
That's probably a bit too much to ask for. 1-2million lifetime worldwide is probably a best case scenario estimate. Nintendo really does seem to pouring on the support for it though. The game looks immense.

I wish they took some of that time and effort to properly resurrect starfox...*sigh*

And StarTropics, because StarTropics. :P

This is now my de facto answer for these topics regarding old Nintendo IP resurrections. Mystery At Murasame Castle or just something involving awesome action slaher/platforming with Takamaru is runner up.
 
1-2 million is what Metroid pulls in, though.
And considering that KI is the sister franchise...

I did say best case scenario...

At this point though, I think KI has better marketability than recent metroid efforts. In all honesty, as this gen went on, nintendo's major hardcore franchises all became less and less marketable due to a lack of H-Dees.
 
With that rumor of Nintendo bringing new IPs, and Miyamoto's baby on the way, if any franchise is going on the back-burner, it'll be Star Fox. I bet.

By baby I mean new IP too guys. :P
 
And StarTropics, because StarTropics. :P

This is now my de facto answer for these topics regarding old Nintendo IP resurrections. Mystery At Murasame Castle or just something involving awesome action slaher/platforming with Takamaru is runner up.

I hope Takamaru makes it into Smash Bros. But I thought Murasame Castle and Detective Club would be perfect for come backs.
 
now that I think about it the subscreen is a perfect portal. Put the Pokemon on the screen, the screen shows cool portal animation and transports Pokemon into game. This is Def gonna happen no question
 
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