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saw this posted in the youtube comments:
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Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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heliosRAzi
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We could attribute this to Bioware's lackadaisical writing
Haunted
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My biggest problem with ME3 isn't even the ending, it's their hokey attempt at humanising and developing Shepard with that shitty human kid and the nightmares and it just backfires completely. My renegade Shepard would not have given a flying shit about that kid. I didn't give a shit when it blew up. I would've blown up that ship myself if given the option.
All that kid and save earth stuff (my Shep is a colonist - never been to earth and has no special attachment to it at all) makes me think that ME3 didn't feature my own Shepard but one put in there by Bioware. That is the real tragedy of ME3.
edit: I wanted to post this but was banned, when Patrick Klepek said this on the Bombcast I actually shouted "that's exactly it" at my computer.
All that kid and save earth stuff (my Shep is a colonist - never been to earth and has no special attachment to it at all) makes me think that ME3 didn't feature my own Shepard but one put in there by Bioware. That is the real tragedy of ME3.
edit: I wanted to post this but was banned, when Patrick Klepek said this on the Bombcast I actually shouted "that's exactly it" at my computer.
Dunno, there is some great stuff in ME3 which makes me think that time and/or the lack of ideas for alternatives was short.
It really feels like ME3's more for a Paragon Shepard, there's a lot of great pay off for a pure Paragon run whereas they make a bunch of stupid excuses to make the plot work the way they want with a Renegade run. Kind of ironic, given they seemed to be favoring Renegade with ME2 and even made Paragon rougher in that (Paragon interrupt PUNCHING Zaeed and all).
Shake Appeal
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It's staggering how sloppy they are about things that would take all of thirty seconds to get right or double check.
You never had your Shepard. You could stay with the Alliance in Mass Effect, you couldn't decide not be part of the spectres, and you couldn't decided to be on your own in any of the games. It's not your renegade Shepard or paragon Shepard, it's Bioware's and always has been.
heliosRAzi
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Then attribute it to Mac Walters' lackadaisical writing since he was the once responsible for it because I agree that there were some great stuff in the rest of the game, but he's responsible for the ending because he wants LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
I wish dead squadmates/important characters would appear instead of the kid.Would have made these dream sequences so much better.Just leave the kid for people who didn't import their saves or something.
I heard that the ending was shit, but me and my girlfriend where unprepared for how shit it actually was. Just completed it like 15 mins ago and we were thinking, "how could this be bad? It's looking pretty epic so far." For a series that spends most of it's time trying to make you give a shit about the characters and succeeding, how the fuck did they go so wrong with that ending?
Didn't notice that. Fuck it, it's a bad writing singularity we needed to fear, not a technological one.
Because you want it to be OK, so you accept what's presented to you. Can't blame you for that, we all invested a lot of time in these games.
I still feel like I'm being punished for having paid attention. And Star Kids reasoning is still flawed. Even if you accept some of his premises, like they only intended to impose order and save organics from destroying themselves... Why is one of the new solutions he's come up with to destroy the reapers? How is that a 'solution'? Even if I could accept that as just being badly explained by abandoning the chance for a true ME-style conversation at the end (which Hudson and Walters decided on explicitly), the raison d'être of the reapers is still not supported by the previous games. Up until that point they ate and 'preserved' the most advanced/promising species. They improved themselves most of all. Now the reason that they're not just selfish machine 'gods' is - not a problem that calls for this solution.
It is true that even in ME1 they had written themselves into a corner, so I gotta wonder: Why did I ever give a shit? Haha... Ah, fuck.
this actually makes sense. show, not tell, bioware!!!
As the kid ties directly to the ending I would put them in the same boat. Besides, those lame attempts at forcing these things into your Shepard were a complaint since the beta came out. The ending was just the culmination of that string of terrible ideas foreshadowed by many of us. The dream sequences certainly rank up there, together with the dream sequence from God of War 3, as one of the most terrible forcing of traits into a character that doesn't need it.
Here here! Thread's on repeat anyways, so repost.
Isn't that the wrong ship that is shown being blown up?
Looks about right, the kid is in the second shuttle that gets blown up.
BuckRobotron
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It might have been more entertaining if they added in more extreme alternative scales of relay destruction. Very low assets=failed crucible/catalyst, setting off proverbial firecracker. Blank WTF faces all-around, Reapers take care of business. OTOH, high assets gets the crucible fully up and running only to realize this is the biggest reset button of all, setting off the Big Bang and resetting the whole friggin' mess anyway. No chance for Sweet Buzz in that one.
WAS THE KID REALLY IN THE VENT AT ALLDon't start this again
No, but if you join the conspiracy theorists, he is just a materialization of the indoctrination process Shepard could be into since as early as the events in Arrival. It's funny that if that is the case, you could make a case of retconning the story since that very point, thus ME3 could have never happened at all. Other points are every time Shepard goes to sleep and has his visions, or at the very ending, when he is lifted to the heavens and given 3 choices by God.
So it was all a dream!!! *I'm going crazy here*
Oops, yeah you're right.
I started a new Shepard and made him look asian. But whenever I hear him speak there's a disconnect. I feel like he should be speaking engrish.
Confidence Man
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Stopped reading here:
The ending is like a black hole sucking up all the criticism when it deserves to be spread out more.
True. Mostly all of ME feels pretty confined.
Tokubetsu
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It was all a dream, I used to read word up magaz- oh wait, that's not right is it?!?
Diatribe1974
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Okay...spoilered question for those who've beaten the game:
While I've not played the game yet, I have watched the various endings and have a question: Under the best of conditions, what is the status of a "perfect" ending for my crew? I know there is the "Woah, is that Shepard breathing at the end?" styled stuff in the 2 second clip, but in the various endings, you only see 3 of the crew exiting the crashed Normandy, but no sign of anyone else. I ask because I worked my ass off in ME2 to make sure everyone lived.
but 99.5% of the game is the best in the series, though.
"Which flavor of snowcone would you like from cherry, blueberry, or lime; my sweet? Notice though, you can only get lime if your effective pissed off fan score is above 2500, and if you have one over 5000 and pick cherry you'll get another surprise."
Don't need spoilers. As for that 'perfect ending' there is none. You only know what happens to whomever walks out of the ship at the end.
He's not wrong, the game is really good. And in any case, he says the same thing later on, that the ending just undoes anything the game had going for it.
But what brought it about tho? We are never given any insight into the 6 months he was out of duty, and he seems OK with the news of the Reapers arrival. Before then, like even after the collector's base events, he seems perfectly fine with all of it.
Was there even a vent? Or did I just BLOW YOUR MIND.
Vent kid and ceiling cat really need to get together.
Tokubetsu
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Aside from the ending stuff, my biggest other gripe with ME3 is all the Quarian shit. I thought they were supposed to be a fairly intelligent race right? Yet they keep making the poorest of decisons. They basically chose a slim chance of taking back their homeworld (which none of them have seen anyway) over the preservation of their race. They're given outs after almost every mission you do that relates to them but they're still set on going for it.
Yeah, I mean, Bioware fucked it up (SHOCKER) by not letting onto any of it in ME1 or 2. And Space Jesus surely does not get PTSD. But I dunno.
WrenchNinja
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Oh man, im playing through the quarian arc again and I some how missed the renegade interrupt to punch Gerrel in the gut the first time.
Quarian piece of shit, felt so good.
Quarian piece of shit, felt so good.
Tokubetsu
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I guess. =/
BuckRobotron
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Focus with the Quarians all comes down to overly aggressive individual leaders, in this case dragging along a uniquely captive civilian populace who can't escape the bad decisions.
That guy made me hate the Quarians so much that even when presented with the paragon "get both on your side" option, I still chose to destroy them.
Tokubetsu
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There should be a cutscene at the end, if you save both geth and quarians, and pick the synthesis ending where you just see all the quarians throwing themselves off cliffs because they're part synthetic now. It would be hilarious and awesome. Fuck the quarians.
You'd think the one admiral I saved that everyone loves would listen to reason though...
You'd think the one admiral I saved that everyone loves would listen to reason though...
To be fair it sounded like space Morrigan's new weapon had the Geth on the ropes until the Reapers got involved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30gdUX6ZLx8&list=FLtj8wELQk0B2KMtlgnXqYsA&feature=mh_lolz
This piece still gives me goosebumps, one of the best music in the trilogy.
it's composed by Clint Mansell it seems.
This piece still gives me goosebumps, one of the best music in the trilogy.
it's composed by Clint Mansell it seems.
Tokubetsu
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I was under the impression they never had them on the ropes. The weapon worked in testing (against stragglers etc), but when they intiated the war, the reapers were already there.
Were the reapers the one who hit the tower they were building to pool intelligence? or Quarians? IIRC thats why they sided with the reapers.
foxdvd
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The game was so good, but there is no doubt that development time is the main reason the ending felt the way it did...still
I still loved the game though. I am not going to let the last 5 minutes hurt the overall experience. I mean, if I had sex with Jessica Alba, and right at the end before getting off I was interrupted by an earthquake and she left before I finished...I would still call that one of the best experiences of my life...
I still loved the game though. I am not going to let the last 5 minutes hurt the overall experience. I mean, if I had sex with Jessica Alba, and right at the end before getting off I was interrupted by an earthquake and she left before I finished...I would still call that one of the best experiences of my life...
The barely-audible whispers are your dead squadmates saying things (like Kaidan saying "Belay that! Go back for Williams!"), but the only way you'll notice that is if you've got subtitles on.
Well, this is more akin to Jessica Alba taking a dump on your dick after you are done, then feeding it to you, but OK.
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