Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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Um you guys aren't very creative. Quarians will learn to eat microbes from Turian poop. Turians will learn to live off wine after consulting with world-class sommeliers that were hiding out in cabins in the Alps. Salarians will go back to eating flies. The Asari become really skinny.
 
Metroid-Squadron said:
That would not be defending the ending, but defending the statements from the developers. Completely different things.
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But that's part of the reason the fans are angry with the ending. People were blatantly told by PR-speak that our choices would matter and complete in different endings based on our choices. Yeah, overexpectations and all that, but are the developers are allowed to lie, and not expect that the consumer isn't going to be upset about a falsely represented ending sequence to a trilogy driven by the illusion of choice having consequences in the overall story?
 
Eusis said:
I find it funny how at first it seemed like ME was going to do right what Xenosaga attempted, an epic space opera RPG series. Instead it seems to be an inversion, which STILL means ME did more right than Xenosaga did, but Xenosaga managed to vault forward in quality for the final installment and have one helluva spectacular ending (that, incidentally, was even bleaker than ME's) whereas ME3 remained consistent with ME2 then fell flat at the end.
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Your right. ME is a far, far better epic space opera RPG series. But that ending was such a great payoff for keeping up with the story. Bleak, but oh so great.
 
I actually hit the acceptance stage right after I finished it. In fact, I don't even want a new improved ending/epilogue and accept Bioware had their [terribly failed] vision for an ending. Changing it as DLC would make it worse for me and would in fact make me bitter about the whole thing, not because it can't be improved, but because to me there is a reason for it to be that way, and not even a sinister reason of "we want everyone to be talking about it forever and ever but left enough holes to patch it in if it needs to be done" but rather because there is a certain incompetence about Bioware I have come to accept.

That is an ending I can live with perfectly fine. It makes it easier to follow through with my idea of just wanting to see the trilogy through and be done with Bioware for good; it's the greatest excuse. Any attempts to bring me back would be worse to me because, truth be told, I quite enjoyed the game when I thought I would only half enjoy it like I did 2. I think that when it shines it does so very brightly and I am better thinking Bioware does not know why that is.
 
Metroidvania said:
But that's part of the reason the fans are angry with the ending. People were blatantly told by PR-speak that our choices would matter and complete in different endings based on our choices. Yeah, overexpectations and all that, but are the developers are allowed to lie, and not expect that the consumer isn't going to be upset about a falsely represented ending sequence to a trilogy driven by the illusion of choice having consequences in the overall story?
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Bioware overhyped the previous Mass Effect games too. "Fool me twice..."
 
Mass Effect 3 Spoilers |OT2| Spoiler: spoiled little brat spoils everything

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Um you guys aren't very creative. Quarians will learn to eat microbes from Turian poop. Turians will learn to live off wine after consulting with world-class sommeliers that were hiding out in cabins in the Alps. Salarians will go back to eating flies. The Asari become really skinny.
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I was in acceptance mode from the moment it happened, partly because people had warned me about how bad the ending was, and partly because I have so many other reservations about the series that the ending being kind of ridiculous and disrespectful of player choice made sense to me.

But I was disappointed that Bioware failed to exceed my reasonably low expectations. That quite predictable fanmade flowchart that's doing the rounds was about where I hoped they would hit, and they couldn't even deliver on that.
 
Bioware knows they either patch in an actual ending or face the reality that most people wont buy their games. Charging a little for what people want is a win-win scenario, so it's just logical and inevitable at this point.

I mean, fuck man, they already did this with the From Ashes content. This was probably the plan all along.
 
So, I realize I'm kind of late with this but I just finished the game. I don't want to waste too many words on the ending itself but was anyone else incredibly disappointed with the events leading up to the ending? I mean, in Mass Effect 2 I had the lives of my entire team on the line. My preparations decided life or death and there were intense situations that made me sit on the edge of my seat. In ME3 however, from the point Shepard says his goodbyes I only got some really bland 'hold the line' style shooting sections that the game has been loaded with anyway, with only two party members being present. At the climax of the whole trilogy I expected lots of moments from my team like Grunt holding off those rachni in that side quest but there were none near the ending. Or that war asset number thing actually doing something significant. Just entitlement, I guess...

At the very least I'm glad they didn't shoehorn in a bossfight. Saren getting up even after his suicide just for the sake of a boss fight or the end boss of ME2 were just pathetic IMO so this one's a plus at least. And as for the indoctrination thing, if they really sold a product without its planned ending and want me to reinstall the game after I'm through with it to get a conclusion, I'll be damn pissed.
 
I think I've finally hit acceptance too. I no longer get angry or depressed when I think about ME3, I just don't really care too much anymore.

So uh....thanks for that Bioware, I guess. I still want a better ending and a Garrus stand-alone game though.
 
Metroid-Squadron said:
Except I continue to enjoy the games, instead of being bitter about the whole thing :).


That would not be defending the ending, but defending the statements from the developers. Completely different things.
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We are bitter about the ending, most of us agree the game was fantastic ... which makes the ending worse
 
Karl2177 said:
Defenders of the ending

Explain:
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Those arent your ending though, those are just a part of your ending, just like how picking Kaiden or Ashley to live in ME1 was part of which ending you get, or if you saved the Quarien or Geth or both in ME3 are part of your ending. All of these things effect how your world of Mass Effect ended.


Some people will have had Wrex die, and the Rachni are extinct and nearly all of their team die during the final mission of ME2, and maybe they didnt cure the Krogans, and the Geth were obliterated and they sacraficed their life to take control of the Reapers and save the universe from mass extermination. Thats nothing like how my Mass Effect series ended, but it will be true for someone out there. Its all stuff that will effect how the shepards story has ended.
 
RaySpencer said:
Those arent your ending though, those are just a part of your ending, just like how picking Kaiden or Ashley to live in ME1 was part of which ending you get, or if you saved the Quarien or Geth or both in ME3 are part of your ending. All of these things effect how your world of Mass Effect ended.

Some people will have had Wrex die, and the Rachni are extinct and nearly all of their team die during the final mission of ME2, and maybe they didnt cure the Krogans, and the Geth were obliterated and they sacraficed their life to take control of the Reapers and save the universe from mass extermination. Thats nothing like how my Mass Effect series ended, but it will be true for someone out there. Its all stuff that will effect how the shepards story has ended.
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Exactly.
 
RaySpencer said:
Those arent your ending though, those are just a part of your ending, just like how picking Kaiden or Ashley to live in ME1 was part of which ending you get, or if you saved the Quarien or Geth or both in ME3 are part of your ending. All of these things effect how your world of Mass Effect ended.


Some people will have had Wrex die, and the Rachni are extinct and nearly all of their team die during the final mission of ME2, and maybe they didnt cure the Krogans, and the Geth were obliterated and they sacraficed their life to take control of the Reapers and save the universe from mass extermination. Thats nothing like how my Mass Effect series ended, but it will be true for someone out there. Its all stuff that will effect how the shepards story has ended.
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That's not an ending, that's a winding down of the smaller individual stories in regards to the overarching plot of fighting the reapers. None of the character's stories are done until the reapers are gone, they are there as plot pieces to support Shepard in the war, at least in regards to the progression of ME3's story.

But once the reapers are gone (even ignoring the inconsistencies of the catalyst), instead of a conclusion or anything of that nature, we get the color-swapped ending only showing the Normandy crashing in an illogical escape attempt. Without a sense of closure besides "imagine your own ending, start speculating", what are we left with? Blown up relays and being stuck on Earth?
 
RaySpencer said:
Those arent your ending though, those are just a part of your ending, just like how picking Kaiden or Ashley to live in ME1 was part of which ending you get, or if you saved the Quarien or Geth or both in ME3 are part of your ending. All of these things effect how your world of Mass Effect ended.


Some people will have had Wrex die, and the Rachni are extinct and nearly all of their team die during the final mission of ME2, and maybe they didnt cure the Krogans, and the Geth were obliterated and they sacraficed their life to take control of the Reapers and save the universe from mass extermination. Thats nothing like how my Mass Effect series ended, but it will be true for someone out there. Its all stuff that will effect how the shepards story has ended.
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This.

That is just one choice of many.
 
I'm still not done with the game (had a cold all this past week that stopped me from playing), but I really want to finish it so I can read all of these spoiler things about why the ending isn't good. That said, I find it super interesting how many people are upset, and I wonder if it is even possible for Bioware to have an ending that pleases everyone.

To that end, I made this actually-spoiler-free video that kind of pokes fun at the whole "change the ending" protests.

http://youtu.be/wWjNULcYrsA

Guess I should call in sick from work for a couple more days until I can actually finish the game.
 
RaySpencer said:
Those arent your ending though, those are just a part of your ending, just like how picking Kaiden or Ashley to live in ME1 was part of which ending you get, or if you saved the Quarien or Geth or both in ME3 are part of your ending. All of these things effect how your world of Mass Effect ended.


Some people will have had Wrex die, and the Rachni are extinct and nearly all of their team die during the final mission of ME2, and maybe they didnt cure the Krogans, and the Geth were obliterated and they sacraficed their life to take control of the Reapers and save the universe from mass extermination. Thats nothing like how my Mass Effect series ended, but it will be true for someone out there. Its all stuff that will effect how the shepards story has ended.
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1)no,this things affect playing the game,the trilogy.
letting asley to die wont be in me3.affects playing the trilogy!!!!!

2) and after letting asley live tell me what difference does the ending had for you??

or we should imagine how things unfolded in the end?
 
Did Bioware Really have to use stock photos and concepts from youtube Videos?
Its like they want us to hate them! I mean What The F*** guys Bioware is getting worse by the game nowdays!
 
RaySpencer said:
Those arent your ending though, those are just a part of your ending, just like how picking Kaiden or Ashley to live in ME1 was part of which ending you get, or if you saved the Quarien or Geth or both in ME3 are part of your ending. All of these things effect how your world of Mass Effect ended.


Some people will have had Wrex die, and the Rachni are extinct and nearly all of their team die during the final mission of ME2, and maybe they didnt cure the Krogans, and the Geth were obliterated and they sacraficed their life to take control of the Reapers and save the universe from mass extermination. Thats nothing like how my Mass Effect series ended, but it will be true for someone out there. Its all stuff that will effect how the shepards story has ended.
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That isn't the ending I am arguing. Closure on characters aside, the ending I am arguing is the one in the picture. Bringing the closure on characters back in, that's hardly what I call an ending. That's simply playing the game. In which case, deciding in the first minute of Mass Effect 1 whether you were going to be Earthborn, a colonist, or a spacer is the ending as well.
 
RaySpencer said:
Those arent your ending though, those are just a part of your ending, just like how picking Kaiden or Ashley to live in ME1 was part of which ending you get, or if you saved the Quarien or Geth or both in ME3 are part of your ending. All of these things effect how your world of Mass Effect ended.


Some people will have had Wrex die, and the Rachni are extinct and nearly all of their team die during the final mission of ME2, and maybe they didnt cure the Krogans, and the Geth were obliterated and they sacraficed their life to take control of the Reapers and save the universe from mass extermination. Thats nothing like how my Mass Effect series ended, but it will be true for someone out there. Its all stuff that will effect how the shepards story has ended.
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The point is, all those things should have had an effect on the ending, but it doesn't. You get to the end and you have those 3 choices. Hell, even whoever you picked to be in your final squad doesn't even affect who comes out of the ship at the very end.

Let's compare, in ME 2, at the end you choose who does what on your suicide mission. Also, whether you updated your ship, if you made the characters loyal, if you went right after the collectors immediately after they captured your crew all determines what happens at the end. Who lives, who dies. ME3 had none of that. None of your actions really reflect what happens at the end. In fact, getting more resources is the worst thing to do because it just strands more and more people in the sol system.
 
Metroid-Squadron said:
Simple. At the end, Ashley lives.
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Not just that, maybe she died during the end of ME3, or maybe you sexed her up, and lived and is with Joker and EDI on this new planet, or maybe she lived and is with Joker and Liara/Garrus/Vega, etc. loads of different things change at the end of the series based on if Ashley or Kaiden lived.
 
BigTnaples said:
This.

That is just one choice of many.
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This is the last game in the Trilogy,They Promised you will see the effects of your decisions in THIS game and not in a upcoming paid DLC or Spinoff title.

How is saying : Oh it will effect the Universe is OK? How would you feel if a last episode of a TV Show had a total shit ending only to say that its for the universe after you were promised a fitting ending to these charachters you were watching?
 
I don't understand. ME2 DLC hammered into you that destroying a mass relay cripples its solar system. So we blew up every single mass relay and destroyed all the colonised worlds?
 
Jackpot said:
I don't understand. ME2 DLC hammered into you that destroying a mass relay cripples its solar system. So we blew up every single mass relay and destroyed all the colonised worlds?
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Space magic!!
different kind of explosion/shockwave.
Indoctrination!!

Make your choice and speculate.
 
Jackpot said:
I don't understand. ME2 DLC hammered into you that destroying a mass relay cripples its solar system. So we blew up every single mass relay and destroyed all the colonised worlds?
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I don't know why this is a point of contention at all. The people who know nothing about Mass Relays believe when you throw a moon at it, there is a huge explosion. The people who made them are very likely to be able to destroy them without supernova emulating effects. The whole 'space magic' argument is pretty stupid I think. That aspect is totally logical and fine.
 
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