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Except she's going to rotate out. I would predict that Avacyn will replace Norn and Drogskol Reaver will replace Concecrated Sphinx when that happens.
Keru_Shiri
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I'm going to hold final judgement on Avacyn until we see the rest of the set. We know that this set is going to be mechanically different than Innistrad and Dark Ascension, so there maybe more support.
"God's Beard!"
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So since you guys were saying my deck isn't structured very well, I've decided to slowly build it towards a good deck centered around Exalted abilities. As I get money I'm going to slowly phase in/out cards until it's something that works well. Anything you guys suggest would be greatly appreciated, I'm learning but I still don't really know what's out there.
So far I like these as a combo:
And this guy looks good since all my cards right now have either white or blue(would it make unbender tine viable? you guys said it sucked cause it cost 4, but with this guy they only cost 2):
I can't decide which of these enchant lands to add to my deck to replace some bounce lands:
So far I like these as a combo:
And this guy looks good since all my cards right now have either white or blue(would it make unbender tine viable? you guys said it sucked cause it cost 4, but with this guy they only cost 2):
I can't decide which of these enchant lands to add to my deck to replace some bounce lands:
Once the Titans are gone, and that benchmark hopefully raised, I can see Drogskol Reaver doing really well for himself. Grab some copies now, I say.
Bought 4 recently. While they haven't dropped ($5) I don't know if they'll ever get THAT much higher. 7 mana is a huge commitment
But that was my mentality, buy now while low lol
"God's Beard!"
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If Sovereigns of Lost Alara lets me put an aura on Kor Spiritdancer, do I still get to draw a card? Or is playing different than casting? Anyway, the idea is to have a 10/12 trample annihilator 2 on the 4th/5th turn if everything goes well. Is that good?
Land + wild growth
Land + Fertile Ground + Kor Spiritdancer
Land + Grand Arbiter (1 mana extra)
Land + Sovereigns of Lost Alara(+2 mana extra)
I need something to Buff Kor though so I can attack... even if it's just totem armor. 1/3 on the 4th turn is super sketchy.
Land + wild growth
Land + Fertile Ground + Kor Spiritdancer
Land + Grand Arbiter (1 mana extra)
Land + Sovereigns of Lost Alara(+2 mana extra)
I need something to Buff Kor though so I can attack... even if it's just totem armor. 1/3 on the 4th turn is super sketchy.
Yeah, "put into play" is not casting. It isn't all downside though. No one can counter the aura if it isn't cast.
If you can have it stay alive to connect it'd certainly be nice. But any removal or bounce spell totally hoses this. Also the Annihilator wouldn't trigger for the first attack (since it gets attached after it is attacking).
echoshifting
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I like ninjas, but having come back in after the fact shows me that the set was very boring flavor-wise.
"God's Beard!"
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Oh wow, that's better than drawing a card! I'll take it!
echoshifting
Banned
It was, but I still run ninja decks. 'cuz they're fun.
wat.
8cc flying fatties that can't be killed and prevent any of your other creatures from being killed.... Unless we're talking about Zendikar speeds, you pick that goddamn card.
Five mana to cast and five mana to equip?
Maybe if you put together a Puresteel Paladin/Avacyn/Worldslayer build
ThLunarian
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You guys are crazy. Avacyn is nuts, and could easily be a finisher in a control deck. Elesh Norn might be better in some ways, but she's also way more vulnerable to removal.
Also, Avacyn is just way cooler on principal than Elesh Norn.
She's also a way better Commander, combining with stuff like Armageddon, Catastrophe, and Planar Cleansing to create total blowouts.
Also, Avacyn is just way cooler on principal than Elesh Norn.
She's also a way better Commander, combining with stuff like Armageddon, Catastrophe, and Planar Cleansing to create total blowouts.
8cc in draft is half the mana pool!
How will they being doing drafts though?
Will it be INN/DKA/ACR(Not sure if thats the set shorthand or not)
Because if DKA is in, you'd have to remember she can be removed from the field by a one black mana common.
AVR gets drafted by itself.
Could be worse. Could play a "blow up all your land" deck.
Could be worse. Could play a "blow up all your land" deck.
iirc draft will only be ACR? whoops missed Ultron's post.
She provides no card advantage and doesn't effect the board in any meaningful way when she comes into play. There are better options for finishers out there. She's bad.
Commander is a different beast I'll admit but I can't imagine she's good as a general.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
The only things I hate in EDH are 'early-game' Infi combos and to a lesser extent, mass land destruction.
This could be just me, but for myself, EDH is my inner Timmy being let loose, or maybe Johnny for synergies or cool tribal decks.
In an EDH where a player isn't playing with the group, but rather, ignoring everyone until they get their infi combos such as Kiki-Jiki/Pestermite on turn 6 or repeatedly nuke the board with Armageddon/Jokalhaups after they've gotten fatties in, to me, that just seems kinda 'why bother playing'.
At least stuff like Slivers or Kaalia or Voltron generals like Uril or Skithyrx can be countered with removal in addition to making you an obvious target.
MLD and Combo, and to a lesser extent, Counterspell draw-go decks like Syg or Teferi, require counterspells of your own or massive hand-hate.
I've seen decks like Sharuum or Niv-mizzet in my local playgroup get teamed up on early, then repeatedly complain about it. The rest of us are just like "duh, what else are we going to do?"
I really like Commander, but the 'making it official' has led to a definite power creep I've noticed as more people come in with more efficient decks over the last few months. It changes the atmosphere to "hey, lets see some interesting stuff" to a more standard/legacy need-to-win atmosphere.
Less people are playing less 'competitive' stuff like Vampires or white weenies anymore.
Unless you can somehow ramp/cheat her in early or have constant land destruction to protect against removal, she's not. Any cheap exile removal/counterspell and she's gone.
Kinda figured with it being a large set, but I wasn't sure.
divisionbyzorro
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All this talk about B/W angels makes me hope Desolation Angel gets reprinted.
I feel like making all of your creatures indestructible as soon as she hits the field affects your board in a meaningful way. I don't know if you ever had an army that was indestructible, but it's pretty much a game winner.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
So trade question:
H: Scavenging Ooze
W: 2 x Bitterblossom, 1 Scion of Oona
Good trade?
H: Scavenging Ooze
W: 2 x Bitterblossom, 1 Scion of Oona
Good trade?
You might want to have them add something else to the trade, unless you don't mind missing out on a few bucks. I think the Ooze is worth around $40. Bitterblossom is about $15, and the Scion is a couple bucks or so.
thats what people said about sway of the stars.
Could be really nicely done too, in the art department (with an homage to the original art), with a townsfolk/farmer human taking something down.
There are no mana engines that I know of in Innistrad or Dark Ascension though that might change with Avacyn Restored.
Also once AVR releases won't Scars of Mirrodin block cycle out?
No more pod either, at least in Standard.
Also once AVR releases won't Scars of Mirrodin block cycle out?
No more pod either, at least in Standard.
Doesn't it last until the first set post M13 comes out?
Correct. Scars won't rotate until the Fall expansion releases, in this case whatever "Hook" is.
So basically, until "Hook" releases:
Scars Block
Innistrad Block
M12
M13
Will all be standard legal.
I thought M12 would cycle out once 13 hits
Nah, core sets don't cycle out until the following expansion set.
Titans till October.
Ugh no. That's awful waffle
That said, the standard build I'm bringing to PAX has Primeval Titans in it lol
Oh, I love the crap out of some Primeval Titan.
/green player.
What I don't love is the effect that Titans have on the competitive meta as a whole. It was probably a mistake to reprint them in M12, rather than a new mythic cycle, but eh.
Hoping for a sweet new cycle of M13 mythics that aren't quite as format affecting as Titans, maybe even at a higher cmc to start slowing the game down a bit more. Never liked the speed of Zendikar, so I've been enjoying a relative slowing of the average game lately.
Right now you would be losing out on the deal by a few dollars. It is important to note that right now, Scavenging Ooze is on the rise due to its performance in Maverick and other decks, replacing even the king of two-drop beaters, Tarmogoyf due to its ability to grow quickly and get rid of pesky things in the graveyard and even net you some life. There isn't going to be any more Oozes added to the current pool as Counterpunch Commander precons are being bought and ripped open so as people try to complete their set the demand will go up and thus the price. On the other hand, if Bitterblossom gets unbanned in Modern I can see that shooting up to the price of Thoughtseize/Dark Confidant, so if that happened you would make out in the deal.
Ridiculous card. Outplaying my opponent, was about to win when he whips this out. Whelp, used all my removals
well, if you didn't save your removal maybe you weren't really outplaying him.
zerokoolpsx
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<3 naturalize. I still remember when it was printed for Onslaught. Reprinted so many times since then. Revoke is good if you don't mind the sorcery speed.
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