Marvel's The Avengers |OT| (Dir. Joss Whedon) [Spoilers unmarked]

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Considering screen time for each of the actors, I thought it was pretty even. You don't come out of the theater thinking that someone wasn't in the movie enough. Now Thor could get to do some more badass stuff but that is pretty much it.

And both Hawkeye and Black Widow are good in this movie, especially Hawkeye get to do all kinds of awesome stuff.

One thing that made me kinda lol though is (first 5 minutes spoiler)
Loki telling Hawkeye he's got heart. This just after Hawkeye jumps out of the way from lightning bolt that hits and kills the guy behind him.
 
Considering screen time for each of the actors, I thought it was pretty even. You don't come out of the theater thinking that someone wasn't in the movie enough. Now Thor could get to do some more badass stuff but that is pretty much it.
I don't know about the actual screen time but what I loved about the movie is that it took time to give each characters scenes to show you through action what those characters are about and what they are good at. I was giggling like a kid so often :D
For example, Captain America giving orders to the policeman was a great moment for me

Whedon hit those notes like Busiek and Perez used to do, this movie is fueled by LOVE. And a shitton of money I guess lol.

I'm going to see it again with another group of friends tomorrow and I can't wait!
 
I'm back. Really, really enjoyed it. Huge crowdpleaser. The audience reacted REALLY well to pretty much all the scenes in a way I haven't seen in a while. I'll post detailed impressions later, but I think I'll watch some Man U vs Man City first. :)
 
I'm back. Really, really enjoyed it. Huge crowdpleaser. The audience reacted REALLY well to pretty much all the scenes in a way I haven't seen in a while. I'll post detailed impressions later, but I think I'll watch some Man U vs Man City first. :)

How would you compare it to the Transformers movies, since you're a known aficionado? ;)
 
I'm going to see it in IMAX 3D. There is also a 2D IMAX available at the theatre (Mall of Georgia Regal Cinema), am I making a mistake going with the 3D version?

Avengers just seems like a great film to see in 3D (aside from dimmer lighting).
 
I'm back. Really, really enjoyed it. Huge crowdpleaser. The audience reacted REALLY well to pretty much all the scenes in a way I haven't seen in a while. I'll post detailed impressions later, but I think I'll watch some Man U vs Man City first. :)

God I love good crowds. I went to a packed Hangover 2 showing and the crowd was so lively that it actually made me enjoy the film.
 
GAF, I want to watch all the Movieverse Marvel movies that fall in line with the avengers this week. What is the correct chronological timeline/order they should be in?
 
Thor and Cap. The Incredible Hulk ties in, but isn't as necessary.

Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America are the only ones you need to see

He could skip Captain America and not miss a thing.

He'd miss a good movie, and oh yeah, it leads into The Avengers.

Why would you skip the only worthwhile, must-see movie leading up to The Avengers? It's also the one that ties in more closely than any other.

That seems like terrible advice. Why would you skip the movie about the First Avenger? @_@

From what I've seen in the trailers Thor is important as well.

It has a decent first half and that's about it. And it doesn't really establish anything important enough without an understanding of which would detract from the experience of watching The Avengers. Manos was asking what was required viewing to understand The Avengers.



Because there is no such thing as an Avenger in the Captain America movie. The Avengers explains his role in the team well enough.



Thanks all for the advice. I kind of want to see Captain America for the lone fact it has the Dum Dum Dugan motherfucker who was in those awful Godzilla comics Marvel did (yes I know lots and lots of other things, but hey childhood exposure is a weird thing). Plus Cap beats the shit out of Nazi's so that can't be bad.

Thor should be interesting because it has a director way above the normal tier you'd expect for a movie like this. Also for the supporting cast being who it is.

Hulk I might see for shtis and giggles, I'm one of the weirdos that liked the first one. lol

Tried Iron Man and perhaps I just went in with the wrong attitude, but never could finish the first, and caught the end of second on TV.

Hopefully Red Box will have it since Amazon has buy only options.
 
GAF, I want to watch all the Movieverse Marvel movies that fall in line with the avengers this week. What is the correct chronological timeline/order they should be in?

iron man 1+2, thor, captain america. i would leave out incredible hulk, since you dont really need to see it (they explain everything you need to know in the avengers).
 
GAF, I want to watch all the Movieverse Marvel movies that fall in line with the avengers this week. What is the correct chronological timeline/order they should be in?

This one first!

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Well he gave them a ride once so it fits.
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I'll wait and see. If Avengers opens at $160-$165 I think it will be real close. That's dependent on Avengers' legs. TDKR has a little more space between it and the next big box office film.
Another thing to take into consideration is that The Amazing Spider-Man comes out just 17 days before The Dark Knight Rises, so that'll still be quite popular when Batman hits, and might impact the numbers a bit.
 
Dat box office. Damn.

Do people still think Dark Knight Rises is gonna beat Avengers this summer?

I think domestically TDKR will top Avengers easily but international is hard to predict.

Then again TDK wasn't released in China and that is a huge market for both Batman and Bale. TDKR will be released there.

Whatever we all win at the end if they both turn out to be awesome!
 
How would you compare it to the Transformers movies, since you're a known aficionado? ;)

I think other than the general design of the aliens at the end (which I found rather boring and the only disappointing thing about the movie) there isn't really much to compare to Transformers. Avengers is at the heart of it a character movie, albeit a comic book one. There is a ton of development, and all the characters got more screen time than I expected. The action sequences were also very well planned, with some outstanding shots which look right out of comic panels.

I'll type up full impressions in a bit, it's half-time now.
SUCK IT MAN U FANS!!!!!! LOL!!!
 
Catfish: yeah, the first scene is the one I meant.

The BO is going to be almost as ridiculous as Black Widow's ass.

Actually, when I went to see it the crowd was really 'normal'. There was only one group of clearly identifiable comic book fans who had already seen it once. I groaned when they hyped themselves up before the movie but they sat real quiet during it, thank god. The oldest person in that showing looked like my granny.
 
Then again TDK wasn't released in China and that is a huge market for both Batman and Bale. TDKR will be released there.

this also doesn't have an oscar worthy performance by an actor who just recently died. and don't tell me this didn't have a huuuge influence on the BO. it probably will take more WW but i'd say it will take less domestic. and that is if we all assume the movie is going to be as good as TDK.

i bet on the safe horse we..
1. know it's going to have a superb WoM
2. already know WW audiences like it
3. has 3D which brings in some extra bucks.
 
GAF, I want to watch all the Movieverse Marvel movies that fall in line with the avengers this week. What is the correct chronological timeline/order they should be in?
Chronologically? Captain America, Iron Man 1, The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2, Thor, and then The Avengers.
 
For the people who have seen the movie, don't you think we should just take a moment to talk about
Gwynneth Palthrow wearing jean shorts?
GODDAMN!
 
Since day one of Marvel Studios I've been a big fanboy. I love the Marvel comic universe, and Iron Man was a great way to start the ball rolling. The one thing that set Marvel Studios apart from all previous comic movie adaptations is that this wasn't a case of a Hollywood studio licensing properties to make profitable movies out of them. This was a case of an actual comic company wanting to invest into a movie comic universe continuity and to build on this universe through multiple movies each featuring individual comic properties - but all taking place in the same world. It was a dream in the making. Avengers is that dream realized.

Right from the start, the film connects to plot elements introduced in the previous Marvel movies, without wasting extra time rehashing events which the audience is expected to be familiar with. Those unfamiliar with such things won't really be completely in the dark, since much of the actual motivations and events are introduced in the movie itself, yet it is a nice nod to those who have paid attention up to now. The basic outline of the threat is introduced very quickly and once established, the movie shifts into the building of the character arcs. That is where the true beauty of the film shines the brightest.

Never before as a crossover movie of this sort been conceived and executed in such an elegant and faithful way. Not only does the movie never neglect any of the players in the story, but it goes out of its way to allow each and every individual to shine. This doesn't just apply to the major characters, but also the supporting cast. Avengers is SHIELD come to life, and along with it each and every Avenger. The characters who have had their own movies return as they were remembered - surprisingly even Bruce Banner. Ruffalo did an AMAZING job here fitting into the cast, and he nailed the character better than Ed Norton ever did. The character relationships and performances are all strong, and the script kept all the wit and dysfunctional idiosyncrasies expected by fans in an Avengers story.

I was impressed by both the character drama as well as the action sequences. As with comic narratives though, in many cases those are one and the same. The way their characteristics and personalities are reflected in how and who they fight sometimes tell more than what words or normal interactions can. The action itself is really well choreographed, and there's a lot of great framing in the specific sequences which looked right out of a great comic book spread.

My only disappointment with the movie would be how generic and unexciting the alien army at the end looked. It is as seen in the trailers - an uninspired almost-Skrull design which is not quite as imaginative or cool. Still, they managed to get quite a bit of mileage out of that simply because the heroes are so fun to watch in action. Kids will probably enjoy these sequences way more, and if they sell a bunch of toys because of that, they probably deserve to.

The score was surprising robust as well, ranging from a bunch of themes depending on the scenes, and adding quite a range of emotion to various sequences and framing the tone of each act in the movie. I think Marvel basically knocked this one out of the park. Anyone who grew up reading comics and knowing the Avengers for who and what they are will see how much love and care went into not just making this movie, but the patience of building all the previous movies to pave the way for this eventual pay off.

I really hope Marvel continues down this route and continues to expand on this unique business venture. It really shows how huge the gulf is between Marvel Studios and DC/Warner when it comes to knowing how to really take care of an entire comic stable and adapting it to film. When they make a second Avengers film, I hope they manage to introduce a more compelling overall villain. But judging from the tease at the end, I don't think we have to worry about that. :D
 
How effective are they with giving the characters roughly equal screen time?

Extremely effective. Not every character has "equal screen time" in runtime, but they all get different types of screen time, effective for the given character. They did a marvelous job imo.

I hope not very. Renner, Johannson, Ruffalo and Evans need to be on screen a LOT less than RDJ and Hemsworth.

I think you'll be happy with how plays out. :)

For the four characters that had their own films, it was pretty fair. But I think Iron Man probably came out top and Captain America probably had least. But just by small amounts. Counting all six. Hawkeye gets the short end of the stick by a lot.

Disagree that Hawkeye gets the short end of the stick completely. He was a vital character in the film, and they did far more with him than I expected. For characters without their own films, I think they managed to script it such that both Black Widow and Hawkeye felt very significant to the story, which is impressive. Also, they did SHIELD sooooooo well.
 
Hulk happens during Iron Man 2.

There's a lot of overlap between IM2, Thor, and Hulk, but I put them in that order because the ending of IM2 precludes the endings of the other two, and the ending of Hulk happens some time later (x amount of days since Banner's last Hulk out, I don't remember the number).
 
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