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[jobber]

So storyline wise,

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the Avengers only come back when people need them...so how come Tony drew up blueprints for Avenger's Mansion? I guess Bruce staying there was a given but clearly Tony was designing Cap's area at the end. Do they not go after b tier villains in this universe?

 

[HoodWinked]

So storyline wise,

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the Avengers only come back when people need them...so how come Tony drew up blueprints for Avenger's Mansion? I guess Bruce staying there was a given but clearly Tony was designing Cap's area at the end. Do they not go after b tier villains in this universe?

why do you question this lol. stark can build whatever he wants.

 

[Nemesis121]

Sony and FOX owns the movie rights respectively

Disney is probably pissed....

 

[jobber]

why do you question this lol. stark can build whatever he wants.

It was just weird being it was the next scene after Fury said that long, dramatic epilogue

 

[Funky Papa]

Wired article on creating Hulk:

Cool, thanks. I also found interesting that thay dediced to give Hulk a bit of a pudge. He is still THE STRONGEST THERE IS, but his belly is not cut to all fuck unlike in previous iterations.

Edit: This is the best I could find.

 

[Jinfash]

Link to Solo's posts plz

 

[shanshan310]

Marvel sold the rights for Spider-Man so long ago, and it was in limbo until somehow it landed into Columbia's hands. Go read the wiki page and you'll see all the craziness it has been through. James Cameron had it at one point.

X-Men was sold to FOX a long time ago too, probably just for monetary reasons. IDK. But as long as they keep making X-Men films, or still producing one, FOX keeps it.

So the possibilities are close to 0.

This is stupid and depressing, that's all I can say.

 

[Dram]

Sony and FOX owns the movie rights respectively

Marvel got the crap end of that deal. I read somewhere they only made $23 million off the X-Men movies, even though those movies have made tons of money.

 

[duckroll]

Marvel got the crap end of that deal. I read somewhere they only made $23 million off the X-Men movies, even though those movies have made tons of money.

I'm not sure how this is a "crap end" of the deal considering Marvel did not spend any money or creative effort on those movies at all. That is what licensing is. You make money without doing anything other than allowing others to develop your properties into products.

Let's put it this way. If Marvel did not license any of their properties out to other studios, there would be no Marvel Studios today. They would not have ever made Iron Man, because they would be out of business and all their IPs would have been auctioned off to the four winds.

 

[ScreenSplitter]

Yes, Spiderman and Wolverine's indefinite absence from Avengers flicks is upsetting. Although saying that, not sure how particularly Spidey compare to a walking death machine, a God, a rage monster, and a Super Soldier...

The Avengers, on the other hand, is the best superhero film I've ever seen. Hyperbolic? Maybe. But it managed to take a herculean task of making a film with 5 or 6 leading roles a beautiful combination instead of just Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr. fighting for screen time.

Out of all the heroes though, my favourite has to be Hulk. Ruffalo blows Bana/Norton out of the water, and his portrayal of a quivering, light-hearted yet not to be messed with Banner is refreshing. Also gets some of the best lines/scenes in the film.

"That's my secret Cap... I'm always angry"

And now, to accept the inevitable fate that is the 2-3 year wait for Avengers 2. *sigh*.

i dunno, it's no spider man 2.

Yeah, you're right, it was lacking a montage set to "Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head".

 

[duckroll]

And now, to accept the inevitable fate that is the 2-3 year wait for Avengers 2. *sigh*.

It's definitely not a 2 year wait. The plan if a 3 year wait, but even that might be subject to change. Marvel is doing this very carefully. They're not going to ruin Avengers by overdoing it. It has to be an event people look forward to, with individual stories from different heroes leading up to it slowly. World event, etc.

 

[Pkaz01]

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I actually liked how stark and hulk were the only two that weren't at each others throats the second they met each other. It makes the hulk save at the end all the more meaningful because he actually gives a shit about him

Downey and Ruffalo worked very well together.

 

[ScreenSplitter]

It's definitely not a 2 year wait. The plan if a 3 year wait, but even that might be subject to change. Marvel is doing this very carefully. They're not going to ruin Avengers by overdoing it. It has to be an event people look forward to, with individual stories from different heroes leading up to it slowly. World event, etc.

Yeah I totally agree. I'm already sceptical as to whether they're able to catch lightning in a bottle twice, but the fact that Whedon is already planning it is reassuring.

Iron Man 3 sounds interesting enough, with Stark being stuck in a situation where he apparently can't call Cap or Thor. Further cementing the idea of a cohesive universe. Can't say I'm leaping at the idea of Cap/Thor 2, but I would really love to see a Mark Ruffalo Hulk film.

And I'm also really hoping that Ant-Man can be in the next movie; Edgar Wright's directing, and has already met with Whedon to discuss. I'm guessing Wright didn't want to rush him in time for the first film though.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Movie was fucking amazing. The local theater I saw it in was so ...not up to par on the sound and picture area lol. Happy I'm seeing it again at 2. Stil very happy I saw it last night. Movie was just perfect in so many ways, I actually found the pacing better than the Batman movies oddly enough.

 

[Nemesis121]

Yeah.

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Mark Ruffalo is best Hulk. Sorry Ang Lee.

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For everyone that keeps saying this, you also need to remember the first 2 Hulk movies built the Banner/Hulk character, Mark only needed to play the part of a man dealing with his inner demon, Ang Lee was the beginning, Norton was him trying to find a cure, and Mark was about him controlling it....

 

[Exterminieren]

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I actually liked how stark and hulk were the only two that weren't at each others throats the second they met each other. It makes the hulk save at the end all the more meaningful because he actually gives a shit about him

Downey and Ruffalo worked very well together.

Yeah.

Were it up to me, I'd write Banner into Iron Man 3. He doesn't even necessarily need to Hulk out at any point, but Banner and Stark's bromance was good stuff to watch.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

For everyone that keeps saying this, you also need to remember the first 2 Hulk movies built the Banner/Hulk character, Mark only need to play the part of a man dealing with his inner demon, Ang Lee was the beginning, Norton was him trying to find a cure, and Mark was about him controlling it....

Agree on all counts, but the look and feel of Bruce Banner is perfected by Ruffalo. That does not mean that the previous two movies or actors were by any means bad. I loved them all but this is more fresh in my head and thus I love it more i guess.

And yet, had those first movies been non-existent, Ruffalo still would've played him excellently.

That is true as well.

 

[ScreenSplitter]

For everyone that keeps saying this, you also need to remember the first 2 Hulk movies built the Banner/Hulk character, Mark only needed to play the part of a man dealing with his inner demon, Ang Lee was the beginning, Norton was him trying to find a cure, and Mark was about him controlling it....

And yet, had those first movies been non-existent, Ruffalo still would've played him excellently.

 

[Diprosalic]

Marvel got the crap end of that deal. I read somewhere they only made $23 million off the X-Men movies, even though those movies have made tons of money.

i struggle to see the crap end of the deal here. they got a risk free 23 million dollar, free advertising for their comics and if the movie is successful it significantly raises the value of their property. they were a small company then.

 

[LOCK]

Watched this on IMAX yesterday, and was really blown away. Loved almost everything. But this did affirm my belief that it is better to watch a movie during the week when the theaters are not as crowded.

My favorite Avenger: Hulk. I think he just won America, and his next movie will do substantially better than the previous ones.

 

[Raitosaito]

So are you saying if Spectacular Spider-Man didn't exist this year, there's a possibility the rights would have reverted?

That's just with X-men.

Spiderman I think Sony/Columbia own the rights completely for the films.

 

[vareon]

Now that I think about it, Fury's statements about

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the Avengers was once cancelled, and that he took a great risk in putting a bunch of superheroes into one team

was pretty meta.

 

[duckroll]

For everyone that keeps saying this, you also need to remember the first 2 Hulk movies built the Banner/Hulk character, Mark only needed to play the part of a man dealing with his inner demon, Ang Lee was the beginning, Norton was him trying to find a cure, and Mark was about him controlling it....

I like how two of the Hulks are linked to the actors playing Banner, but the first one is just "Ang Lee". Lol. Poor Bana.

 

[Rentahamster]

Pretty decent movie, I missed the end-credits scene, though, since I thought the mid-credits scene was the only one.

Now please bring back Firefly Joss

<3

 

[Binabik15]

I want to see this again, but I don`t want to spend another 25€ for train tickets and the cinema. I guess I'll rewatch Iron Man 1.

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Which is fine, too, since I want to Hulk smash Gwyneth Paltrow so baaad.

 

[JB1981]

it wasnt just the script, horrible casting, horrible budgeting of the special effects. they spent all the money on that horrible looking suit. wasted money on that ugly hot wheels scene. blake lively is ugly. the movie just fails in every way. stupid ass antagnoist, and when it comes to super hero movies origin stories are the fucking easiest and they managed to fail on that.

Did u just say Blake lively is ugly ?

 

[soundscream]

I like how two of the Hulks are linked to the actors playing Banner, but the first one is just "Ang Lee". Lol. Poor Bana.

When I think of that movie the first two things that pop up in my head are 1) the intreasting editing through the use of comic panels and 2) how bat shit insane it was at times.

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That scene between Nolte and Bana in the warehouse was kinda out there, and then it's topped off by Nolte going all rodent style on that electrical wire.

 

[Funky Papa]

I've never been a fan of Gwyneth Paltrow, but that red hair and that Marvel sass... ZOMG.

 

[JB1981]

So, after all the hoopla, is this movie going to out-gross the dark knight?

Yes

 

[MrPink93485]

Yes

Let's not get carried away here....it doesn't have the major benefit of summer weekdays, so probably not. But it will certainly get a lot closer than anyone would have expected it to.

 

[Fry]

Bought my tickets online, finally going today. Hopefully I'll find a good seat, I'll probably leave home 3 hours before the movie starts.

 

[duckroll]

Let's not get carried away here....it doesn't have the major benefit of summer weekdays, so probably not. But it will certainly get a lot closer than anyone would have expected it to.

Avengers will totally outgross TDKR worldwide. Domestic is up for debate I guess.

 

[MrPink93485]

Avengers will totally outgross TDKR worldwide. Domestic is up for debate I guess.

I was thinking just TDK from a domestic standpoint....but TDKR?

Depends on how the movie is. I have no doubt in my mind domestically the film will probably break TA's OW, from there it depends on whether Nolan was able to pull it off, if it's disappointing, then Avengers will outgross it, but if TDKR is say, of similar quality to the previous two, I'm guessing TDKR wins that battle domestically. Worldwide, I have no idea what to expect from TDKR considering how much has changed since 2008.

 

[JB1981]

Let's not get carried away here....it doesn't have the major benefit of summer weekdays, so probably not. But it will certainly get a lot closer than anyone would have expected it to.

We'll see. The movie is a rollicking good time and will have very positive word of mouth. TDKR seems so somber and high brow by comparison. The audience I saw this movie with was having an absolute blast.

Edit: when I quoted the post I thought he was referencing TDKR.

 

[KevinCow]

That's just with X-men.

Spiderman I think Sony/Columbia own the rights completely for the films.

No, Spider-Man has the same deal. If they don't make a movie, Marvel gets the rights back. That's why they fast-tracked this reboot after Raimi and Maguire dropped out.

 

[MrPink93485]

We'll see. The movie is a rollicking good time and will have very positive word of mouth. TDKR seems so somber and high brow by comparison. The audience I saw this movie with was having an absolute blast.

No doubt, but somehow The Dark Knight got phenomenal legs despite its dark subject material, part of that due to timing, part of that due to its quality. It certainly might not be as 'fun' but as I said, if Nolan pulls it off with TDKR (I'm not convinced on this), the audience will react in different ways, yet possibly just as effective as the Avengers.

 

[Nemesis121]

Bought my tickets online, finally going today. Hopefully I'll find a good seat, I'll probably leave home 3 hours before the movie starts.

Go early, I went to the 1:15 showing yesterday and the fucking line to get into movie was CRAZY long, just happy we got there 50 mins before the movie... otherwise it would have been shit seats.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

I've never been a fan of Gwyneth Paltrow, but that red hair and that Marvel sass... ZOMG.

And the chemistry between her and RDJ is just fantastic, and makes her hotter. Not a Paltrow fan myself either, Funky Papa. But she is hot as Pepper Potts.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Avengers will totally outgross TDKR worldwide. Domestic is up for debate I guess.

Still think TDKR will outpeform The Avengers.

 

[Manmademan]

Still think TDKR will outpeform The Avengers.

Domestic is possible, but worldwide? Not a chance.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Domestic is possible, but worldwide? Not a chance.

Worldwide. I'm calling it.

 

[mrkgoo]

My main bummer is

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not seeing Captain America pick up and wield Thor's hammer. That would have been an epic moment. Just imagine Thor's surprise, or if it were used as an epic moment at the climax.

 

[Daft_Cat]

Hmm. This debate sounds a lot like the Iron Man vs. TDK showdown of 2008.

I still think TDKR out-grosses The Avengers worldwide; very little doubt. Domestic is pretty much a guarantee, and the international market is so much bigger now that The Avengers success in comparison to TDK might be a bit misleading. I bet the money Avengers is making per screen is around the same as TDK. TDKR may look more "high-brow" than The Avengers, but the hype definitely plays to a mass audience, just like TDK and Inception did.


I'll be the first to eat crow if I'm wrong, though.

 

[duckroll]

Still think TDKR will outpeform The Avengers.

I think ultimately that depends on how the WOM is for TDKR. If the movie isn't 50 times more than what the trailers suggest it is, I don't think it has a chance.

 

[JB1981]

And the chemistry between her and RDJ is just fantastic, and makes her hotter. Not a Paltrow fan myself either, Funky Papa. But she is hot as Pepper Potts.

She really is. Loved seeing her walking around in her jean shorts

Edit: fucking iPhone

 

[Manmademan]

My main bummer is

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not seeing Captain America pick up and wield Thor's hammer. That would have been an epic moment. Just imagine Thor's surprise, or if it were used as an epic moment at the climax.

Hmm...maybe for a future movie. Cap doesn't really have the history or feats to back this up yet, and Thor hasn't really been established enough to emphasise what a big deal this is

 

[Yocke]

Pretty decent movie, I missed the end-credits scene, though, since I thought the mid-credits scene was the only one.

Now please bring back Firefly Joss

<3

What's the post credits scene? I also thought the mid credits scene was the last one.

 

[Fry]

Go early, I went to the 1:15 showing yesterday and the fucking line to get into movie was CRAZY long, just happy we got there 50 mins before the movie... otherwise it would have been shit seats.

Yeah, can't have that. Shitty seats are my worst nightmare.

 

[Nemesis121]

While I love seeing all those wonderful ass shots of Scarlett, I was loving Hill when ever she got some screen time she is hot too...

 

[PhoncipleBone]

My main bummer is

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not seeing Captain America pick up and wield Thor's hammer. That would have been an epic moment. Just imagine Thor's surprise, or if it were used as an epic moment at the climax.

Hmm...maybe for a future movie. Cap doesn't really have the history or feats to back this up yet, and Thor hasn't really been established enough to emphasise what a big deal this is

Save that as the big moment in the sequel.

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Have Cap be the last man standing against Thanos, just like the comics. But his last desperate act is to grab the hammer, and he miraculously lifts it and gives Thanos the final blow. Why would Cap hit him harder than Thor with the hammer? I don't know. But it would be an audience rousing moment, and further cement Cap's baddassness.