Haha I own the Flame Red 3DS as well! Red contrasting with white and black seems like Ninty's primary colors. It would be instantly recognizable in a store as opposed to the dozens of monochromatic devices out there.
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Haha I own the Flame Red 3DS as well! Red contrasting with white and black seems like Ninty's primary colors. It would be instantly recognizable in a store as opposed to the dozens of monochromatic devices out there.
Mr. MondayNight
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We will get boned again by the third parties who will try to usee the Nintendo fans to be profitable while not giving us the main titles...
Ubisoft talking about Beyond Good & Evil 2 and Sega talking about Racing games.
(Sources)
BG&E
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37570831&postcount=1
Sega
http://www.edge-online.com/news/sumo-racing-genre-needs-new-hardware
Smiles and Cries
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Rösti;37582644 said:Remember these?
THAT SHIT IS JUST EVIL!!!
Nintendo needs to stop doing this at E3
it will be so painful to see multi-colors of WiiU's at E3
just like that Purple Pimp 3DS keeps haunting me
Red Nintendo is best Nintendo
If they try it again, then they can continue to, umm.., struggle, one by one. Let's see how that works out for 'em this time.
(this gif is a pretty good summation of my love/hate feelings towards third parties in general..)
"Hey fans! We're gonna tease you with these colors and then not deliver until later in the generation - if at all! Enjoy!"Rösti;37582644 said:Remember these?
(sorry.. now when I see stuff like that, I get a bit peeved..)
The more I think about it based on my experience with different colored handheld devices I think black may be best simply for the optical illusions of the screen appearing to be bigger, brighter, and crisper.
While I loved the look of my red DS it made the colors look off and the screen appear smaller to me.
I don't have time to put video game screenshot in various borders so let these suffice for now:
http://www.jimloy.com/puzz/illusion.htm
http://www.colormaniacs.com/hi_tech_hues.htm
http://condor.depaul.edu/jchoplin/research/PerceptualComparisons.html
bgassassin
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It seems to have a pretty quick response though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M1RiibBowM
Sorry, I meant your silver version (console, game box, and controller) but making it black. I felt silver would be my third choice of a color, but like you after seeing that it doesn't work as well, while the silver console by itself looks good. So I was hoping to see a black version from the same perspective to see if it still holds up. If that's ok with you.
bgassassin
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Interesting point. I've always felt it was strange that the image seemed better on screens with black bezels, but never really understood why.
Expanding on the silver motif, how would you guys and gals like it if nintendo shifted from the white looking hardware and general designs to this:
Honestly, now that i'm looking at it, i think i prefer white lol.
But there you have it.
I got the LE platinum GC so I would definetly be down for that.
Mr. MondayNight
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Purple 3DS is being released in North America on I think the 20th of this month.
Flame Red for my 3DS as well, love it.
ColdBlooder
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I don´t have any hopes for a "flame red Wii U" on launchday though. Would match the 3DS so well...
Yeah, I think it will be quite a while before there are any alternate colors to white. That kinda sucks but I'm certainly not going to wait, so white it is.
If the next Mario isn't 1080p with fairily good AA at 60FPS you may have my first born child EC.
ColdBlooder
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If Iwata would announce that "Wii U will launch in all colors currently available for the 3DS" then i would fall off my chair and would be twitching on the ground due to hype overload.
If Iwata would announce that "Wii U will launch in all colors currently available for the 3DS" then i would fall off my chair and would be twitching on the ground due to hype overload.
Same. I am so convinced that there will only be one color that I would flip if they announced multi.
Mr. MondayNight
Member
If they try it again, then they can continue to, umm.., struggle, one by one. Let's see how that works out for 'em this time.
(this gif is a pretty good summation of my love/hate feelings towards third parties in general..)
Yea if I see them pulling that bull like they did this gen I'm done with third parties I'll stick to Nintendo.
bgassassin
Member
Unless certain things have improved, I wouldn't make that bet if I were you.
Sorry, I meant your silver version (console, game box, and controller) but making it black. I felt silver would be my third choice of a color, but like you after seeing that it doesn't work as well, while the silver console by itself looks good. So I was hoping to see a black version from the same perspective to see if it still holds up. If that's ok with you.
hmm, the controller looks iffy (my fault), but i kinda like it.
Blue and black works rather well for the game box IMO
>__> but I want my 1080p Mario. Can they not just recycle the galaxy engine?
bgassassin
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Thunder Monkey
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Slightly improved from SMG level models and appropriate shader stuff shouldn't be too huge of a hassle. EADTokyo is great with tech, but they aren't exactly bad designers. They'll use where appropriate, and if 1080p, 60fps, and AA are a focus they'll design the game under those limitations. They made a Wii game look "next-gen" they'll be able to make a WiiU game look incredible under whatever constraints exist.
I'm not sure if it will be a focus, but if it is, it'll happen and it will look awesome.
I'm not the type to bet though. And firstborns are valuable because you never know if you'll have another.
ColdBlooder
Banned
When it comes to color, i think Nintendo unterestimates the demand for different colors. Alot of people would like their console to match their 3DS color...
Yeah, and a lot of people get bugged with the colors of everything in their entertainment center, or just the way the room looks. I also think Nintendo fans in particular are the types to get into stuff like colors. I do remember Iwata or Miyamoto saying when the Wii launched that their studies showed your better off just releasing white as it's the safest bet or something, so I'm sure that means no multi till a year+.
bgassassin
Member
The engine wouldn't really be the issue. But if you were making a new SMG game exactly as it was for Wii, just with those additions you should be able to pull it off. But I would hope they would improve the texture quality as well. But like I've mentioned before my knowledge on Wii U was more in a "final" context and what the final is going for (at least at that time) wasn't 1080p/60 w/AA.
Right, but the possible hardware constraints don't reach that level.
woah, woah- u better not let Rumplestiltskin hear that...
invaderzim69
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They could just call it the SubCon (the alt universe in Super Mario Bros. 2 - the land of dreams). Would fit in quite well
OK this gets my vote
Betta Lines
Member
I hope the controller design isn't final. I remember the Wii Remote changed before launch.
The initial press shots showed a rectangular power button, no speaker, and a massive nunchuk connector...
Hopefully they can make some refinements... the Wii U controller could well be comfortable, but it just doesn't look cool enough. Trouble is, that Wii Remote prototype looks cooler than the final version (huge connector aside)... so maybe it'll get worse...
The initial press shots showed a rectangular power button, no speaker, and a massive nunchuk connector...
Hopefully they can make some refinements... the Wii U controller could well be comfortable, but it just doesn't look cool enough. Trouble is, that Wii Remote prototype looks cooler than the final version (huge connector aside)... so maybe it'll get worse...
Even still, I wouldn't expect a Mario game to be very graphically adept. The artstyle of such a game would carry the visuals far enough to compensate for gpu intensive effects which would give EAD much need breathing room, correct? Eh, no matter, you're in a position to be a much better judge than I. I'm sure we shall see what happens in the coming months.
Shadow Hog
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Well, we got red, black and white before they redesigned the console outright...Rösti;37582644 said:Remember these?
Greeeeeen
Christberg
Member
If it's EAD Tokyo, expect nothing less than a graphical showpiece. The Mario Galaxy games are absolute marvels given what they're running on.
Unless we're talking NSMB here, totally 1080P with 4X FSAA all the way.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
For 3D Mario, I think Nintendo's focus is on performance, not super minimalist graphics for maximum clarity and performance (this has been the focus of Mario Kart). Galaxy 3, or whatever Nintendo is cooking, will probably perform similarly to Galaxy and at 720p. And it will, of course, make crazy good use of the hardware available for really big things.
I hate to say stuff that might come across as snide and condescending, but Nintendo-only gamers who don't buy other systems really wont know what hits them when it comes to the Wii U. It's a scary awesome new world for Nintendo's IPs and pretty exciting. If they deliver game engines and assets that make excellent use of the hardware, you're going to see Metroids, Marios, Zeldas and more looking like nothing you've seen before.
I'm curious to see how NSMB Mii ends up looking. As much as I hate the art direction, I don't expect it to look like last year's demo. That was using assets ripped straight from NSMB Wii. It would be tremendously disappointing if that's how the game looked, and it ran at 720p with no anti-aliasing :/.
I hate to say stuff that might come across as snide and condescending, but Nintendo-only gamers who don't buy other systems really wont know what hits them when it comes to the Wii U. It's a scary awesome new world for Nintendo's IPs and pretty exciting. If they deliver game engines and assets that make excellent use of the hardware, you're going to see Metroids, Marios, Zeldas and more looking like nothing you've seen before.
I'm curious to see how NSMB Mii ends up looking. As much as I hate the art direction, I don't expect it to look like last year's demo. That was using assets ripped straight from NSMB Wii. It would be tremendously disappointing if that's how the game looked, and it ran at 720p with no anti-aliasing :/.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
I still think we'll see a WiiU redesign at E3 theres more chance of that than the controller being changed.
ViewtifulJC
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I think this is the first E3 where Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are all in the same hallway
Considering Nintendo said the shell we saw at E3 was a prototype, a redesign is more than likely.
IsntChrisL
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Rösti;37582644 said:Remember these?
Nintendo was so wrong for that... They come out with a black console and tease more colors. One year later the damn thing is white (thanks a lot Apple) and that's all it would be for years. I was hoping they would have changed their approach with the Wii U but here we are...
GameplayWhore
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I was Nintendo only this gen. I played plenty of 360 games at a friend's place, but he has an SD TV usually covered in a thick coat of dust, and doesn't really play the visually best games (it's basically been wrasslers and RE5), so I will probably get something in the way if a surprisejolt.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Yea I think people are really underestimating the level of visual quality to be seen with this new hardware with Nintendo IPs. Third parties will look like third party games but Nintendo first party titles are usually always on another level when it comes to taking advantage of the hardware.
Oh good they said it was a shell..I mean the WiiU we see now it looks alright but it just looks too damn boring looking.
shadyspace
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So how much bigger of a jump from the Wii is the Wii U compared to how big of a jump the Wii was from the GCN? I assume it's substanial.
-Pyromaniac-
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I've said similar things as EC. I think a common mistake is to assume that Nintendo games in HD will look like dolphin games, which isn't true at all.
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