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DragonSworne
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Zelda needs to be cyber steam punk set in a futuristic classical era drawn in an anime style and look realistic.
walking fiend
Member
Everytime I see Zelda WiiU tech, I wonder how people can say it is already done this gen with a straight face...
lol, exactly!
I WANT a Zelda with the same style of that tech-demo... It is simply amazing... All the details, the lightling... Imagine a full game like that. I hope that they don't make a cell-shaded Zelda and they do something like that demo. And if it was a launch title, WiiU would sell like candy.
Just look at that... Magic
Just look at that... Magic
Link is a pimp, biggest wind sock in the world.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
And thats why E3 is gonna be the shit.I'm pretty blown away how games like Dark Souls looks for an open world game with tons of things going on in the world. Even skyrim looks quite good, not as much stuff going on in it to me but still looks great. I use those as examples because they're open world and still manage to look great. Now imagine what a game like Mario could potentially look like...which isn't really open world and has a console that is stronger than last generation...
....it was a trick question. You can't picture it. No one can
walking fiend
Member
You, what is truly sigh worthy, is that journalist and critics and core gamer have already decided that WiiU is totally underpowered and that Zelda demo is nothing special at all
so when it comes out, people will just say 'meh'
Christberg
Member
My thoughts on the next Mario is that if you upscaled Galaxy to 720P with some AA and clean up the textures a but it'd look as good as it'd ever need to in stills. It doesn't particularly need highly detailed environments or tons of enemies either. In fact, I'd argue those things would actually detract from the experience.
They can still improve on the game a bunch with a good global illumination engine and significantly improved physics though.
Off the top of my head:
A snow level where you roll up big snowballs and roll them downhill or throw them off cliffs to solve puzzles or defeat enemies. Have realistic ground deformation as a key part of getting around too.
A level where you have to escape a castle being torn apart by Giga Bowser.
Light puzzles where you have to trap/corner a ghost to collect keys.
So yeah, if you can't tell I'm really looking forward to the next 3D Mario title.
I want a "new" Zelda in the style of AttP aka four swords adventures with full online integration.
DragonSworne
Banned
No tech demos, just Samaritan running on WiiU.
I honestly believe they will only show launch titles and launch window games.
I do believe Zelda will be shown because the team as been working on a new title for a while.
I'm saying they go real. I said it in the last thread, Nintendo should have enough first-part, and third-party games to show off and talk about, that will be released by the Q4 of 2013, or something has gone wrong.
Since this is a very tradition-bound thread
This looks beautiful. I'm super excited to finally play a Zelda game in HD. E3 2014 can't come any sooner.
Just look at that... Magic
hope they try to include some interesting cut scenes in the next zelda.
to me, that demo is really wonderful, graphically speaking.
I don't LOVE the style (just because it very similar to TP, that was good, but it's not new), but I like what I see.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Yea I can see that having an effect like castle crashers. co-op goodness.
Yes! Finally someone posts what I posted forever ago. I said we need a Four Swords type game, that's online capable, their are a lot of people that love Nintendo franchises, but are obsessed with online games, Nintendo needs to combine the two. Don't ruin the main-line games, but a Four Swords spin off Zelda would attract more people then a lot realize.
I can just picture my brother, who I rarely see, and who has abandoned Nintendo since online gaming became popular, totally buying a Wii U just so he could play a Zelda game online with me. There are a lot of people that love Nintendo, but couldn't stand how slow they were with getting into online gaming, if Nintendo could use some of their name franchises to bring back fallen Nintendo fans, they should do it.
A lot of people say Nintendo needs to go after the "dudebros" who hate waggle, but in my opinion their most likely not going to all the sudden be Nintendo guys no matter what. Nintendo is best off going after old Nintendo fans, that loved Nintendo when they were young and still have love for Nintendo IP's. An online version of Four Swords would do really well, even though I bet a lot of people won't expect it.
It's a very level headed article, but it still veers a bit to close to rationalizing the console as something "current gen" than its own thing. The notes about its size reflecting what's possible (citing Xbox 360 S as the upper echelon in thermal design and talking about Moore's Law dictating GPU progress without considering that within that same thermal limit, something can be designed that would be clearly superior to said console) leads me to think that to some folks, GPU prowess and progress in design is only apparent when we look at the top bench stuff.
At least it agrees on the "Nintendo gonna Nintendo" line of thought, that's about the biggest truth in all of this.
I'm saying E3 2013, with a late 2014 launch. You have the safe, and likely right prediction, but I think Nintendo will go after E3 2013, because of Microsoft and Sony next-gen.
As long as it's a Wii U shop or 3DS eShop title developed by someone other than the main team, then I wouldn't mind. I'd rather have the main team focus on a full fledged Zelda title.
I have a feeling that they're going to show a 3D Mario title next E3, so I'm not expecting a Zelda title just yet. I would love for them to surprise me next E3.
The idea of a Zelda or Mario game at a visual level above the 360's capabilities blows my mind a bit. I'm not sure I'd want or need much more, to be honest..
We're gonna be blown-away..
We've waited for this our whole HD lives my friend. It's going to be amazing.
shadyspace
Banned
We're gonna see a new Zelda this E3. Good enough for me.
Like I said above, don't mess with the main-line series, just do a spin-off. If it happened it would be a full retail release though, and sales would reflect that.
If Nintendo goes for the jugular, they're gonna make me tear-up. Evil mo-fos.
3DS Zelda, yeah it has to show up this E3, I think.
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Rösti
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Hmm, Pachter's rant on Wii U's hardware coming up in about 50 minutes. I'll watch it to see if my predictions of him proclaiming the Wii U to be technically inferior to Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 are true. Won't be part of any threads about this though.
Wii U according to Pachter?
I captured that image from an old Doom 95 shareware demo I found on Id Software's FTP server: ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom/win95/doom95.zip
Wii U according to Pachter?
I captured that image from an old Doom 95 shareware demo I found on Id Software's FTP server: ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom/win95/doom95.zip
Something along the same lines as the Four Swords on the 3DS with online integration and a bit more challenge would be our best bet. I think it would be pretty fun to play with friends. I haven't played any Four Swords titles before, so this will be pretty interesting if done right.
My wallet is ready.
Rösti;37586760 said:Hmm, Pachter's rant on Wii U's hardware coming up in about 50 minutes. I'll watch it to see if my predictions of him proclaiming the Wii U to be technically inferior to Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 are true. Won't be part of any threads about this though.
Wii U according to Pachter?
Where can I watch this? On Gametrailers?
ColdBlooder
Banned
I am expecting a 3D mario in some way at this E3. Because they HAVE to deliver no matter what. Even if its just a 20 sec trailer or just screenshots. Just for the "Shock and Awe" and to tease us
Then it will be radio silence with a tidbit at TGS and a full reveal and playable demo at E3 2013. Release would be holyday 2013, when the competition release their consoles!AceBandage
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Rösti;37586760 said:Hmm, Pachter's rant on Wii U's hardware coming up in about 50 minutes. I'll watch it to see if my predictions of him proclaiming the Wii U to be technically inferior to Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 are true. Won't be part of any threads about this though.
Wii U according to Pachter?
I captured that image from an old Doom 95 shareware demo I found on Id Software's FTP server: ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom/win95/doom95.zip
No thanks.
test_account
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Purely techincal speaking, havnt people analyzed that Zelda tech demo and says that it isnt as impressive technical as it might look? Regardless of that though, it looks great.
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Rösti
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Yes, on GameTrailers. Search Pach-Attack!.
If it's anything like their 2006 E3 we just might. I'm thinking that they may possibly hold off showing it until next E3 to offset MS and Sony's console reveals, but who knows. I think NSMB, Pikmin 3, possibly Retro's game and whatever else they have cooked up *cough*ED2*cough* will be enough for me.I am expecting a 3D mario in some way at this E3. Because they HAVE to deliver no matter what. Even if its just a 20 sec trailer or just screenshots. Just for the "Shock and Awe" and to tease us
Rösti;37586851 said:
Thanks.
walking fiend
Member
well, I have a very simple mind; if someone think this is possible, just show me a game looking as good.
I suppose, what they mean, is that the tech is possible; or probably there are games with textures on par, models on par, etc., but I the point is the demo had all of them together,
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someone posted on one of the early threads some videos of Castlevania as superior lighting;
Then I just grabbed the video, turned the brightness higher and show how terrible the textures and models in those scene were; basically it was a very good art direction and use of light in a night scene which enabled hiding the much lower quality parts.
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and what is even more interesting, is that people conveniently just forget about the bird demo. We know that Zelda was internally developed, and I am pretty sure people at Nintendo are definitely not on par with those who are making impressive use of tech in studios such as Epic
ColdBlooder
Banned
Has anyone big enough balls to sent Pachter my insane E3 prediction?
I dare anyone to to it
I dare anyone to to it
Yeah 3DS would be nice, and I played GC/GBA Four Swords and it was fun, even single-player had some good moments, as it had traditional Zelda game-play. I think a Wii U version would make sense though, I mean they did release it on a home console before, and the GC-GBA thing was essentially old Wii U style, so I could seem them just expanding it.
Like I said in my original post about it I think games like this would help show off Nintendo's commitment to having proper online console gaming, and if your going to try to show that it needs to be done on a home console, because it's their IP, third-parties are going to be better with online gaming, but Nintendo doing it even on a spin-off game would have some shock value to it.
I just thinking having a game with Zelda in the title, that goes online even if it's obviously not part of the main series would perk up a few antennas, that's what I like about it. A 3DS version would be fun, but a Wii U version could get some buzz, that's what I like about the idea.
So, I'm not alone, you expect Eternal Darkness 2 as well
One promising thing on this front is the extent to which Nintendo's been hiring over the past few years, which means they should now have quite a contingent of people on staff who've developed on XBox360 and PS3 and should be able to dive straight into a shader-based architecture like Wii U's. Plus the internal studios at least will have had a good idea of the Wii U's architecture for over 2 years by the time the console launches, so I hold out hope that they'll have some technically impressive launch titles (as I certainly don't expect any third parties to).
Personally, I think they can do this with any of their titles including NSMB. I'd be amazed if they actually have an online mode for NSMB.
I think quite a few people here are expecting this after all the hint Denis Dyack's been giving out. I won't be disappointed if it's not shown but I'm expecting it.
As far as I know they've only been hiring through Retro. Who else did they pick up for their other studios?
bgassassin
Member
Don't get me wrong as it should definitely be a beautiful looking game. Take that as more of an indication of overall performance.
As much if not bigger than the jump from PS2 to PS3.
Is impossible for Nintendo to top the 360 on a sub 100W box. Ah, Btw, the iPhone 5S will totally blowout the 360 (and Wii U) on a sub 1W budget next year!
Nintendo have been hiring quite extensively in their Japanese studios. We just don't have LinkedIn profiles to tell us who they've been hiring, so it doesn't get brought up much.
That sounds like the best comparison I've heard. Wii to Wii U is one of the biggest leaps of all time.
AceBandage
Banned
We also know that NST has been picking up people (including Sonic's co-creator)
Sweet. Never knew this until now.
I've heard about that. Wonder what NST got brewing.
Naked Prime
Member
I might not mind if a Zelda was episodic and released in chunks on the e-shop, to keep the franchise fresh on peoples minds until a full fledged one is released. Nintendo could get a team at capcom to develop it. Just imagine Hyrule in an updated MT Framework 2.x
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