Marvel's The Avengers |OT| (Dir. Joss Whedon) [Spoilers unmarked]

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Why'd that cube-machine guy put in "a fail safe in Loki's sceptor" at all I wonder? Was that meant to imply that Loki would have wanted an emergency shutdown, or that the guy that was under control had some of his conscious mind still active when he was under control?

I thought it meant he still had some of his conscious mind.
 
Why'd that cube-machine guy put in "a fail safe in Loki's sceptor" at all I wonder? Was that meant to imply that Loki would have wanted an emergency shutdown, or that the guy that was under control had some of his conscious mind still active when he was under control?

I think he had some control I guess. Maybe he needs to re-poke his peeps every so often.
 
Why'd that cube-machine guy put in "a fail safe in Loki's sceptor" at all I wonder? Was that meant to imply that Loki would have wanted an emergency shutdown, or that the guy that was under control had some of his conscious mind still active when he was under control?

yea, iirc, he had a lil bit of control so he added the failsafe to it without Loki knowing.
 
he could have a batman style ship that drops "add ons" if he needs em. something like the Mark VII equip - have something shoot out of the stark building and connect with the suit. then it transforms into a HUGE gun.

awesome.

I was kind of hoping we would get a GAMMA CRUSH from Hulk. Proton Cannon would be the hypest thing put on film though, lol.
 
Large radius blast that could do more damage to the surroundings than they wanted to. Captain America and Thor seemed kind of stunned afterward as well, well maybe Thor just was because isn't Caps shield supposed to negate all vibration?

That was when the two of them were fighting right? It did visible damage to the suit enough that doing such a thing wouldn't be too wise.

Yeah the reasoning why they didn't try it again makes perfect sense. But usually, when something like that happens early in the movie, they re-introduce it at the climax.

Examples:
- don't cross the streams
- hey here's a flyer to save this clocktower that was struck by lightning at exactly this time in 1955
- legends says that someone once flew that giant red flying dragon thing that terrorized you earlier in the movie
- Pepper, throw away that old version of my arc reactor heart stabilizer. This new one is way better and there's no chance someone will steal it out of my chest which will require me to use the old one.
 
Yeah the reasoning why they didn't try it again makes perfect sense. But usually, when something like that happens early in the movie, they re-introduce it at the climax.

Examples:
- don't cross the streams
- hey here's a flyer to save this clocktower that was struck by lightning at exactly this time in 1955
- legends says that someone once flew that giant red flying dragon thing that terrorized you earlier in the movie
- Pepper, throw away that old version of my arc reactor heart stabilizer. This new one is way better and there's no chance someone will steal it out of my chest which will require me to use the old one.
The best example is quite likely the one found in Iron Man 2... "you wanna be a War Machine?"
 
I thought it meant he still had some of his conscious mind.

That's how I took it too. Also, brain-hijacked Hawkeye, the man with perfect aim, shoots Fury in the vest instead of the head.

I was kind of hoping we would get a GAMMA CRUSH from Hulk. Proton Cannon would be the hypest thing put on film though, lol.

I want just about every hyper in MvC3 to show up in Marvel.
- ant man on Hawkeye's bow
- hulk jumping into outer space, grabbing an asteroid and coming down on the villain with it
- IRON AVENGER
 
I want just about every hyper in MvC3 to show up in Marvel.
- ant man on Hawkeye's bow
- hulk jumping into outer space, grabbing an asteroid and coming down on the villain with it
- IRON AVENGER

Not before we see RR do some hypers in GotG.

LOG TRAP LOG TRAP LOG TRAP LOG TRAP LOG TRAP

YA WANKER
 
...and that's with you guys being lukewarm on it? Whoa?

There's just lots of problems in the film, especially for those not previously fans of the Marvel Universe. I can see why everyone else loves it, but I've already talked about it in this thread and don't want to stir up more shit. I've learned my lesson.
 
That's how I took it too. Also, brain-hijacked Hawkeye, the man with perfect aim, shoots Fury in the vest instead of the head.



I want just about every hyper in MvC3 to show up in Marvel.
- ant man on Hawkeye's bow
- hulk jumping into outer space, grabbing an asteroid and coming down on the villain with it
- IRON AVENGER

Personally, I need to hear, "LET'S BRING IT!" coming from Nova's mouth. :D
 
That's how I took it too. Also, brain-hijacked Hawkeye, the man with perfect aim, shoots Fury in the vest instead of the head.



I want just about every hyper in MvC3 to show up in Marvel.
- ant man on Hawkeye's bow
- hulk jumping into outer space, grabbing an asteroid and coming down on the villain with it
- IRON AVENGER

i think we got iron avenger, just broken into 2 scenes
 
Yeah the reasoning why they didn't try it again makes perfect sense. But usually, when something like that happens early in the movie, they re-introduce it at the climax.

Examples:
- don't cross the streams
- hey here's a flyer to save this clocktower that was struck by lightning at exactly this time in 1955
- legends says that someone once flew that giant red flying dragon thing that terrorized you earlier in the movie
- Pepper, throw away that old version of my arc reactor heart stabilizer. This new one is way better and there's no chance someone will steal it out of my chest which will require me to use the old one.

And thank god they didn't fall back on something so overdone. Pleasant surprise.
 
All that hero interplay during the Cap vs. Thor vs. Iron Man scene was just fan-service as far as I could tell.
 
So this movie was awesome. I went to see it in IMAX 3D with my GF and her friend, and all three of us LOVED it. Im surprised that they loved it, hell Im surprised I loved it, the trailers gave me bad vibes. Speaking of love, I should mention the entire theater I went to loved it, and that it was entirely sold out. Wow.

Did I mention I loved it? Yes? Well how about the Hulk was awesome? Cause he was.

Also, I owe and apology to ILM when saying the (Leviathan?) looked like something out of Transformers.. For one thing, it looked a lot more unique (with maybe a tad Gears of War, haha) but it was really cool. Also, I was glad the metal wasn't plain silver and had a slight green hue.

And yeah, this movie kicked ass. If anything, I would have liked to see the aliens for a bit longer, I couldn't really appreciate their design, and it looked pretty cool.

Also, I should mention I know virtually nothing about marvel comics, that said I felt like I always wanted this movie and just didn't know til I saw it.
 
All that hero interplay during the Cap vs. Thor vs. Iron Man scene was just fan-service as far as I could tell.
And it was also one of those scenes where Loki literally like, sat on a rock by himself, presumably because he wanted to go along for the ride, but none of the crazy avengers even thought "maybe he'll make a ghost of himself or escape or something". They kept just leaving him lying around.

Unless Loki is useless (though nearly impossible to harm) without the staff of doom, which I suppose might be the case. It just seemed a little odd, but I thought it was a fun movie though the middle dragged a bit.

And I really don't want to be the "real physics in a comic movie" guy, but what about Nick Fury jumping out of a moving helicopter, and Black Widow and Hawkeye surviving a crashing jet or whatever? They're not supposed to be superpowered as far as I know, and that was starting to border on Indiana Jones fridge territory.

(the crashing jet did not explode, which is in itself odd for action movies)
 
And it was also one of those scenes where Loki literally like, sat on a rock by himself, presumably because he wanted to go along for the ride, but none of the crazy avengers even thought "maybe he'll make a ghost of himself or escape or something". They kept just leaving him lying around.

Unless Loki is useless (though nearly impossible to harm) without the staff of doom, which I suppose might be the case.

He wanted to get caught.
 
I wish the Mark VII Iron Man had been something crazier than just a new suit with a fancy method of putting it on. It should have at least had some cool new capabilities.

If they had just copied the part from Ultimates where he uses the Iron Man 6 I wouldn't have complained.
 
One thing about this movie I was surprised about was the lack of events in the movie coming back in the climax, Chekov's gun style.

- Captain's Shield + Thor's Hammer = big explosion. But they don't use this ability during the giant alien invasion.

- Iron Man + Thor's Lightning = 400% energy capacity. When IM was running out of juice at the end, I expected Thor to give him a re-charge. That didn't happen either.

Not a negative, just something I noticed.

I expected both of these things too. They seemed incredibly telegraphed to me, and when they didn't show up I kinda scratched my head. Whedon must have had the same idea, so my guess these follow-up scenes were shot but edited out for time, which stinks.

I mentioned this earlier, but this thread is so huge:

IM was running out of juice just as he was trying to destroy an alien worm. He blew it up from the inside and got swarmed by alien foot soldiers when he fell to the ground. During this time, Fury contacts him and asks him to stop the nuclear missile that's about to detonate in two minutes. So he had no time to actually find Thor and receive a charge because he had to 1) find the bomb 2) direct it to the portal before it exploded
 
I cannot fathom how someone who loved Cap and MI4 doesn't like Avengers.

I liked The Avengers and I really enjoyed the last hour or so, don't get me wrong. Captain America is a much, much better film though. Read my earlier impression, but The Avengers has zero stakes and for a nearly 2 and half hour film, it's hard to get involved with it on more than just the basic popcorn level. I was hoping Whedon could come up with an interesting story, but he didn't. But, like I said, it's fun to see all these characters together and their exchanges are fun.
 
I wish the Mark VII Iron Man had been something crazier than just a new suit with a fancy method of putting it on. It should have at least had some cool new capabilities.

If they had just copied the part from Ultimates where he uses the Iron Man 6 I wouldn't have complained.

It looked like it had more boosters on it. Perhaps it's faster? Maybe the scatter missiles were new too.
 
Oh thank god I wasn't the only one wanting to see some MvC hypers go down, just ITCHING for that Gamma Crush. We got quite a few Gimlets out of Hawkeye, and just like in the game it hits behind him too :lol

Shane Black, if I ever get an Iron Avenger out of you, I'll have your children.

Avengers 2 should end with Thanos whipping a bubble at Cap and Cap saying NAH FUCK THAT, FINAL JUSTICE.
 
I like the idea of Captain America just casually picking Mjolnir up and passing it to Thor on their way out somewhere. As Steve walks out the room everybody just stares in disbelief like what the fuck was that?
 
I like the idea of Captain America just casually picking Mjolnir up and passing it to Thor on their way out somewhere. As Steve walks out the room everybody just stares in disbelief like what the fuck was that?

I never noticed that. :o
 
Oh thank god I wasn't the only one wanting to see some MvC hypers go down, just ITCHING for that Gamma Crush. We got quite a few Gimlets out of Hawkeye, and just like in the game it hits behind him too :lol

Shane Black, if I ever get an Iron Avenger out of you, I'll have your children.

Avengers 2 should end with Thanos whipping a bubble at Cap and Cap saying NAH FUCK THAT, FINAL JUSTICE.

Avengers vs Capcom 3.

Spoiler: Wesker gets X-Factor Level 3 GAMMA CRUSH'd
 
I wish the Mark VII Iron Man had been something crazier than just a new suit with a fancy method of putting it on. It should have at least had some cool new capabilities.

If they had just copied the part from Ultimates where he uses the Iron Man 6 I wouldn't have complained.
I believe they will elaborate on it in IM3. The Iron Man armor Avengers official app mentioned the latest revolution in the Mark VII armor had to do with magnetism IIRC. I remember asking in this thread if the bracelet had any significance because of such, and if it was magnetic or something.

Stark did say it wasn't ready yet, so maybe it has other features we haven't seen yet.
 
VERY SERIOUS QUESTION:

As a matter of fact, my wife noticed it. Why does Hulk SAVE Iron Man at the end? Doesn't he HATE everything? They built up a premise that he was 'uncontrollable', didn't explain how he could control it, yet he visibly was at the end. Didn't even attack Thor or Cap while Iron Man was down for the count.

Please, someone shed some light. It ruins the movie for me.
 
That's how I took it too. Also, brain-hijacked Hawkeye, the man with perfect aim, shoots Fury in the vest instead of the head.



I want just about every hyper in MvC3 to show up in Marvel.
- ant man on Hawkeye's bow
- hulk jumping into outer space, grabbing an asteroid and coming down on the villain with it
- IRON AVENGER

disappointed cap didnt use otg shield slash to extend his fight scenes
 
Why'd that cube-machine guy put in "a fail safe in Loki's sceptor" at all I wonder? Was that meant to imply that Loki would have wanted an emergency shutdown, or that the guy that was under control had some of his conscious mind still active when he was under control?

While i think it's fairly clear they were trying to say he still had come control over his mind, I think it would have been better if Loki had instructed him to build it into the machine in order to double cross the big guy...
 
I wish the Mark VII Iron Man had been something crazier than just a new suit with a fancy method of putting it on. It should have at least had some cool new capabilities.

If they had just copied the part from Ultimates where he uses the Iron Man 6 I wouldn't have complained.

Mark VII can actually tie into Iron Man 3 really well if they're basing it on Extremis. The whole suit up process takes too long and Mark VII was a solution Tony came up with. And it's still not good enough.

Or it just had more armaments with all those missiles and lasers. At least with the Mark VII he didn't dispense the cartridge after using that laser cutter move.
 
So was Loki under the control of Thanos/the Other...he looks like a wreck whenhe first appears, with noticeable swelling around his eyes
 
What was all that ledger stuff Black Widow kept talking about?

EDIT: About getting Red on it

"To be in the red" generally means you are in debt. All she was saying was that there was a lot of stuff from her past from before she was with SHIELD that she feels like she needs to make up for by doing good.
 
What was all that ledger stuff Black Widow kept talking about?

EDIT: About getting Red on it

When accountants write debits into financial ledgers they use red ink. "I have red in my ledger and I need to wipe it out" means she owes a debt to someone and wants to repay it. The implication is she's done a lot of bad shit, and she wants to do something heroic to make up for it.
 
Mark VII can actually tie into Iron Man 3 really well if they're basing it on Extremis. The whole suit up process takes too long and Mark VII was a solution Tony came up with. And it's still not good enough.
That's true. Not sure if I want to see a CG coccoon of flesh though.

Seeing Extremis Armor get put on on the silver screen... HNNNGGGHHH
 
VERY SERIOUS QUESTION:

As a matter of fact, my wife noticed it. Why does Hulk SAVE Iron Man at the end? Doesn't he HATE everything? They built up a premise that he was 'uncontrollable', didn't explain how he could control it, yet he visibly was at the end. Didn't even attack Thor or Cap while Iron Man was down for the count.

Please, someone shed some light. It ruins the movie for me.

The Hulk still has feelings.
 
I liked The Avengers and I really enjoyed the last hour or so, don't get me wrong. Captain America is a much, much better film though. Read my earlier impression, but The Avengers has zero stakes and for a nearly 2 and half hour film, it's hard to get involved with it on more than just the basic popcorn level. I was hoping Whedon could come up with an interesting story, but he didn't. But, like I said, it's fun to see all these characters together and their exchanges are fun.

Could you link to your impressions? Its a huge thread.

VERY SERIOUS QUESTION:

As a matter of fact, my wife noticed it. Why does Hulk SAVE Iron Man at the end? Doesn't he HATE everything? They built up a premise that he was 'uncontrollable', didn't explain how he could control it, yet he visibly was at the end. Didn't even attack Thor or Cap while Iron Man was down for the count.

Please, someone shed some light. It ruins the movie for me.
It seems he became more aware and in control.
 
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