Toronto-Age |OT2|

whitehawk said:
A few hours? What is this blasphemy. If you go to Wonderland, you must go at opening, and stay till closing.
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I remember when I was in high school going through the employee entrance and saying we were dropping one of our friends off for work then parking for free. It was also awesome getting all the food we wanted for the price of a small drink. I haven't been there in over 10 years. :(
 
whitehawk said:
A few hours? What is this blasphemy. If you go to Wonderland, you must go at opening, and stay till closing.
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I worked there for 8 Summers, I can do as I please :p


Its amazing how the wait for Leviathan was one hour but the wait for the older shittier coasters was well over an hour due to the length of time it takes to get those rides loaded and started =/
 
-COOLIO- said:
how do you fine folks go about apartment rental hunting?

i've been using myhood.ca and craiglist
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There's probably about fifty conversations on it in the thread. You can check the OT Living and Working section to see a few other resources. Viewit, craigslist, kijiji. Just knowing property management sites can help. I prefer the neighborhoods outside of downtown directly (Roncy, Bloor West, St Clair and Yonge (and Bathurst), Beaches). They're mostly cheaper, low rise apartments with thick walls and lots of parks.
 
crazy monkey said:
Honest question what is so special architecturally in that building? It is square bloc just like others.
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I'm not sure which buildings you are comparing it to so it's difficult for me to say why I like it better or if I do at all.

It's all a matter of taste but I really like the International Style of architecture (which the Toronto Dominion Centre is often cited as one of the best examples of in the world)

You can read the wikipedia entry if you curious about it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_style_(architecture)


It's a really clean and refined style but can appear simple. People that say they like "old looking buildings" generally despise this style.
 
I went to the TD Centre once........for a New Years Party

Worst New Years ever........


Even including the one where I made a mess of myself before it was even 10pm and wandered home without my coat =/
 
BigJonsson said:
I went to the TD Centre once........for a New Years Party

Worst New Years ever........


Even including the one where I made a mess of myself before it was even 10pm and wandered home without my coat =/
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Haha I remember both of those.

But ugh that TD Centre one was absolutely terrible. We were so dressed up too. After that I vowed never to have such a terrible new year's again.
 
EvilMario said:
There's probably about fifty conversations on it in the thread. You can check the OT Living and Working section to see a few other resources. Viewit, craigslist, kijiji. Just knowing property management sites can help. I prefer the neighborhoods outside of downtown directly (Roncy, Bloor West, St Clair and Yonge (and Bathurst), Beaches). They're mostly cheaper, low rise apartments with thick walls and lots of parks.
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oooohhh viewit is awesome

thanks for the tips
 
Cable internet still shitting itself on the west end. I avoided the month long off again on again outages during the holidays, but looks like our POI is hit this time.
 
I log into bell.ca to see the Internet packages

They have 175mb (synchronous) listed- almost crapped my pants

Not available in my area :-(

FTTH is coming :-)

But they also changed the data insurance

$5 for 25 GB are you fucking kidding? It was $5 for 40 GB before
 
DopeyFish said:
I log into bell.ca to see the Internet packages

They have 175mb (synchronous) listed- almost crapped my pants

Not available in my area :-(

FTTH is coming :-)

But they also changed the data insurance

$5 for 25 GB are you fucking kidding? It was $5 for 40 GB before
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Didnt you hear how all that new infrastructure is expensive, someone's got to pay for it.
 
Spl1nter said:
Didnt you hear how all that new infrastructure is expensive, someone's got to pay for it.
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yeah, it never ends up being the people making the infrastructure. dickweeds built toronto network on tax dollars

we should own the damn network ourselves, truly.
 
DopeyFish said:
yeah, it never ends up being the people making the infrastructure. dickweeds built toronto network on tax dollars

we should own the damn network ourselves, truly.
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Doesnt change the fact that costs will continue to rise due to a diseconomy of scale that exists for data. Its the reason Rogers and Bell are forced to increase $/gb.
 
I think the plastic bag fee is stupid. I do want it to go away. That being said, I don't think it'll save the city. The problem with it right now is, we don't know where that money is going. It should be going to environmental projects, but it's probably going towards the store owners new jag.
 
zorbsie said:
I think the plastic bag fee is stupid. I do want it to go away. That being said, I don't think it'll save the city. The problem with it right now is, we don't know where that money is going. It should be going to environmental projects, but it's probably going towards the store owners new jag.
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Yeah, I don't think any of those environmental feels go to the store owner. :|

Doesnt change the fact that costs will continue to rise due to a diseconomy of scale that exists for data. Its the reason Rogers and Bell are forced to increase $/gb.
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Are.... you defending Bellogers caps?
 
StevieP said:
Yeah, I don't think any of those environmental feels go to the store owner. :|
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That's not what the bylaws states.
http://www.toronto.ca/garbage/packaging_reduction/5centbag_bylaw.htm

"Retailers are entitled to keep the money received from the plastic bag charge, the money is not remitted to the City of Toronto. While the City does not stipulate what retailers should do with this money, it does support reinvesting the funds in local environmental or community-based initiatives."

That sounds like the retailer can do anything with the money from plastic bag fees. Or am I reading it wrong?
 
Yes, the 5c fee can be used by the retailer freely; including just pocketing the profits.

But even if they scrap the bylaw stating you must charge for the bags, what's stopping stores from continuing to charge for bags now that they see profit in it?

Spl1nter said:
Doesnt change the fact that costs will continue to rise due to a diseconomy of scale that exists for data. Its the reason Rogers and Bell are forced to increase $/gb.
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Holy shit, don't get me started on the telecom cost across the board in Canada compared to the rest of the world. Or the government and CRTC's backwards, self serving nature when it comes to regulation over the monopolies we have. Bell drags their feet on upgrading infrastructure, bitch and complain about being overloaded, and refuses to release actually numbers to prove this is the issue, and then stand in front of MPs are try to compare data to oil, or gas as a commodity. Not like the telecom giants are struggling with their profits either, with each year setting new records. Too bad protecting the consumer is about last on the list of priorities for the CRTC, if you take them at their actions instead of their word.

Don't give Bell a pass because of their 'rising cost'. They're making profits hand over fist, so if they had to absorb some of the cost of upgrading, or just maintaining the system, they would be okay. They are just trying to squeeze us for all we're worth, because there's almost nothing stopping them legally.

whitehawk said:
I'm fine with the store pocketing that 5 cents. The only way you are going to get companies to enforce environmental policies is if there is money to be saved or made.
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More to do with people at that level than the companies. 5 cents is not enough to deter most people from buying a bag. I see dozens of plastic bags come out of grocery stores for every one fabric bag / backpack being used to haul groceries. It's very sad. If it was something like 25 cents per bag (enough to make most people flinch about buying), and you gave 10 cents to the store for profit and take 15 cents for an environmental fund at city hall, then maybe it would make some sort of difference.
 
I'm fine with the store pocketing that 5 cents. The only way you are going to get companies to enforce environmental policies is if there is money to be saved or made.
 
EvilMario said:
More to do with people at that level than the companies. 5 cents is not enough to deter most people from buying a bag.
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Logically, yes.

However, when the bag fee first came out, I spoke with a few check out clerks who relayed stories about how tons of customers completely lost their shit when told that they had to pay 5 cents per plastic bag.
 
Boogie said:
Logically, yes.

However, when the bag fee first came out, I spoke with a few check out clerks who relayed stories about how tons of customers completely lost their shit when told that they had to pay 5 cents per plastic bag.
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Yeah, people were really 'up in arms' about it, and I believe at first it did make a noticeable difference in people cutting back. But like most things, over time people accept it and fall back into buying bags in mass again. This is just anecdotal of course, watching people's habits when I'm grocery shopping and out and about. I wish there were numbers on bags sold then and now, but sadly they don't exist.

I would love to see a quarter per bag, but I think the riots in the city would be pretty bad. :P
 
I wouldn't mind a quarter a bag. Hell I'd be okay with a dollar a bag, that'd teach me to forget my enviro-bag at home so often. The only thing annoying about the bag fee is that I have to buy actual garbage bags now.
 
Divvy said:
I wouldn't mind a quarter a bag. Hell I'd be okay with a dollar a bag, that'd teach me to forget my enviro-bag at home so often. The only thing annoying about the bag fee is that I have to buy actual garbage bags now.
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That would only be OK if the store got 5c and the city got the rest with the specific rule that requires spending on green energy initiatives and transit.
 
The 5 cents makes a huge difference, actually. I see it first hand. With Chapters, a portion of that is apparently donated to an undisclosed environmental cause. They used to be partnered with WWF for it.

I have at least two people daily that freak out about paying 5 cents for a bag. Had someone scream at my friend about it a couple of weeks ago.

And you still get a tax on top, so it's actually 6 cents, lol.
 
Quick said:
The 5 cents makes a huge difference, actually. I see it first hand. With Chapters, a portion of that is apparently donated to an undisclosed environmental cause. They used to be partnered with WWF for it.

I have at least two people daily that freak out about paying 5 cents for a bag. Had someone scream at my friend about it a couple of weeks ago.

And you still get a tax on top, so it's actually 6 cents, lol.
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Always makes me laugh when people freak out about the 5 cents.
 
Kave_Man said:
Always makes me laugh when people freak out about the 5 cents.
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This one time, I asked a customer if they needed a bag, and she asked me how much of the 5 cents goes to environmental causes. The useless sign behind us says, "a certain amount goes to environmental causes." That riles up her daughter, who simply said, "you don't know how much goes to the environment? I'm going to get a latte, don't even get me started." I sincerely wanted to know what she had thought of saying. The lady wouldn't drop it and asked for a manager, who explained that all we've been told is a certain amount and not anything more specific.
 
Just went into Toronto for a job interview position. Came much more early than expect. Saw they is a park near by and spend an hour there. Trinity Bellwoods Park is the name and got to say, it's a nice park for it's size. People lying on the grass talking with other people or reading a book. Kids having fun with other kids at they own age. People playing soccer. Old people talking about the past with they friends. It make it even better with the nice weather today. Kinda wish I can stay there forever. Wish they're nicer park like that here where I live.
 
EvilMario said:
I would love to see a quarter per bag, but I think the riots in the city would be pretty bad. :P
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If the primary grocery purchasers undertook a riot in Toronto I owe someone $100. That's how unlikely I see the event of a riot happening among those people.

Aside from which, $25c is a lot less than the $2 they charge per re-usable bag, which I lose and then have to buy on a regular basis.

I swear, in a 700sq foot apartment I think I have about 20 of them.
 
My girlfriend won't let me use our Ikea bag to do groceries because it's tacky, but I swear you could fit a shopping cart's worth of stuff in one.
 
Does the TTC really think people will pay when the "Collector" is away for whatever bullshit reason? Who else but the TTC runs a business like that? I saw about 5 people run through at Pape Station this morning without paying.
 
So how do you guys feel about a potential casino? There are certain pros and cons to it, and I haven't decided whether one side outweighs the other.
 
Divvy said:
So how do you guys feel about a potential casino? There are certain pros and cons to it, and I haven't decided whether one side outweighs the other.
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Depends. I think you come out even in the long run, just don't attach a fucking club to it. Probably the worst thing Fallsview could have let happen.
 
I'm ok with a red light district if it's heavily regulated (taxed, disease screening, logging for the sole purpose of disease control)- no pimps but high security (for protection of both parties)

I'm ok with casinos as long as its run by OLG, has the same type of taxation and maintains a high level of class
 
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