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that's what she saidAh yes, that .3" is crazy bigger than 5".
that's what she saidAh yes, that .3" is crazy bigger than 5".
I always assumed widgets were things that were on your desktop and worked with immediate non use affect. I.e, the same as on Windows. Then again, on OS X you do have a separate Widget's pane, so it's not that far off.
Hopefully in future Apple make them look a bit more fancy, and perhaps allow you to have them on the lock screen too. For viewing without touch. Annoying to have to unlock your phone to access the widgets, but not a huge issue.
It's not a huge thing, it just takes more steps to get to the information you want to see. You have to slide to unlock, and then pull down the notification bar. So it's 1 more step than having them on the homescreen, 2 more steps than having them on the lockscreen.
I think another issue with the proposed elongation within the exact same form factor is that it's probably not even possible. That's a lot of extra screen within the same exact body.. And to think they'd even make it thinner? Just doesn't seem possible in that form factor. If you look at how portable electronics have evolved over time, they sort of went from small but thick, to a bit thinner, then a bit wider, and i'm guessing that process will continue.
It's almost like when you leave a ball of silly putty sitting there for hours, it slowly gets flatter and wider. :lol
I mean, by the time this new phone comes out it'll have been around two years since they refreshed the design or aesthetics. I HIGHLY doubt they'll just keep the same frame and elongate the screen. I don't think they could get any thinner if they did that, as it's cramped as-is, and apart from smokey, no one wants the exact same form factor. The market is dying for something new at this point.
That's why I think they'll make the thing slightly wider and longer, but incredibly thinner. It just makes more sense in terms of what's possible for a 4"-4.3", I think..
Yeah that's another thing, I wonder when they'll finally move away from the traditional 30pin connector into that proposed/patented mini-magsafe MB style charger, or something similar.I could see this. I wouldn't be surprised if they make it thinner as well, which means a new mini dock connector is probably necessary, and fits with the rumors. So yeah, a little longer and a little wider, though I don't know how much longer they'll have to make it if they can make the bezel a bit more efficient.
Yeah that's another thing, I wonder when they'll finally move away from the traditional 30pin connector into that proposed/patented mini-magsafe MB style charger, or something similar.
this is true.Much worse, though, as far as I'm concerned, is that one of the single best hidden features of the iPhone is the fact that you can find and borrow an iPhone charger practically anywhere.
also true. I don't see apple doing this ever, though, for better or worse (kind of worse)Practically every other modern non-iPhone uses microUSB.
The weird thing about doing that is that, as much as it makes sense to eventually shrink the connector, it'd mean immediate incompatibility with all sorts of accessories, including built-in in-car connectors and so on. That's bad.
Much worse, though, as far as I'm concerned, is that one of the single best hidden features of the iPhone is the fact that you can find and borrow an iPhone charger practically anywhere.
They'll never use it, they'll adopt a brand new method. Either mini-magsafe connector or a mini traditional 30pin.Practically every other modern non-iPhone uses microUSB.
Exactly, it'll happen sooner or later. It could start with the new iPhone, but either way when it happens it'll ripple across all the iDevices, I think.Yeah, it's going to be a shitty transition for all the reasons you specify, but it does need to be done at some point.
I don't see apple doing this ever, though, for better or worse (kind of worse)
I agree with you, but it's strange because EU law states that all phones must have this by 2013. They could also do it the way HTC did it with their older WinMo/Android Phones, where they had a special proprietary connector which would also accept MiniUSB.
I thought Apple started shipping a micro USB to 30 pin adapter to work around that?
I thought Apple started shipping a micro USB to 30 pin adapter to work around that?
My phone is pass coded, so it's a bit longer than that but, yea, not the hugest deal. But home page/lock screen widgets as an option couldn't hurt. Though I doubt they'll do it in fear of being too similar to Android.
The dock connector allows connections to USB, Firewire, HDMI, VGA, line in/out, and other interfaces. That's the genius of it and why they won't go to something limited like USB.
The weird thing about doing that is that, as much as it makes sense to eventually shrink the connector, it'd mean immediate incompatibility with all sorts of accessories, including built-in in-car connectors and so on. That's bad.
Much worse, though, as far as I'm concerned, is that one of the single best hidden features of the iPhone is the fact that you can find and borrow an iPhone charger practically anywhere.
Do the front and post it on The Verge forums and you'll be all over the blogs/tech sites within a day.![]()
Made this quick mockup of what I think it'll end up looking like (or what I want it to look like?) if they go with the bigger form factor. Used iPad assets as I think it'll be quite similar to that. Sexy, imo.
Might do one of the front later.
I agree, that basically looks like a bigger ipod touch with the ipad finish. I really hate how the current ipod touch feels in your hand. It's like it's cutting your fingers and there's nothing to grip on to.I don't think a curved and a substantially thinner body is necessarily good for a device this small.
This is what I was talking about earlier, how the increase in width could sort of accommodate for that in a way. I think that's why such a curvature/thinness could work.I agree, that basically looks like a bigger ipod touch with the ipad finish. I really hate how the current ipod touch feels in your hand. It's like it's cutting your fingers and there's nothing to grip on to.
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Made this quick mockup of what I think it'll end up looking like (or what I want it to look like?) if they go with the bigger form factor. Used iPad assets as I think it'll be quite similar to that. Sexy, imo.
Might do one of the front later.
Funny thing is those dimensions would easily fit a 4.3" screen on the front, with almost the same amount of bezel on the sides as the current iPhone. We have to remember everyone so far is saying "at least" 4".Yes yes, do the front.
I would buy that
It won't bee the same size as the iPod Touch, it'll be a lot wider giving you a better grip. Plus the curvature wouldn't be as deep as it is with the Touch, it'll be more like the iPad 2&3's rounded edges.seriously, has no one here used an iPod Touch? a slim tapered phone design is very uncomfortable to hold, even if it does look gorgeous
Kind of doesn't matter, I doubt they will blow up the home screen into big icons on a 4.3", or increase the PPI on a 4.3. The icon sizes and assets are the same size though, same hit point sizes etc.Sentry: did you assume the same screen res blown up or the same PPI and bigger res?
I have never been a fan of the ipod touch or original iPhone designs. They were weak points in Apple's recent history. Both are almost toy-like. I would probably not even consider a device which looked and handled like that.seriously, has no one here used an iPod Touch? a slim tapered phone design is very uncomfortable to hold, even if it does look gorgeous
Do the front and post it on The Verge forums and you'll be all over the blogs/tech sites within a day.
seriously, has no one here used an iPod Touch? a slim tapered phone design is very uncomfortable to hold, even if it does look gorgeous
I have never been a fan of the ipod touch or original iPhone designs. They were weak points in Apple's recent history. Both are almost toy-like. I would probably not even consider a device which looked and handled like that.
The 4S is much more comfortable to use. The tapered design works on larger devices like the iPad, but is not a good fit for a ~4" device.
Probably a little bit, but you can't really compare it to the HD2/7 or SGII because those edges have walls. The corners don't need to be super-round if the edge starts off with a deep curvature. You probably wouldn't even really feel the corners sue to that curve. But yeah, since I used iPad assets for the 'shop the corners might be a bit too pronounced.You need more more pronounced rounded corners for a phone that size. The HD2/HD7 are basically that, and it's rather uncomfortable. The SGII as well, to a lesser degree.
That would be awful.Probably a little bit, but you can't really compare it to the HD2/7 or SGII because those edges have walls. The corners don't need to be super-round if the edge starts off with a deep curvature. You probably wouldn't even really feel the corners sue to that curve. But yeah, since I used iPad assets for the 'shop the corners might be a bit too pronounced.
Excuse the sloppy photoshop but I wanted to kind of get an idea of how that kind of size might look in-hand;
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And I assumed the screen would be 1200x800 for a 4.3";
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It's based on the leaked iPhone 5 dimensions, but that in-hand 'shop is a bit too big (sloppy lol);Sentry, are you just trolling us? How can you possibly think those mockups look usable?
Ugh.It's based on the leaked iPhone 5 dimensions, but that in-hand 'shop is a bit too big (sloppy lol);
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Here's a more practical one.
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"That big"? I mean, it's only a few millimeters on each end in terms of width, and the height doesn't really matter in terms of grip or comfort.Ugh.
I really hope it isn't that big.
Erm.. says who? I don't want nor need it to if it means sacrificing portability. There's a reason these two form factors exist, and it's because they're each best suited for different purposes.Kind of surprised at reactions of how the phone is too "big." Smartphone use is supposed to replace laptop/ipad video watching, reading, and app use; keeping it to music, texting, and calling, might as well use an old symbian.