what? You can flip upside down with the gravity gun?
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The Giant Bomb Quick Look Thread 2
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what? You can flip upside down with the gravity gun?
jediyoshi
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The world can rotate, Inception style
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EozitzgFrIE#t=53s
Keyser Soze
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ThusZarathustra
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... do you not like him expressing the sentiment, or the fact that he doesn't go beyond just that into actually explaining what makes the shooting feel sub-par?
Because I totally agree with Jeff that lots of shooters don't "feel right", but I also agree that the explanation of that idea should go deeper into discussing reticle acceleration vis a vis stick movement, reticle stickiness regarding the painting of enemies and bullet curving and more.
Just saying "it doesn't feel right" can actually be an accurate thing to say, but it's far from a full explanation of what's happening and why.
Haunted
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That .gif made me want to watch the QL.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Yeah sometimes I would really like him to explain why the shooting feels off.
Keyser Soze
Member
That .gif made me want to watch the QL.
None of this is in there though. Not a bit.
Cannot blame GB though, the game seems to have a slow/rough/terrible start.
But still feel that he is harsher on the more populair games, just because. I'm getting that vibe anyway, but I'm a crazy person
Did you really want to watch more of that shit?
jediyoshi
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You realize a majority of quick looks don't consist of just a game's opening, right?
Well I for one want a QL to be all about what the game is all about. It's like if they showed Half Life 2 before the Gravity Gun or if they showed Persona before you ever got into a battle.
Yeah, and them jumping in fresh, or playing it through for the first time really is also an annoyance.
That tends to be a big part of enjoying a game where you shoot things the entire time.
goddamn tricasters
Haunted
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Man I really do love the look and feel of Virtua Fighter. Is this one online?
I learned my lesson when I bought VF5 (on the PS3) and eventually decided to sell it because nobody I know wants to play Virtua Fighter.
Yes. Jeff was steaming some online from his house last night too.
Yeah, I'm a dummy. I should have watched more of the quick look instead of skipping around.
I think the problem is, what the fuck does that even mean?
I think he just uses that as a catch-all for "the gun combat isn't fun". Like poor aim acceleration, slow in and out of iron sights, guys take way too many bullets, too much/not enough recoil, too little/no feedback when enemies get hit, inaccurate guns, poorly handled auto-aim/friction when the crosshair is close to an enemy, too much animation priority when reloading or switching weapons. Stuff like that.
That is a catch-all if I ever saw one. It catches so much, it makes the phrase essentially useless.
He says it when it doesn't make sense. He said something similar about Max Payne 3's controls. Doesn't mention if he adjusted anything. He even complained about button setup as if he never bothered to try out the other configurations. Sometimes the guy literally comes off as someone who has little interest in something, not giving it a fair shake.
It's non-specific, but that doesn't make it useless. If you've played enough shooters, you probably have some idea of what he means when he says that. If he was doing a proper review of the game, I'd hope he'd expand on the thought, though.
I played a preview a few months back and that shit was all bound to glowing spots on the floor. If they changed that it might at least be interesting...
Haunted
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Welp, I guess that's that.
QL looked terrible. Not sure why anyone would actually spend money to play this considering what else is available out there. Wasted money, wasted resources.
Some people playing B (C?) grade games?
Even then Inversion doesn't look that enticing (especially if the main gimmick is as limited in the final version as it was in a preview). Theres B/C grade games, and then theres completely mediocre games that you kinda hate yourself for playing. Inversion looks like the latter to me.
There are no capturing tools for vitas. Nobody has them.
They are not going to record vita footage until they can get a direct feed of the vita.
I think it's a capture equipment issue. As in, they don't have any for Vita. Last I heard.
edit: Beaten handily
ToastyBanana
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Oooh worth a punt, I'll add this to my Lovefilm queue. Not much else on it over the summer.
Man, Sony fucked up on this real hard. No exposure (in this case), or crappy exposure as a result.
EmCeeGramr
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Jeff has said that they're never going to do a QL for Vita if it's over-the-shoulder camera stuff.
It is moronic.
If Sony are concerned about people viewing the footage at lower DPI than intended, they should give publications some sort of direct-feed source which downscales to whatever resolution they see fit.
Although I really don't believe that reason for not doing the QuickLooks, I think they just don't care about it, which is fair enough.
Right, that's what I'm gathering. If it's a stalemate though (due to Sony apparent incompetence) you think GB would at least want to show the games in some form. It's more content while the games are still relevant and I didn't think the showings looked that bad during the launch videos.
Mister Negative
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I automatically assume it just means poor aim acceleration.
Die Squirrel Die
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They cared enough to review Mortal Kombat and Gravity Rush and outside of Resistance that's the only real notable Vita games to have come out post launch. Sure it's unlikely they'd take the same broad approach to QLs on the Vita as they do games on the 360/PS3/PC but if they had the equipment I don't doubt they'd at least make an effort to cover the stuff that they find even slightly intriguing or noteworthy.
The over the shoulder cam stuff was okay for the launch day stream but I can definitely understand how it's not something they'd want to carry on with past that.
I wouldn't say 'they' reviewed Gravity Rush.
Die Squirrel Die
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Hey, Alex is a valued member of the GB edito............sorry I couldn't finish that sentence
I don't have a problem with Alex
I don't think there's really a reason to invent some slight against the Vita from GB, whatever their stance on the system as a whole is, when there's a very obvious roadblock to content that's out of their control. I'm at a loss as to what Sony think they are gaining by not providing the media with the means to capture direct feed Vita footage. Funnily enough I was watching the footage of Hatsune Miku from E3 in the thread here and the footage was direct feed, which stood out to me, because it would seem that it is techinally possible at least.
It's not a roadblock though. They're choosing not to do it. They chose to do it in the past, they choose to film in their offices all the time. It's seems like an arbitrary decision, and I have very little doubt the quality of the resulting quicklooks is not the reason they're not doing them.
If they gave a shit about quality, their video wouldn't be dogshit quality.
I think it's far more likely no one watched the Vita videos so they don't bother making more of them.
Game Room videos were the second thing I ever saw on that site, and I loved it. That one episode where he fakes Ryan out like he's gonna play a Bioshock or something and then jumps into GR, so funny.
Whether or not these influenced my dropping $80 or whatever on Game Room and having all the achievements, I can't say.
Yes it did
That's stupid. You're suggesting that they're lying to us for what, to spare our feelings regarding some videogame system no one owns? It's far more likely that they are being honest about how they don't want to do OTS videos. Quality isn't even the only reason for why they wouldn't want to do it; for the Vita QL the OTS camera meant there was an actual person standing behind Jeff the whole time filming the games.