3DS XL First Impressions/Previews
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Glorified G
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Next 3DS revision: "People are still complaining about a stylus which you can get for less than 5 bucks from ebay?"
O_____O Just because something can be found for cheap on the internet doesn't mean people are okay with paying for it when they are accustomed to chargers being included with practically everything they buy. I'm reminded of Sony only including composite cables with ps3.
Does it not mean "factually"? Because, as I was saying, if you look at the ratings of the games at that point in the 3DS's life and this point in the Vita's life, you'd see that Vita's lineup is objectively better. That doesn't mean it's more appealing to you (not to mention, I was mistaken in thinking the guy I was talking to was talking about the 3DS's lineup at the point in which Vita's lineup is now in it's life, when he was actually talking about the 3DS's lineup since it came out compared to Vita's).
I think if a white XL comes out (like the one in Japan), I'll have to upgrade my 3DS. I love the look of it, even though I really dislike the look of the ones coming to the US. Weird.
Cursed Frogurt
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Oh no, please don't let there be a defense force for this. Please no.
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Also these new comparison videos are making it really hard to not want to upgrade again for me. Damn. I just don't want to play my big 3 upcoming games but if I do plan on getting this I will want to hold off on them till I can play them on this.
But the colors, ugh, so torn on this. Also this kind of makes the KH Mark of Mastery edition pointless to get.
There was one for the memory card which you definitely could not already own, so why not?
Glorified G
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There are people out there who value corporations self interest more than their own.
Sad really.
You must have missed the reveal thread. It was hilarious and sad.
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it's a fucking retarded decision by Nintendo, and they can fuck off if they assume I'm buying a £10 adapter that should have been included in the first place. I'm happy with my £1 usb charger, thanks.
superpickleman
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I cannot wrap my head around why Nintendo would think it would be a good idea to not include a charger with a new electronic device.
I'm in 'merica so this doesn't affect me but it still confuses me.
I'm in 'merica so this doesn't affect me but it still confuses me.
Ninja Scooter
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If you can get it for less than $5 how cheap do you think Nintendo can get them in bulk? It's purely a cheap as shit move by Nintendo to not include something as essential as a charger just to save a few cents, and defending it is just sad. Glad NOA had some sense at least.
From a consumer standpoint it doesn't make any sense, but from a business perspective it is a (somewhat) good idea. They can sell the AC adapter at a greater price, probably making quite a profit, which they weren't making with the 3DS. Not that I support the idea, it is extortion; it is a required accessory and they are charging quite a bit when compared with 3rd party adapters.
Nintendo is currently focused on returning to profitability, so cost-cutting measures in their products isn't too surprising. People often say that panic-mode Nintendo is best Nintendo, but it never is for the consumer.
The_Darkest_Red
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Can't wait for the European Wii U to come bundled only with one Pro controller. 
The tradeoff to get the color I want without getting a charger was a purely personal preference. Looking at the bigger picture, I thought the move to exclude a charger is a douche-move. If Nintendo wants extra income from the accessory sale. Sell the cradle separate from the AC charger. It's still nickel and diming but it's not as egregious.
Can't wait for the European Wii U to come bundled only with one Pro controller.
That'd be awesome, for the pure fact that there's not a chance in hell that the Wii U will come bundled with a pro controller in any region, ever.
The_Darkest_Red
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Gotta cut those costs, dude. HDMI cord and power cable sold separately.
Kontergurke
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Not sure if this point has been mentioned already: not selling the AC adapter with every console is better for the environment.
I'm not trying to defend their decision, but if Nintendo think there is a sizeable amount of potential buyers that already have the adapter, why would they package them with every unit? It might be more convenient for consumers, but it's also a waste of resources for a device that, in the end, will just become electronic waste anyway.
I'm not trying to defend their decision, but if Nintendo think there is a sizeable amount of potential buyers that already have the adapter, why would they package them with every unit? It might be more convenient for consumers, but it's also a waste of resources for a device that, in the end, will just become electronic waste anyway.
Supervlieg
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Just add 2, $ or £ to the price and include the damn charger. This is like selling a brick that is videogame machine for a couple of hours. Moms will be upset etc.
The_Darkest_Red
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Wow.
I really hope Nintendo PR takes this angle as well.
Anyway, what about the additional packaging materials used for the adapter and cradle boxes?
Yep, this and the fuel needed for the delivery guy to put your package in your mailbox.
There's no real sense with this this whole 'no adapter' thing, NO SENSE!
The only answer I could think of is money, but if you concider all the people that won't buy it because of this shitty decision, all in all I'd say they're losing money instead of saving some.
It's a pretty bullshit move. It sounds more and more stupid the more and more I have to explain it to friends of mine who are interested in gaming but don't read GAF/other websites etc.
But for me, personally, it isn't a deal breaker. I have a few of those chargers knocking around already. Not "defending" Nintendo as such but I'm not going to lose my shit attacking them about it or refuse to buy the system.
Probably nowhere enough to make a significant difference. I guess we'll see soon enough.
MisterHero
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lol I can't believe I almost bought a 3DS a few days before this was announced
black one please
black one please
Steve McQueen
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Welcome and check the vid on page 1. The gfx don't stretch, but there seems to be a filter that slighty softens the images, which is not a bad thing imo.
Feel the Swift
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My god this is so much better than the original.
Do you even understand what the Wii U Pro Controller is?
It's an optional accessory if you want 360 style control.
I can get behind their logic that future 3DS XL buyers already have a DSi or 3DS, and thus don't need an AC adapter.
The epic fail in this logic though, is that people who own a DS or 3DS may very likely want to resell their previous handle to buy the new one.
Are we supposed to resell our handheld without an AC adapter?
I'm not concerned by this, as my 1st 3DS was stolen, and so I have 2 AC adapters. But it's a bad, shortsighted move. Good luck with that at retail, and get prepared to staff your hotline Nintendo.
The epic fail in this logic though, is that people who own a DS or 3DS may very likely want to resell their previous handle to buy the new one.
Are we supposed to resell our handheld without an AC adapter?
I'm not concerned by this, as my 1st 3DS was stolen, and so I have 2 AC adapters. But it's a bad, shortsighted move. Good luck with that at retail, and get prepared to staff your hotline Nintendo.
I have yet to take my 3DS AC Adapter out of the box. Just kept using the DSi one. Will be the same with the 3DSXL. Obviously many people won't be in that situation, but it's also silly to think that with the fourth system with the exact same AC Adapter that there won't be a ton of people who already have one or more of them.
Still seems a weird move to make, though.
Yeah I don't know either, though I'm glad NoA made the right choice.
I mean, even if it wouldn't have an adapter I already have one from my original 3DS, I'd buy it anyway. Honestly I don't know if this will be a gamechanger at some point where it could affect sales statistics (I don't think so imo) but the facts are that its just plain dumb not to include an adapter for an electronical device that needs to be charged.
The_Darkest_Red
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'Twas a joke, my friend.
wow, I can't believe anyone would defend this. It's a stupid move for Nintendo to do there's no excuse for them not to include an AC adapter for every territory.
sorijealut
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Haha, gotta love the new members and their energy. You just greeted everyone in the middle of a heated discussion .
I think it's a temporary thing. When Nintendo's business recovers, I would hazard a guess that they'll introduce new SKU's with the charger and cradle included at no extra cost to the consumer. It just doesn't make sense from anything other than a financial point of view not to include an AC charger.
Either you sell it without an AC adapter, in which case the buyer buys a new one/uses an existing one, or you sell it with an AC adapter and you buy a new one.
In 2 out of 3 cases, Nintendo will make money from selling an AC adapter.
It's not nice but it is clever.
Though it makes sense that the people who are affected by the whole "adapter issue" would be angry, it makes just enough sense for Nintendo to say "well, most of our potential users would have owned DS Lites, DSis or an OG 3DS" to make it excusable in their eyes. Sorta like politics.
To be fair, the percentage of customers buying this who are first time Nintendo portable buyers/sold off their DS and 3DS doesn't seem large enough for this to cause them a real issue... on paper.
Where they are slipping, however, is in expecting the consumer, who has been conditioned to expect a charger with every electronic purchase they make, to remember to pick it up for an extra cost (no matter how small). Not only will most of them not know to buy it (in this world of "what's the best Mario game to buy for my son's PSP?"), but it engenders a negative impression in the consumer that may be hard to shake. I probably won't be getting an XL, and if I did I'm American anyway, but I can imagine buying one, coming back home to play it for an hour only to find out I have to drive allllllll the way back to the store to pick up something like this. Why would Nintendo take that chance? No idea
To be fair, the percentage of customers buying this who are first time Nintendo portable buyers/sold off their DS and 3DS doesn't seem large enough for this to cause them a real issue... on paper.
Where they are slipping, however, is in expecting the consumer, who has been conditioned to expect a charger with every electronic purchase they make, to remember to pick it up for an extra cost (no matter how small). Not only will most of them not know to buy it (in this world of "what's the best Mario game to buy for my son's PSP?"), but it engenders a negative impression in the consumer that may be hard to shake. I probably won't be getting an XL, and if I did I'm American anyway, but I can imagine buying one, coming back home to play it for an hour only to find out I have to drive allllllll the way back to the store to pick up something like this. Why would Nintendo take that chance? No idea
Kontergurke
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As I already said in my post, I wasn't defending anything, I was just trying to come up with reasons why Nintendo would do such a thing in the first place.
Personally, I think ít would have been way better if they had made the 3dsxl use a mini-usb cable for charging, as the chances of consumers already having those would surely be higher than having 3ds/dsi cables.
There is a big fat warning label on the box that states that the AC adapter/charger is not included. I really don't see this becoming a problem. Yes, not including the charger is annoying but from a business perspective completely understandable.
QueenOfThorns
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Has anyone posted impressions of the d-pad yet? It looks bigger, which is nice.
Dead Man Typing
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I'd bet it's saving Nintendo a lot more than "a few cents". (as someone posted above)
It's not just about making money off of the charger by selling it separately. By leaving it out, the package is much smaller. When you're shipping boxes by the the hundreds of thousands, any space saved for shipping is a huge money saver. If you can get 6 units in a box instead of 5, that's a big deal.
I've got a charger, so it doesn't bother me that they're leaving it out.
You aren't alone Alex. Very much agreed.
Posting from my iPhone so I won't translate but Gamekult preview says Mario Land looks more aliased and not as defined on the XL: http://www.gamekult.com/actu/on-a-essaye-la-nintendo-3ds-xl-A102572.html
General impressions are very good but this point contradicts previous reports.
General impressions are very good but this point contradicts previous reports.
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