cartoon_soldier
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I am ashamed that Jidal and Haley are of Indian (Desi) heritage
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Well, education tends to be the biggest part of state budgets, but I think it mostly has to do with those being among the most important services any government can provide for its people.
So they cut education and health care, make them shit, then point to it as proof that government doesn't work.
Because it's not immediately noticeable.
Most people are healthy, and you find out that you have dumb kids only years after the fact.
Same reason why infrastructure and research money is always first on the chopping block.
Makes the blood boil.
Yeah, but in the case of mental health, which is always there and apparent, and then in the case of South Carolina where incidents of rape is high, it doesn't make any sense to cut something like that.
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"Our use was 100% proper, under fair use, and we plan to defend ourselves," said a Romney campaign spokesperson.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/16/mitt-romney-ad_n_1677874.html
"Our use was 100% proper, under fair use, and we plan to defend ourselves," said a Romney campaign spokesperson.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/16/mitt-romney-ad_n_1677874.html
So I caught up on all the Sunday shows and I'm amazingly flabbergasted how NOT A SINGLE flak for Romney bothered to defend him. Quite literally every single one of them tried to deflect by just attacking Obama and saying that the American people don't care how little Romney paid in taxes or whatever.
That's exactly what you need to do right now, fight rights holders over a smear ad.
Good lol.
Aaron Strife
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Jindal's such a fuck.,
Doesn't seem any better than Haley, either...
Bill O'Reilly laid out the Romney attack plan to these Bain attacks - just run every video of Obama praising GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt, note all their plants outside the country and the fact that they paid $0 in federal taxes in 2010. How Obama hits Romney for outsourcing on one hand, and on the other hand:
cartoon_soldier
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Wonderful Idea. I thought Romney was against attacking Capitalism though?
Isn't it tough to run on a platform of a corporation paying too few taxes as a current Republican? Especially when they just blocked the bill to end outsourcing tax breaks.
I was so excited in 2010 because I thought Dayton would win the governorship, and MN single payer would have a chance of passing.
Then republicans got a majority
I live in a VERY safe democratic district my vote doesnt matter terribly in that regard, but I am definitely voting no on marriage and ID. Though I think ID is probably going to pass because people are morons
Schools and hospitals don't have the same sort of lobbyists.
TacticalFox88
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I never really learn my lesson of never reading comments on political sites. Goddamn, a cesspool of pure stupidity.
Dr. Pangloss
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They still are agreeing to the basic premise that Obama is bring up: that outsourcing is wrong. No push back on that and muddying the waters on who was the biggest outsourcer seems like a losing strategy to me. You can say that the other guy did it too, but Obama has other accomplishments to fall back on, ex. the auto bailout. What does Romney have besides Bain? The Olympics? Just like Kerry was painted as a coward in the summer of 2004 no matter the facts; Romney is going to be painted as an outsourcer which he is acknowledging as bad.
Arrowgigantic
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He'll have something when Obama endorses Immelt to be the next president.
That's, uh, kind of dumb for a variety of reasons. It's acknowledging that what Romney did is wrong, a Republican is attacking Capitalism, a Republican is attacking low taxes, and GE's CEO isn't running for president. It's almost as dumb as saying he won't release more tax returns because a previous candidate's WIFE didn't.
He should just stick to "no U outsource, Obummer" as that has at least some chance of working.
Yesterday, Silver posted an admittedly crude analysis of the effect of voter identification laws. He utilized the political science literature, which has been cited in this thread, to estimate the effect on turnout. He notes that the magnitude is frequently exaggerated by prognosticators. And the extant literature evinces that. Nonetheless, the various impediments should provide a modest advantage to Republicans, although it's not sufficient enough to significantly diminish Obama's prospects.
The Librarian
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Thing is, Obama supports social safety net programs that would help people affected by offshoring/outsourcing while Romney offers...nothing.
Offshoring/outsourcing isn't a bad thing in every case. Yglesias had a good write-up about it earlier. Or was it J. Cohn?
Al-ibn Kermit
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Is Giuliani still trying to be relevant? The only downside is he would piss off the social conservatives but they're already lukewarm on a Mormon president.
The problem with choosing a more popular conservative is that they either don't want to risk their career on Mitt's chances, or they just don't like him (Santorum).
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Highly profitable sectors. People will pay anything to be treated, or for the treatment of their loved ones.
With education, the middle class will throw every dollar they can to help their kids get into good schools, and then those same kids will take on massive debt too. Etc. Plus, the poor kids get dumber and end up with low-paying jobs.
It would cost you $4000 a month to put your mother or father in a home for dementia-stricken people.
Unwanted pregnancies = financial and opportunity drain, and goes back to the impact of cutting education funding. It keeps people poor, drugged, etc.
RustyNails
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lol. If BillO thinks Mitt Romney will attack Jeffrey Immelt, he is hell lot more dumb than previously thought.
whats this world coming to?
Dragoon En Regalia
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Hey bad dudes.
I'm trying to find a good resource full of highlight articles from this past June. Anyone know a good one?
I'm trying to find a good resource full of highlight articles from this past June. Anyone know a good one?
Dude, he thought tides were an unexplainable force of God. He's that dumb and more.
Ether_Snake
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Forget it, Giuliani would not be the pick, 100% sure. Way too big to be just a VP by now.
edit: Democrats better never let Immelt run for them. After Obama it's either Clinton or Ron Reagan, even if Reagan is unlikely to want to run, the guy would win hands down.
eBay Huckster
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...I just had a fevered dream where Martin O'Malley and Ron Reagan ran on the same ticket in 2016 and won in a landslide.
It's not about policy, it's about our guy winning.
Both sides do it by the way.
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Defend Romney by attacking Obama for praising someone else. lol
Black Mamba
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nm
Al-ibn Kermit
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The guy was a mayor, ran for president and lost, and now nobody's heard anything about him for 3 years. He's not exactly a political whale. Also, it's been long enough that bringing him back will keep the news channels distracted for a few weeks.
Romney needs to stop looking for a political viewpoint and get a cheerleader to speak for him. Choosing a candidate from a swing state shows a lot of obvious bias and choosing a true-believer or a minority/female makes it look like you're trying to make another Palin. I think Giuliani would actually be a reasonable choice for Romney.
If Romney is really choosing his VP this week, then he's doing it just to distract from the Bain attacks. I don't see anybody being surprised enough by someone like Portman for that goal to be accomplished.
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Sounds good!
If Obama is playing 11th dimensional chess, the reason he has been giving more props to Reagan than the Republicans is to acquire the Reagan name for the Democrats, preparing for an eventual Ron Reagan campaign. It would force the Republicans to start attacking the Reagan name publicly somewhere in 2016. It would be glorious.
But Romney has no religious backing, Giuliani wouldn't have much more either. He's been quiet because the whole terrorism schtick was his only schtick. Romney needs someone religious, loud and crazy, and at the same time someone who makes Romney look good. Giuliani would be too big.
What's this about Ron Reagan running for president? Has the guy shown ANY interest in running for any high office?
I mean, the dude's awesome, but it seems like wishful librul thinking than anything else.
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Oh, also El Rushbo says Obama "hates this country":
http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/07/16/523971/rush-limbaugh-obama-hates-this-country/
I mean, the dude's awesome, but it seems like wishful librul thinking than anything else.
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Oh, also El Rushbo says Obama "hates this country":
http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/07/16/523971/rush-limbaugh-obama-hates-this-country/
PhoenixDark
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What type of articles?
NullPointer
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The "Look who Obama's hugging now" defense?
Yeah, I can see this movie capturing zeitgeist, much like TDK.
Al-ibn Kermit
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Between gay marriage and abortion, religious people are mostly concerned with abortion. Romney doesn't want somebody who will piss off female voters more than he has already by beating the drums of scaling back birth control options. Even if he picks Giuliani (who's pro-choice), the religious base will still choose Romney over the other guy.
Romney's whole post-primary strategy has been to distract from everything he's ever said. Getting somebody like Santorum just hurts him by showing he's taking a shotgun approach to adopting all conservative principles. If he chooses Giuliani, he gets to show some actual focus. On an issue he has no experience with, and therefore cannot have flip-flopped on.
The scary thing is, I think I may have convinced myself that Giuliani is a realistic pick.
Ether_Snake
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Uh? Which issue would that be?
Al-ibn Kermit
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Terrorism, foreign policy.
Suikoguy
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I don't think that is a demograph he has problems with.
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Starts at page 66, and page 78
http://www.scribd.com/doc/78582788/McCain-2008-Oppo-File
Here's a random nugget:
lol
Romney has flipped-flopped on so hard with foreign policy and terrorism.
Besides just the Bane name, isn't there also a
wealth inequality theme running through the movie or something? I thought one of Catwoman's lines in the trailer hinted at it.
Occupy Wallstreet
Sorry for the spoiler tags, but I know some people are really touchy about spoilers here, especially for Batman.
cartoon_soldier
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It is amazing McCain's team could put that together for Romney but when it came to Palin...
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