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Secret Fawful
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The line "Death......by exile" is the sort of thing Joker would say.....but I just can't see Crane doing that. If anything I don't think Crane fits as the Judge.
Ra's was clearly just a hallucination. I assume that he made the assumption because he had Bane on the brain. Can't blame the guy.
But money is all that matters in Hollywood.
It's why Transformers will probably get at least 3 more movies.
It's why Avatar is getting another movie.
Voting with dollars. It's all that matters in the end.
rollingstart
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People were completely silent at mine. I kept a huge smile that entire scene; felt like the odd man out.
It was like:
Yeah, I agree. But I think they did it just to be clear with the audience. If they made him vanish when Bruce looks away for a second or something, then people would've probably assumed he did a ninja vanish trick or something.
8BitsAtATime
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It was pretty much the best part of the film
Sticking out could just mean made more prominent not physically sticking out of the skin all gory and shit. Again since we didn't see the injury we don't really know the exact injury of it. It's very likely it's not as serious as it is implied.
A literal back break aka vertebra splitting in two would injure the spinal core inside the vertebra and paralyze Bruce from the point of injury all the way down. Since he wasn't paralyzed the injury wasn't that severe.
its like im reading a gamefaqs movie board or something
"Smart, sexy, and seriously funny."
SCULLIBUNDO
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What I really hate is the studio execs kidnapping me from my house and strapping me into the theatre chair to watch them. WHY DONT THEY LEAVE ME ALONE?
In the first film he was subservient to the League of Shadows, but had and relished personal control over individual people's lives.
Sounds like he was in heaven. You need to lighten up.
BuddyJoeHooker
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Oh god yes such a terrible fade away, made me laugh.
FlashbladeGAF
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Alfred found some info on him about being a member of the League of Shadows or something
And people kept talking of a child who escaped the pit and how Bane was in a prison and born from darkness
Bruce assumed they were the same person
Also in the prison when the doctor is about to go into detail about the story of the child the other inmate tells him that Bane probably wouldnt want him telling Bruce this story.
We assume he meant Bane didnt want him knowing his origins, but it was really Bane not wanting Talia's secret to be revealed to Bruce
Beast Legacy
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It works on all levels that way. General audiences think it was just a dream/hallucination. We could think the same, or that he was actually there (drugging Bruce so he thinks it was a dream too).
He looks like a man who takes himself too seriously.
billy beane
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I agree. I don't think The Joker should've been in Crane's spot. It doesn't seem like The Joker would be doing something small time like that.
The Joker not being mentioned isn't a detriment to the film, I'm just saying it would've been interesting to see how he might've been written into the film if Ledger were still alive. But there's also the possibility he still wouldn't have been in if Ledger were alive, so it doesn't really matter. Film was still great.
Callo Merlose
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Stop projecting.
ViewtifulJC
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and is his space bar broken or is leaving spaces in between periods against his religion or something?
Salvor.Hardin
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So the part when Batman and Catwoman team up when entering the layer. That was really clunky.
I understand why he thought they were the same person. What I don't get is how he made the connection that the child that made it out of the pit was in fact Ra's' child, and be right.
I understand why he thought they were the same person. What I don't get is how he made the connection that the child that made it out of the pit was in fact Ra's' child, and be right.
But he was IN BRUCE'S LOCKED CELL. Even a moron who had never seen the two previous movies would have surely gotten it without the effect.
Right?
Right?
Right?
:_(
Secret Fawful
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Hmm. That's a fair assessment.
Na mate.He broke his back and it got fixed by using a rope.Oh and a girl made the jump but no one else could.That stupid
Im a junior critic and ive been freelancing at empire mag since i was 15 as i started by doing work experiance there etc .They get mentioned alot over there.
I almost expected Catwoman and Batman to high five each other after they rolled through the goons so easily and then the trap happened and I was like "SHIT JUST GOT REAL!"
The girl was brought up in that prison and she wasn't using the rope so she wasn't weighed down by it physical or mentally. That was explained in the movie. Plus kids are just better at climbing and shit.
Honestly though this is clearly not your "type" of movie at all. Don't know what you expected going into it. Movie revolves around a fusion reactor timed bomb....
Ape Gone Insane
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Anyone get a TDK boat scene vibe when JGL began walking towards the officers/soldiers on the bridge? It was like another test of the Gotham everyman's willingness to kill another.
ViewtifulJC
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This is a director that will bring up an old subject, then immediately flashback to it, practically every time. Bruce stares at gun he was gonna use on Chill, FLASHBACK TO CHILL GET IT HE'S BECOME WHAT HE HATES. Bruce falls down hole, Bruce's dad flashback WHY DO WE FALL.
Why exactly can't you have Batman without Bruce Wayne if they continue this series?
OrangeGrayBlue
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He found out about his past prior to meeting with him. And when they do meet Bane outright speaks to Batman about their shared history with the League of Shadows. As for the connection to being his son, it was a (faulty) assumption that Bruce had made because all the info he'd been given to that point led him to that conclusion.
edit- just read your more recent post. Again, I believe that all the info he'd received about Bane brought him to that conclusion in conjunction with his own insecurities. It is likely the only rationale that he could accept as to why he was bested in combat. It may have been a matter of pride just as much as it was a logical conclusion for him.
Wow. What a long, boring movie. It felt even longer because there was no fun in this movie at all. It felt as if it were a three hour long announcement of the continuation of the batman franchise. Bane was one of the most boring villains I've seen in a long time, which is a horrible disappointment as Hardy is a great actor. There is so much more, but whatever.
So disappointing.
So disappointing.
Because Bruce Wayne IS Batman for the masses. John "Robin" Blake is not.
Also, Nolan and everyone involved in these films are done. JGL is in Nolan's inner circle now, and won't do a Batman movie without him.
Beast Legacy
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A couple of moments left me with a "he dumbed that down" feeling (making JGL's name Robin to spell it out for people).
Case in point, and I agree.
But overall I still enjoyed it and I choose to believe Nolenverse Ra's al Ghul is still alive.
Ghost_Protocol
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That first fight with Bane was something special. I don't think I've ever seen a fight scene that good before. ever
The Anti-Monitor
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Hey, Junior, chill. Seriously.
I laughed
you dont have an answer do you lol
Salvor.Hardin
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But there was zero information that would make him think that Ra's was Bane's father. At that point, all he knew was that Bane was in the LoS.
FlashbladeGAF
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If you're focusing on no back story for Catwoman as a main bad thing in this film, then stop. She was one of the few shining things about this movie.
Hahahahahahaha, Blade Runner is a very, very pretty film. It has wonderful production design, shot composition, cinematography and atmosphere. It's a classic, but it's far from a masterpiece. Much of it's subtext and thematic hidden depths are almost wholly imagined by film buffs and scholars, Scott just went along with it and made revisions to fit these conceptions. Comparing anything Ridley Scott has ever made to Kubrick's work is taken by me as a massive insult to cinema.
Lots of people don't like Blade Runner, and it varies between which of the 700 versions of it they might have seen. It's a very slow paced, many would say boring film, with very little plot to fill it's ponderous wide shots and sweeping futuristic cityscapes. I'm not surprised somebody might like TDKR more than Blade Runner, I don't, but I'm certainly not offended by it or think that they're stupid because of it.
Yeah, seriously. That roar that Bats lets out backing up on the catwalk was intense.
That's junior critic to you!
Secret Fawful
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Guys I don't understand... how did Bruce manage to keep his beard so well trimmed in the eight years since TDK...he never left his room so how did he manage to look so neat? Also didn't he smell...we never saw him bathe....how could Talia stand to sleep with him?
EndcatOmega
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Random text from a co-worker who watched it asking me how, I quote, 'Ralph Fiennes' survived the first movie.
Your expectations are at least two notches too high!
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