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Deception and theatricality are her allies.

Those and dem tittays.

Yeah, uh, there was one scene in particular in Wayne Manor where Cotillard was in a sort of profile view, and damn. Howitzers.

Transfixing, you might call it. It's clear what her superpower was.

Did you even listen to what Alfred said when he talked about the restaurant? He said he'd look across and see Bruce with a wife and family. He'd get up and leave safe in the knowledge that Bruce has put Gotham behind him and moved on with his life. Basically Bruce was fulfilling Alfred's wish.

He also told Bruce something to the effect of "you wouldn't say anything to me, and I wouldn't say anything to you." Playin' it cool, like Alfred do.
 
This thread is infected with Scarecrow's loony gas. You have some missing the most obvious references ever (the well/pit, how the fuck do you miss that unless you blacked out for the entire flashback and everything, WTF?!) and others claiming flashbacks insult the audience's intelligence.
 
This analysis of the ending is a really good one:

So the ending went like this...

Batman used the Bat to take the nuclear bomb out to sea to let it explode there so he could save Gotham City. Which would make people think he died but in reality he didn't because that one scientist told Lucious Fox that Bruce Wayne fixed the Bat himself 6 months ago so that's how the Auto-Pilot thing worked. Then we see James Gordon looking surprised because while the city was now hailing Batman as a hero by building him a statue, there was no purpose to owning a bat signal if there is no Batman to come. By leaving John Blake the coordinates to the Batcave and restoring the bat-signal, he was gesturing to Gordon that if ever the city needs Batman, he'll be there. It's obvious that he's looking around for Batman after finding it restored. We also see before hand ...Alfred, James Gordon, Fox & Blake at his burial an Alfred starts crying and saying that he failed bruce's parents in which in he didn't which he later found out.

Later on we see they left something for Alfred when they're dividing up Bruce Wayne's assets, they note that Martha Wayne's pearl necklace is missing. If you recall, there's a tracking device on it. I've read that it's implied that Alfred followed the transmission, leading him to that cafe in Italy. Only then he notices Bruce along with Selina Kyle at a table an gives him the head nod as if the image he had in his head from earlier in the movie were true because bruce came thru in the end an saved everything himself. Though to the public eye bruce was dead and so was batman until Gotham needed him again. Funny thing is most people forgot the device he gave to her to wipe her identity and crime records from the system entirely so nobody would know about her anymore.

Finally in the end we see Blake in the bat cave trying to figure that place out only then he steps on the platform which indicates... "The Dark Knight Rises".

If people ask you why or how can James Blake become batman himself without training ...the answer is simple an it came from when Ra's Al Ghul said this to Bruce in the Batman Begins movie....""The training is nothing, the will is everything. The will to act."
 
If people ask you why or how can James Blake become batman himself without training ...the answer is simple an it came from when Ra's Al Ghul said this to Bruce in the Batman Begins movie....""The training is nothing, the will is everything. The will to act."

Also lots of push-ups and pull-ups.
 
make it so

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But did Bruce give Selina a pearl necklace of her own?

What I'm asking is whether he came in between her titties and plastered her clavicle with bat pods.
 
Honestly, I actually completely forgot about the Gordon/coat/young Bruce thing myself, so I appreciated that flashback, lol. I hadn't seen BB in a while anyway.

I don't think I'd consider a flashback to a movie from 7 years ago "dumbing down" anything.
 
Oh ok. Kind of a nice touch really. Like Bruce has finally moved on from the tragedy of his parents and is ready to live a new live with smoking hot Selina Kyle.

I like how quick he was to forgive her after she betrayed him and caused him to suffer in agony at the hands of a hulking terrorist and be imprisoned in a hole for months. The Dark Knight "rises" indeed.
 
Dat ending... best one in quite a while. There has been good singular flick endings but when you land a trilogy that has spanned many years on this level it's just sooo good.
 
But did Bruce give Selina a pearl necklace of her own?

What I'm asking is whether he came in between her titties and plastered her clavicle with bat pods.

so damn subtle

I would have loved a straight up five minute scene of Bale just straining to pop a load of dick milk all over Cotillard's chest while she fucking screamed about restoring balance to the world, taking his piece in her hands and wanking into the flames, as Bale shouts 'THE FIRE RISES, THE FIRE RISES' and Bane sits outside with a finger up his bottom
 
Honestly, I actually completely forgot about the Gordon/coat/young Bruce thing myself, so I appreciated that flashback, lol. I hadn't seen BB in a while anyway.

I don't think I'd consider a flashback to a movie from 7 years ago "dumbing down" anything.

Yeah I don't think some people realize that not everyone watches these films on an annual basis, picks them apart, and quotes dialogue verbatim years after the fact.
 
so damn subtle

I would have loved a straight up five minute scene of Bale just straining to pop a load of dick milk all over Cotillard's chest while she fucking screamed about restoring balance to the world, taking his piece in her hands and wanking into the flames, as Bale shouts 'THE FIRE RISES, THE FIRE RISES' and Bane sits outside with a finger up his bottom
PM me if you post anymore romantic musings, I'm working on Fifty Shades of Bat.
 
so damn subtle

I would have loved a straight up five minute scene of Bale just straining to pop a load of dick milk all over Cotillard's chest while she fucking screamed about restoring balance to the world, taking his piece in her hands and wanking into the flames, as Bale shouts 'THE FIRE RISES, THE FIRE RISES' and Bane sits outside with a finger up his bottom

They had to cut stuff out of the final version so the people making Dark Knight XXX could make some money too. Nolan is generous like that.
 
You can kinda see the tower from Begins in the background when Joker and Batman face off in the streets after that big chase sequence.

I just assumed they moved their HQ to a different building.

In film, I also think they relocated to a more modern building.

IRL, the building behind Joker (that Batman flips the Cycle off of) is the same building they used as Wayne Tower in Begins, but in Begins it was heavily CGIed to include a bunch of needlessly-high-off-the-ground elevated trains running into it. None of that stuff in TDK.

Here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_board_of_trade_building

Most likely the reason different locations for filming. They didn't film in Chicago this time around.


Except that it appears to be the same building in TDK/TDKR.
 
In film, I also think they relocated to a more modern building.

IRL, the building behind Joker (that Batman flips the Cycle off of) is the same building they used as Wayne Tower in Begins, but in Begins it was heavily CGIed to include a bunch of needlessly-high-off-the-ground elevated trains running into it. None of that stuff in TDK.

The trains actually are in a few establishing shots in TDK. The first time you see the new Wayne building you can see one of the BB trains in the background.
 
- For a Batman movie, there was surprisingly little of Batman scenes in it.
- Bane's end comes from a side character, not the Batman? Eh.
- What was the explanation for the Bane's mask? I missed it.
 
All I know is that at the end of the film, Nolan forever ruined my favourite scene in the whole trilogy.

I'm never going to be able to watch the scene in BB where Bruce embraces the swarm of bats without thinking of goddamn JGL. Damn, you Nolman! I curse your house!
 
so damn subtle

I would have loved a straight up five minute scene of Bale just straining to pop a load of dick milk all over Cotillard's chest while she fucking screamed about restoring balance to the world, taking his piece in her hands and wanking into the flames, as Bale shouts 'THE FIRE RISES, THE FIRE RISES' and Bane sits outside with a finger up his bottom

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What was the explanation for the Bane's mask? I missed it.

Bane was attacked by the other inmates for helping young Talia escape the pit. The doctor (guy in cell next to Bruce) tried to fix his face but fucked it up due to his drug problem and left Bane in permanent agony. The mask keeps the pain at bay with drugs.
 
- For a Batman movie, there was surprisingly little of Batman scenes in it.

Bruce Wayne was the focal point

- Bane's end coming from a side character, not the Batman? Eh.

Batman refuses to use guns, gets in drawn-out, painful fist fights with guy who is stronger and faster. Catwoman has no such qualms, ends Bane in one shot.

- What was the explanation for the Bane's mask? I missed it.

Pain inhibitor
 
The only thing that annoys me about the whole "mother's necklace" thing is that Joe Chill yanked the necklace off Martha Wayne in the first film, scattering all the pearls. I guess I have to assume that someone gathered each pearl at the crime scene. :D
 
- What was the explanation for the Bane's mask? I missed it.
He got fucked up by the angry crowd as he was helping Talia out of the cave. The mask is basically a perpetual painkiller for his injuries from that.

Which brings me to a glaring inconsistency... Why was climbing the cave this riotous faux-pas then, but when Bruce is there, the policy's just "Oh yeah, dude, you wanna climb it? Sweet, take as many tries as you like."
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The only thing that annoys me about the whole "mother's necklace" thing is that Joe Chill yanked the necklace off Martha Wayne in the first film, scattering all the pearls. I guess I have to assume that someone gathered each pearl at the crime scene.
It's not a stretch that maybe a rich broad owned more than one pearl necklace.
 
He got fucked up by the angry crowd as he was helping Talia out of the cave. The mask is basically a perpetual painkiller for his injuries from that.

Which brings me to a glaring inconsistency... Why was climbing the cave this riotous faux-pas then, but when Bruce is there, the policy's just "Oh yeah, dude, you wanna climb it? Sweet, take as many tries as you like."
It's not a faux-pas, they just wanted to have sex with her, and her leaving would prevent that.
 
He got fucked up by the angry crowd as he was helping Talia out of the cave. The mask is basically a perpetual painkiller for his injuries from that.

Which brings me to a glaring inconsistency... Why was climbing the cave this riotous faux-pas then, but when Bruce is there, the policy's just "Oh yeah, dude, you wanna climb it? Sweet, take as many tries as you like."

The cave prison changed hands after Ra's came back. Maybe you weren't allowed to escape under the previous ruler, but under Ra's, you could try to follow in the footsteps of the one who did.
 
He got fucked up by the angry crowd as he was helping Talia out of the cave. The mask is basically a perpetual painkiller for his injuries from that.

Which brings me to a glaring inconsistency... Why was climbing the cave this riotous faux-pas then, but when Bruce is there, the policy's just "Oh yeah, dude, you wanna climb it? Sweet, take as many tries as you like."

Her mother was a victim of rape, and she was going to be next. Bane didn't want to let that happen, obviously.
 
He got fucked up by the angry crowd as he was helping Talia out of the cave. The mask is basically a perpetual painkiller for his injuries from that.

Which brings me to a glaring inconsistency... Why was climbing the cave this riotous faux-pas then, but when Bruce is there, the policy's just "Oh yeah, dude, you wanna climb it? Sweet, take as many tries as you like."

It's not a stretch that maybe a rich broad owned more than one pearl necklace.

Because they were trying to rape Talia or keep her so when she was older they could have their way with her. At least that's what I thought was implied, considering what happened to their mother. A bunch of evil sex starved men down in a hole...
 
I like how quick he was to forgive her after she betrayed him and caused him to suffer in agony at the hands of a hulking terrorist and be imprisoned in a hole for months. The Dark Knight "rises" indeed.

She also redeemed herself by choosing to come help Batman after she cleared the tunnel while the bomb was still counting down.
 
It's not a stretch that maybe a rich broad owned more than one pearl necklace.

Yeah, no doubt, but that necklace in particular (it has a large pearl in the center, surrounded by smaller pearls) is highlighted in the first film. There's a scene where Thomas Wayne shows it to Bruce and says that he is going to give it to Martha. It's the same necklace she wears the night she gets murdered.

I'm guessing that it's just a minor production error in that someone didn't remember that the necklace got shattered. Or that we're supposed to assume that it was rebuilt. It clearly has sentimental value to Bruce rather than just being a random necklace of Martha's.
 
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