A lot of people conveniently forget about Dark Knight Returns, but that's a good point.
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A lot of people conveniently forget about Dark Knight Returns, but that's a good point.
They'll remember when the animated feature is released!
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I would have liked a scene with Bruce pouring gas all over the bridge just so he could have an awesome bat-symbol shot.
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The only one of the 15 things that bothered me was the SEC one (and not mentioned, the immediate effects of losing one's money). They towed his car the next day? Shit like that takes months or years to unravel, even assuming that the trade woulnd't be overturned (almost certainly) or that he could lose all hsi assets with one series of trades. Plus, fingerprints? No, no no. Electronic trading systems don't use fingerprints and they also track the sources of trades. A elaborate hacking scene would have made more sense (but no exciting action scene).
And if they spent time on Bruce getting back it would have made the movie *worse*. Too much in it as it was.
And if they spent time on Bruce getting back it would have made the movie *worse*. Too much in it as it was.
He trained for 7 years. Then was Batman for a year. Then took an 8 year break. Finally was Batman again for another 6 months.
When you put it like that, he was Batman for nothing more than a flash
He never knew. He just didn't want that guy screwing up his plans
Sounds like Spain jobs situation right now, 7 years practice, work for six month.
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For a bunch of those final 6 months he was stuck in a pit.
Better to burn out than fade away.
Correction. He was Batman again for a few days, then he got his back broken and thrown into a prison. He escaped a few months later, and became Batman again for a few hours.
Messypandas
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Well we know he travelled with gangs and was in a Chinese prison for a while. So he could have trained for way less than 7 years
Yea that's what I mean. 7 years of training can also have a rather negative affect on the body. The year he was Batman was just on top of all the other shit he went through so the fucked up stuff the doctor mentioned isn't exactly out of the blue.
Or maybe he called those guys who flew him to Hong Kong in TDK!
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Even a year of what Bruce as Batman would fuck a body up immensely if you look at it from Nolan's "real world" perspective.
Which, btw, must have been an awkward flight back. Batman, the HK pilots, Lau... just chilling...
Messypandas
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Anyone recall some of the crazy rumours circulating prior to release?
Ras burns down Bane's village at the start
Bane requires a mask because of smoke inhalation
Bruce lands a private jet on a motorway in Glasgow
Banes device is an earthquake machine
Ras burns down Bane's village at the start
Bane requires a mask because of smoke inhalation
Bruce lands a private jet on a motorway in Glasgow
Banes device is an earthquake machine
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Yeah when we walked into the theater was a sign that said the movie is 175 minutes and that they couldn't validate parking for the three hours. I could not believe the movie was three hours long.
I also sat next to a drunk guy who ate two hotdogs (he left! To go get another one half way through) and who kept shaking his popcorn bag violently and replying to emails. Not texts, emails. He had the sounds on.
Bane was the best part of the movie, I wish the scale had been smaller and been more about bane himself.
I also sat next to a drunk guy who ate two hotdogs (he left! To go get another one half way through) and who kept shaking his popcorn bag violently and replying to emails. Not texts, emails. He had the sounds on.
It was really cool, but the movie was moving soooo fucking quickly that they never lingered on anything to really let it sink in. The stakes were just constantly escalating, the movie was exhausting, definitely a masterful production, but I just don't know if I liked it all that much. And the ending was too obvious, anyone could tell he was gonna fly it out of there like a wrecking ball. That was straight of the Adam west batman.
Bane was the best part of the movie, I wish the scale had been smaller and been more about bane himself.
Chromatics - Into the Black is actually quite fitting to the series!
http://www.songlyrics.com/chromatics/into-the-black-lyrics/
CosmicGroinPull
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Nolan will fix it in the director's cut by putting in this scene from BB, only in reverse:
That it was going to be a great movie.
Yea there were a million of them.
Sorry I had to
When you put it like that, it makes it even more hilarious that Blake basically quit his job to take on this shit full time. He has NO idea wtf he's in for. I guess that's actually thematically consistent with Blake's character too. Idealistic, young, eager, earnest, kinda dumb, etc.
Inception 2. He's even holding the Totem!
Or the guys that flew him out of Hong Kong.
Maybe it's the same pilot for all those planes.
When you put it like that, it makes it even more hilarious that Blake basically quit his job to take on this shit full time. He has NO idea wtf he's in for. I guess that's actually thematically consistent with Blake's character too. Idealistic, young, eager, earnest, kinda dumb, etc.
I think Blake could have a longer career than Bruce. He won't take the physical pounding Bruce does. He'll have to rely more on brains, detective work and such than up close brawling like Bruce did.
Provided he doesn't straight up die week one, I could see Blake doing 5-10 years. Keep in mind that Blake's Gotham is sunshine and roses compared to Bruce's.
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When you put it like that, it makes it even more hilarious that Blake basically quit his job to take on this shit full time. He has NO idea wtf he's in for. I guess that's actually thematically consistent with Blake's character too. Idealistic, young, eager, earnest, kinda dumb, etc.
Seems like he'll take on a more detective role honestly. At least that's what they were hinting at. The guy can barely fight. He's not going to be taking on ten's of dozen's of goons. I feel he'd have a different approach.
I have a sneaking suspicion that Nolan is going to revisit this in ten years. Maybe more. He's not done here.
Christopher
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Batman Begins is so so good.
I can't place my finger on this what felt "off" about the film...it was a good movie and I appreicated that Nolan stayed on with most of the cast for all three...something just felt off abotu this one compared to the other two.
I think when the choas has reached that level it just seems a bit too hokey? Not sure taking my wife to see it tonight maybe a second viewing is needed.
I can't place my finger on this what felt "off" about the film...it was a good movie and I appreicated that Nolan stayed on with most of the cast for all three...something just felt off abotu this one compared to the other two.
I think when the choas has reached that level it just seems a bit too hokey? Not sure taking my wife to see it tonight maybe a second viewing is needed.
rollingstart
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Realistically (what?) Blake's duty would be to return all the inmates who escaped Blackgate. Sort of like how Batman's main duty after Begins was the return of Arkham's escapees.
Monumental
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Ok we get it. You've been pounding away at how atrocious those flashbacks are and how insulted you are by Nolan treating you like an infant.
And yet, after numerous people in this thread alone have told you that the flashbacks are quick reminders that help them recall events earlier in the trilogy and it really helped their understanding of some plot points, you still insist that its bad film-making.
But only now are you claiming it to be an opinion and something that only bother you. Before you were claiming that flashbacks are proof that Nolan can't communicate points. That it's a "FACT" that flashbacks are atrocious. Like so....
So once again, get off your high horse. You didn't like it. We understand. But spare us your snobby and overbearing tone about what's factually good film-making and story-telling.
It was super boring and nothing mattered until the end. That's what you're feeling.
I haven't read the whole thread but here are a few thoughts after seeing the film:
- I really think that Heath Ledger dying screwed over Nolan. At no point in the 2nd film did I get the feeling he wanted to come back to the League of Shadows thing. Therefore, I kinda feel that the tonal inconsistencies with this film and the previous two were Nolan trying to adapt the films and his plans to fit what had happened in real life (no Joker.) I could be totally wrong. My roommate said that he could see this whole movie being done either way, with the only change being that Joker would be running that courthouse rather than Scarecrow. I can't see that happening, but yeah... some can I guess.
- I wish that they hadn't done that with Talia. Either have her story take up more of the film or shorten up the film, have Bane be the rep of LoS, and go from there. It just kinda felt tacked on at the end.
- I'm shocked with how well they handled Catwoman. If nothing else this movie cements my idea that I'll never question Chris Nolan casting decisions ever again. Hardy as Bane was awesome.
I think the police could handle that one. Hopefully they won't send the entire force after one guy at a time though. That would be silly.
NO GUNS!
Just going back over the first few pages and lol at this.
This is just sad.
This is just sad.
MrPink93485
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When you put it like that, it makes it even more hilarious that Blake basically quit his job to take on this shit full time. He has NO idea wtf he's in for. I guess that's actually thematically consistent with Blake's character too. Idealistic, young, eager, earnest, kinda dumb, etc.
In other words, a hot head.
I sometimes wonder if you went to the correct theater.
I felt the same the first time. I don't think Nolan was able to really effectively convey what the hell this city would REALLY look like under a dictatorship. It got kinda amateurish and rushed when the shit hit the fan, instead of really examining the consequences of society falling apart. That stuff alone could fill out a 2.5 hour movie, so it was disappointing Nolan couldn't really wrangle that aspect perfectly.
The second time, that stuff bothered me less and I sort of just took it on its own merits.
The execution in this movie is way sloppier than Nolan's others (which have just as many flaws, but are usually smoothed over better), but it's still a good film with a nice emotional through-line.
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well aren't you precious!
Did it ever bother anyone else that Batman technically used a gun in both Begins and this film. It was with someone else's hand but still.
NullPointer
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Nah, they'll just reboot it again for no good reason and give us yet another origin story. Hollywood is reboot crazy.
My statement is a fact. Whether the statement applies to the terms of the film or not is debatable. I feel it does, some others agree with me, some others don't. For those who agree, it is a flaw, and hence it bothers us. There is no "high horse" here. If you don't agree, you're free to discuss it and argue it if you wish. Others have done so, and I can concede that it does not apply to everyone. You are the only one who is telling me to stop discussing it because you find my tone snobby and overbearing. Well, too bad, you'll have to deal with it or you can stop replying to my posts if you don't actually want to argue to discuss it. Tough.
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