Let me spoil it for you: there is no comparison.
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CFA response to anti-gay alleg. "Guilty as charged." Do NOT gloat about eating at CFA
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Let me spoil it for you: there is no comparison.
They make a chicken sandwich with pickles in the US? I need that.
Wuthering_Heights
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It's one thing for Chick-Fil-A to outright lie about the reasons why Jim Henson toys are no longer being sold.
But then to find out they hired a PR company to create fake facebook accounts and post supportive comments is just pathetic.
From what I'm told that's what Chick-Fil-A does.
Bay Maximus
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I've always thought Uncle Scrooge was on the down low.
saltywalrus
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Chick Fil A affects jobs and chicken more than it impacts gay rights.
The way I see it, Chick Fil A has a large positive impact and a small negative impact. Low-paying jobs are absolutely very important. According to the link in the original post, Chick Fil A donated $4 million to anti-gay groups. Chick Fil A 2011 revenue was $4 billion. They have over 1600 locations, I'm pretty sure their employees are making a lot more than $4 million.
Mercury Fred
Banned
You know, a smart fast food chain would make a copy-cat Chik sandwich and market it squarely against all of CFA's bigotry & gaffes.
If you're looking at economic benefits, the question to ask is what's the marginal benefit of Chick-Fil-A over another fast food restaurant?
The public isn't ready to support something built around that. Maybe on a local level, but not nationally.
EatinOlives
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Both of these things pissed me right off. They don't even have the decency to be honest about their bigotry. Cathy flaunted it like he didn't care then they turn right back around and pull this shit.
And yet none of this number crunching matters when any amount of money is going towards "causes" supporting hatred and intolerance. Gay communities are not going to give a fuck that a food chain is openly flaunting about supporting the trampling of their rights but hey, don't get too mad, because they make money and that's just more important than your rights.
but if chick-fil-a lost sales, wouldn't those sales be going somewhere else into another business? why does it mean there would be a loss in economical activity? if chick-fil-a actually was to go out of business over this boycott (lol do people actually think this?), demand would replace the restaurants with other restaurants.
Mercury Fred
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If it's done in a savvy way, it could totally work-- get the right clever name (disco chicken sandwich?), throw in some nods and winks and make it taste exactly the same and I could see it working.
They are not a unique and irreplaceable business. They are a fast food outlet. Another company would make up that slack.
saltywalrus
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Fast food places require large investments. It's pretty typical for one location to cost upward of $1 million. Not just any random person can open a high volume fast food place.
The economy is not a zero sum game. It is possible to grow the pie, or to shrink it. Personally, I know I would spend less money if Chick Fil A did not exist. In terms of fast food places Chick Fil A is one of the best.
Oh boy.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
So, they want to open up a Chik-Fil-A here in Logan Square in Chicago. The alderman for that ward pretty much said, "Nope. Not until you provide a non-discrimination statement for your joint. Oh, and for a reason, I will use traffic. Welcome to Chicago, bitches."
Hah, awesome.
Unfortunate.
Eh, all people that are banned for being trolling assholes, like that Minos guy, still come back and do the same thing again (sometimes more passive-aggressively). Just put anyone like that on ignore, it's much better and doesn't derail threads.
What are you basing this on?
Mr. Enigma
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Really? You were in every one of them?
Daydream Sequence
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Chik Fil As aren't located across the country. Where they appear to be most heavily concentrated are in states where their agenda is widely supported. Am I surprised that North Carolina is home to many many of their restaurants and that they're more than likely doing a brisque business there still? No, I am not.
He's got Chick'n Vis'n
Death Dealer
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They can be good but you have to get one made fresh. If it sits around for 10 minutes, the chicken meat is much less juicy and flavorful. I've ordered it 5-6 times, and half the time it's delicious and half the time it's just ok. I'm certain the difference was the amount of delay between the chicken getting fried and when it was given to me in a sandwich.
LyleLanley
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I'm not sure this would be as successful as you think it would.
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Now that I think of it the Big Gay Ice Cream Truck here in NYC seems to be pretty popular so who knows. I guess it all depends on location.
The only way I'd ever eat from CFA is if the other alternative was starving to death. I hope they go bankrupt and every one of their 1600 stores goes down in flames. As for the people who work for CFA, they can easily get another job at a different fast food chain. If they can't...contractors on the death star argument.
Mercury Fred
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Ha, funny. I'm in the city too. Just walked by the shop in the East Village on Sunday evening and there was a line a half block long to get in!
This city is awesome.
So good.
Unlike Chick-Fill-A, which is a mouthful of oil and salt. Seriously people, you should eat decently for once, and I don't mean morally.
Daydream Sequence
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Really? I never got that impression. Perhaps it differs from place to place, but oil and salt were never an issue for me. Otherwise I'd have stopped eating there. I found it to be properly seasoned and not even a little bit greasy. I'll never eat there again, but because of that place I now always put pickles on my homemade chicken sandwiches. So good.
SouthernDragon
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Religious organizations are protected, bigots or not.
Companies have no such status. People seem to be forgetting the primacy of the government.
Companies have no such status. People seem to be forgetting the primacy of the government.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
Just wanted to share me making my own Chik-fil-a sammiches in response to this bullshit. Ingredients are really easy.
Dry and wet mix.
Dill juice, red hot sauce with olive oil marinade.
Frying.
Mmmmm.
Dry and wet mix.
Dill juice, red hot sauce with olive oil marinade.
Frying.
Mmmmm.
Church's are protected. Corporations should not be given the same rights. It's bad enough have bigotry promoted under the guise of religion
This city is awesome.
I would like to sprinkle one ounce of that awesome on my town.
This city is awesome.
that's my mayor!
balladofwindfishes
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New York City had a 257 million dollar boost in the economy from allowing Gay Marriage. And that's one city in a state full of large cities.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-gay-marriage-20120725,0,1234925.story
I can't vote with my wallet. I have no CFA around me. I have no way to protest this behavoir. I have no recourse. And yet CFA's behavior can effect me and the people around me who also do not have a CFA.
This is why I hate "voting with your wallet" because in this case I have absolutely no way to do so, and yet CFA still has a way to effect me with national lobbying and stuff.
don't hold your breath.
Doctor West
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I say you're wrong. Denying an openly bigoted chain a place in a famous city is a step in the right direction. That's called progress.
HomerSimpson-Man
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It looks like it, but really it's not even close, the taste and especially the texture is extremely different. Plus they don't have the delicious sauce. It's not even in the same hemisphere as the original Chic-fil-a sandwich.
Freedom of speech is only ok when you like what they are saying right? This thread man wow.
Bigotry should not be protected.
and yet it is. Who are you to decide? That's the whole point of freedom of speech. Just like you have the freedom of not going to CFA.
Not allowing them to open a store is not prohibiting their speech.
He's saying that not bringing in more institutions that fight against gay rights is progress. Obviously they cant just go kicking out people and businesses that were already there.
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