3DS XL First Impressions/Previews

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Easy_D said:
But Nintendo said the speakers are exactly the same, only the shape of the speaker holes have changed.
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Lol. I don't know why you think that.

Look at the last Iwata asks. They are new rectanglular speakers, unique to the XL. Look at the transparent XL in the article to see them. They were a risk taken to keep the form factor they wanted for the console, and it hasn't paid off.
 
TheWednesday said:
OK, so just been playing on my 3DS XL. Infact, my last post on this forum above was posted from my 3DS 40 minutes ago. Just started playing Metal Gear Solid 3D, put the system down to go and grab a drink, come back to the console and this has happened.

Looks like an entire fucking line of dead pixels from the top of the screen to the bottom. Literally just appeared in the time it took me to put down my 3DS, grab a drink and come back to it.
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That is terrible! An entire line of dead pixels. Truly understand that you're pissed. Hopefully that doesn't happen to mine when it arrives :/

The speaker stuff is disappointing. Really like the 3DS speaker, so this is very disappointing news.
 
If more reports come out of screen problems and pixels like that, I may have to cancel my pre-order and hold out a little while longer til they get it fixed.
 
Almost forgot to ask... does anyone have any pics of Rayman Origins on the XL?

I imagine the game would become much more playable and look much nicer on the giant screen
 
richisawesome said:
Lol. I don't know why you think that.

Look at the last Iwata asks. They are new rectanglular speakers, unique to the XL. Look at the transparent XL in the article to see them. They were a risk taken to keep the form factor they wanted for the console, and it hasn't paid off.
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Oh well, is it as tinny as the original DSPhat? That was just bad.
 
MicH said:
The speaker stuff is disappointing. Really like the 3DS speaker, so this is very disappointing news.
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From the Iwata Asks, they had to change the form factor of the speakers to fit in the casing, so they couldn't use the 3DS ones. They said they tried some different methods to improve it, but it still wasn't quite as good as the 3DS ones.
 
TheWednesday said:
Just been looking at Nintendo's repair policy and apparently they have a 3-7 day turn around promise for repairs. Considering sending it to them. Does anyone have any particular positive or negative experience with Nintendo's repair process?
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If it's anything like my experience it won't be a repair. They'll ask you if you want to give them a credit card number to guarantee an exchange (that's the 3 day option where they send you a new 3DS and you send the broken one back in the box) or if you don't want to give them a CC you can send yours back and they'll send you a new one when they receive it.

I was really happy with Nintendo USA customer service but my experience with them was back in 2005 so things may have changed.
 
donny2112 said:
From the Iwata Asks, they had to change the form factor of the speakers to fit in the casing, so they couldn't use the 3DS ones. They said they tried some different methods to improve it, but it still wasn't quite as good as the 3DS ones.
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yeah they are smaller/thinner then a regular 3DS speaker, I guess earphones are a must if possible, or this thing.
 
TheWednesday said:
Just been looking at Nintendo's repair policy and apparently they have a 3-7 day turn around promise for repairs. Considering sending it to them. Does anyone have any particular positive or negative experience with Nintendo's repair process?
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Every time I saw someone comment about sending in for a repair to Nintendo they have posted back they have gotten it back within the range specified (US at least).

I know you are fuming about that line, but don't cut out the rest of the picture, I want to see that whole screenshot :P

Good luck, sorry you got a lemon.

PS. If anyone wants to post Ace Combat or Tales of the Abyss I would be endeared to them for the next few weeks!
 
richisawesome said:
AUX output is superb. Crystal clear on my earphones and amp, with excellent sheilding unlike previous Nintendo handhelds. Volume is loud through aux too.

The speakers are the issue. The low end is pumped up enough that the unit vibrates at times (most evident on Mario Kart), yet the mid range is absolutely shot. Horrible high end too, and to top it all off, its quieter than the original 3ds on full volume.


Anyway as a positive, I took my XL to the park today. Works much better in sunlight than the original.
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I see. Thanks for the info :)
 
TheWednesday said:
Just been looking at Nintendo's repair policy and apparently they have a 3-7 day turn around promise for repairs. Considering sending it to them. Does anyone have any particular positive or negative experience with Nintendo's repair process?
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Considering? Send it to them, without question! The general concensus is that Nintendo's customer service is one of the best in electronics... even if there is some posters here o GAF that experienced streetpass data loss after sending a 3DS to them.
 
Muffin Awesome said:
Every time I saw someone comment about sending in for a repair to Nintendo they have posted back they have gotten it back within the range specified (US at least).

I know you are fuming about that line, but don't cut out the rest of the picture, I want to see that whole screenshot :P

Good luck, sorry you got a lemon.

PS. If anyone wants to post Ace Combat or Tales of the Abyss I would be endeared to them for the next few weeks!
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I have TotA, so I'll grab some pics after I've played some Wario Land.
 
Sure hope the NA production line is better, its all coming from the same place I guess, so who knows. I hope I don't get dead pixels or scratched screens. :(
 
RPGCrazied said:
Sure hope the NA production line is better, its all coming from the same place I guess, so who knows. I hope I don't get dead pixels or scratched screens. :(
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This is my least favorite part of buying new electronics. Will I get a good screen? Will all the buttons work? Dead pixels? Screen too warm?

What makes it worse with Nintendo's 3DS/XL is that if you don't catch one of the issues before doing a transfer, you've just wasted one of the transfers that they allow, and if your goal is to return it to a store you have to hope that they're nice enough to let you transfer all your stuff to the replacement XL.
 
TheWednesday said:
Just been looking at Nintendo's repair policy and apparently they have a 3-7 day turn around promise for repairs. Considering sending it to them. Does anyone have any particular positive or negative experience with Nintendo's repair process?
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wouldn't it be easier to just return it to the store and get a new one since you just bought it?
 
Daydream Sequence said:
This is my least favorite part of buying new electronics. Will I get a good screen? Will all the buttons work? Dead pixels? Screen too warm?

What makes it worse with Nintendo's 3DS/XL is that if you don't catch one of the issues before doing a transfer, you've just wasted one of the transfers that they allow, and if your goal is to return it to a store you have to hope that they're nice enough to let you transfer all your stuff to the replacement XL.
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Yeah, I'm getting it online too.. would be an extra pain in the ass if I have to ship it back and get a new one.
 
Stealth20k said:
They dont scratch unless you press
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Enough with the defense-force shit on this situation. It's NOT the user's fault that their 3DS screens are constantly being smudged or scratched by the lower screen. It's a design/build error. I put my 3DS in my pocket gently as I have every other handheld I've owned, and the top screen constantly has an impression of the lower portion on it where it rubbed. That's not my fault.
 
Ken Masters said:
wouldn't it be easier to just return it to the store and get a new one since you just bought it?
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Not if he already did a system transfer. You can only transfer data every seven days so he'd have to wait a week regardless. And like he said, he'd have to transfer back to his original 3DS then wait a week and transfer back to his new XL, thus wasting two of the five available transfers and two weeks. Or he could send it to Nintendo, get it fixed, have it back in a little over a week and not waste two transfers.
 
Easy_D said:
But Nintendo said the speakers are exactly the same, only the shape of the speaker holes have changed.
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Iwata Asks:
Fujita

On a graph of acoustic characteristics, they aren't exactly identical to the Nintendo 3DS speakers. The speaker size is smaller than that of the ones on the 3DS so sonically it had a disadvantage. But by fine-tuning the structure and capabilities of the speakers itself, and then optimizing the sound with the software, we tried to have them sound like the ones on the 3DS as closely as possible.
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Have any news sites done a story on the problems yet? Asked Nintendo for a comment?

Second, for the speakers, how bad is bad? Will I be thinking "oh, I notice the quality is worse" or "this sounds horrible, where are my headphones?"
 
Ken Masters said:
wouldn't it be easier to just return it to the store and get a new one since you just bought it?
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Yes, but I don't want to lose my system data or paid for games and downloads.

I think I have a new plan, anyway. I'm going to confirm HMV will actually give me a full refund for a faulty system (the website says they will, but I want to ask my local store myself), and if they will, I'm going to wait a week and buy a new 3DS XL, transfer the data between the two, then return my faulty console. It'll still be within the 21 day return period and the 7 day limit for transfers will have expired meaning I can get my data across to the new system.

I need to find a game to play this week that makes this line of defunct pixels as inoffensive and discreet as possible. Clearly MGS3D isn't it.
 
Drago said:
Almost forgot to ask... does anyone have any pics of Rayman Origins on the XL?

I imagine the game would become much more playable and look much nicer on the giant screen
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Downloading the demo right now. Will post pics in next few minutes.
 
AndyMoogle said:
Perhaps, but it's still a design flaw. I doubt it requires more pressure than what you get from keeping it in your pocket. No other Nintendo handheld got scratched screens because of some pressure. It's 100% Nintendo's fault.

I don't have any scratches on my 3DS, but the lower screen will leave marks on the top screen as soon as I close the lid.
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Yeah actually mine did. It happens

Again, I havent met anyone in real time whose its happened to

Can it happen? sure why not.

But people need to be careful
 
richisawesome said:
Played on my 3DS XL for a good 15 hours now.


The speakers are shit. A REAL downgrade. Everything else is better than the original, but the new rectangular speaker tech is poor as hell.

I don't care what reviews you've read that might not mention it - I own the sodding thing. Unlike myself, you don't own a 3DS XL. The sound is bad.


End of.
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sorry if you feel that way, I just havent seen it mentioned at all in reviews
 
Stealth20k said:
Yeah actually mine did. It happens

Again, I havent met anyone in real time whose its happened to

Can it happen? sure why not.

But people need to be careful
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Careful of what? The only way to guarantee that you didn't get a 3DS with scratched/smudged screens was to never buy a 3DS.

gashikunFLCL said:
I was wrong about the blue and red, they're beatiful.
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I was staunchly blue for a month, and now I'm on Team Red. They do look nice.
 
My plan is to wait about a week after buying one before transferring to see how it is and if any problems arise.

Normally when I get dead pixels, they're like right away. The "scratches" aren't scratches, they can be rubbed off with a good cloth, better with a teeny drip of water.

As for the warm screens, I've decided I'm going to prefer those, but I'd like to know how I can test to see if they're optimized on both screens so one's not dominant and not too warm-colored.
 
Daydream Sequence said:
Enough with the defense-force shit on this situation. It's NOT the user's fault that their 3DS screens are constantly being smudged or scratched by the lower screen. It's a design/build error. I put my 3DS in my pocket gently as I have every other handheld I've owned, and the top screen constantly has an impression of the lower portion on it where it rubbed. That's not my fault.
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Its not defense force, I am speaking with experience

Yeah it is there fault if they press so hard it makes the line. Ive treated my system with respect, and I havent had any issues. Nor has anyone in any of the gamestops I frequent or events. Really the only place I hear about it is forums

no lie


Daydream Sequence said:
Careful of what? The only way to guarantee that you didn't get a 3DS with scratched/smudged screens was to never buy a 3DS.



I was staunchly blue for a month, and now I'm on Team Red. They do look nice.
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that aint true. Ive never met anyone in real life whose had screen issues. I am just saying from experience.


fyi, dont get so angry, its only gaming

So we are clear I am not saying it doesnt happen, or the people it does happen too its made up.
 
This thing really does give some games a new lease of life. Star Fox in particular looks really good. Barely touched the game since I bought it yet I've just played it for 4 hours straight.
 
donny2112 said:
From the Iwata Asks, they had to change the form factor of the speakers to fit in the casing, so they couldn't use the 3DS ones. They said they tried some different methods to improve it, but it still wasn't quite as good as the 3DS ones.
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Welp. There you go. I will not get the 3DS XL. Speakers are too important to me. I just don't like using headphones with game.

So its between a Vita and a U for me.

Anywayz: What is with Nintendo's build quality lately? The 3DS had the screen mushing issue (which thankfully hasn't affected me aside from smudges that I wipe off.) horrible start/select/home buttons. And the XL seems to have the mushing and bad speakers. Not to mention it really does look cheap. I thought it was because I just didn't want another black hamdheld but even the white looks kinda cheap...

Where is my awesome Gameboy Pocket/GBA/GBASP/Micro/DS/DSi/DSiXL build quality Nintendo? I hope the Wii U doesn't have any stupid problems.

I...I don't think Nintendo cares about hardware anymore.
 
Stealth20k said:
fyi, dont get so angry, its only gaming

So we are clear I am not saying it doesnt happen, or the people it does happen too its made up.
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It's not anger at all. I'm just shocked at your cluelessness. Your point is that anyone whose screens are scratched/smudged are the direct result of their own inability to care for their device. That's dumb. I'd wager that the people here, like myself, that experienced the problem never sat on, pressed on etc etc the 3DS. It's shitty design. The issue was so bad that Amazon stopped carrying it. Attempts to minimize it by saying you never experienced the issue doesn't change the fact that many people did. Enough so that a major retailer had to pull it. It's like saying the DS Lites didn't have a design flaw in the hinges because mine never fell apart in my hands as it did for thousands of other people.
 
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Most of the pics I took ended up looking like shit, but these should give you an idea what the game looks like.
 
Stealth20k said:
Its not defense force, I am speaking with experience

Yeah it is there fault if they press so hard it makes the line. Ive treated my system with respect, and I havent had any issues. Nor has anyone in any of the gamestops I frequent or events. Really the only place I hear about it is forums

no lie




that aint true. Ive never met anyone in real life whose had screen issues. I am just saying from experience.


fyi, dont get so angry, its only gaming
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I returned my 3DS to customer service and the person I spoke on the phone said that every 3DS with vertical scratches on the screens will be replaced. I'm very carefull regarding my consoles, and I never ever pressed on the console or wasn't being carefull,but mine got scratched too. It's a design flaw, simple as that.

I got a brand new 3DS ( installed a screenprotector for both screens ) and now the upper screen ( well at least the protectors ) are scratched again. When I did not install the screenprotectors, the upper screen would have been scratched again.
 
Daydream Sequence said:
It's not anger at all. I'm just shocked at your cluelessness. Your point is that anyone whose screens are scratched/smudged are the direct result of their own inability to care for their device. That's dumb. I'd wager that the people here, like myself, that experienced the problem never sat on, pressed on etc etc the 3DS. It's shitty design. The issue was so bad that Amazon stopped carrying it. Attempts to minimize it by saying you never experienced the issue doesn't change the fact that many people did. Enough so that a major retailer had to pull it. It's like saying the DS Lites didn't have a design flaw in the hinges because mine never fell apart in my hands as it did for thousands of other people.
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Its the truth though. Lets say it is a design flaw and you know it could happen. Be more careful is all I am saying.

Amazon stopped carrying it but dozens of retailers on amazon still did and amazon is carrying the xl I believe. So That really isnt a gigantic deal.

You see the hinge actually did happen to me after about 5 years of constant use.

Steve McQueen said:
I returned my 3DS to customer service and the person I spoke on the phone said that every 3DS with vertical scratches on the screens will be replaced. I'm very carefull regarding my consoles, and I never ever pressed on the console or wasn't being carefull,but mine got scratched too. It's a design flaw, simple as that.

I got a brand new 3DS ( installed a screenprotector for both screens ) and now the upper screen ( well at least the protectors ) are scratched again. When I did not install the screenprotectors, the upper screen would have been scratched again.
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Pictures? Again, its just never happened to me. I am gifted
 
Daydream Sequence said:
It's not anger at all. I'm just shocked at your cluelessness. Your point is that anyone whose screens are scratched/smudged are the direct result of their own inability to care for their device. That's dumb. I'd wager that the people here, like myself, that experienced the problem never sat on, pressed on etc etc the 3DS. It's shitty design. The issue was so bad that Amazon stopped carrying it. Attempts to minimize it by saying you never experienced the issue doesn't change the fact that many people did. Enough so that a major retailer had to pull it. It's like saying the DS Lites didn't have a design flaw in the hinges because mine never fell apart in my hands as it did for thousands of other people.
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Uh, you know Amazon doesn't personally sell and stock any Nintendo systems right? The only things on there are from 3rd party retailers that sell through them.
 
bitoriginal said:
I think DS games look pretty good tbh, and if you want 1:1 then it's actually a playable size. It's too early to determine the fate of my DSI XL though...
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I will probably go stretched mode, it seems fine.

I just want to consolidate systems as best I can

AndyMoogle said:
Most of the pics I took ended up looking like shit, but these should give you an idea what the game looks like.
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Those screen shots look amazing thanks

I kinda want someone to put a devil survivor overclocked one up
 
The OG 3DS did have an inherent design flaw with the lower screen bezel. However, I think the XL totally fine, the top screen does not make contact with the bezel.
 
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