Players look good, ai for all the players on the pitch physics for the ball the players etc etc crowd is the last thing on there minds and so it should. All extra ummmph should be going to ai and such rather than things you only see in replays or set plays.
Fifa 13 - uses Wii U friendslist; better pitch and crowd; missing a few features
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Players look good, ai for all the players on the pitch physics for the ball the players etc etc crowd is the last thing on there minds and so it should. All extra ummmph should be going to ai and such rather than things you only see in replays or set plays.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
And I like how bothered you are by someone on a message board making a joke about a video game system. Quit being so serious and taking people joking about Nintendo so seriously.
If you play FIFA, you can tell they don't really invest any efforts in the visual part of the game. They only focus on gameplay, that's very good, but the visual aspect of the game is really starting to suck.
I don't see them making any huge changes until the next-gen consoles are out and selling well, tho.
PES is working on a new version of the game using the Fox engine, that should put some pressure on EA to make FIFA a little bit more good looking.
Lets hope so, the demo from this years game is a step in the right direction.
walking fiend
Member
it's ok when it's every now and then, but when it's in every Wii U thread to the point of derailing almost every one of them, it gets frustrating. Why do people care to post their 'jokes' in every thread about Wii U if it's not important, is beyond me...
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Because many on GAF enjoy video games, like discussing them, but dont take it that serious. And its not just Nintendo. Go into an EA thread, Square, Vita, etc. nintendo isnt treated any differently.
test_account
XP-39C²
Do you have any examples of where physics are exactly the same in PS2 and PS3 games? You say most devs, but you only have to give 4-5 examples.
The 2nd screen is just a menu from what i've seen. This doesnt require much extra rendering. When you have other things on both screens, i believe that it just mirrors the image, so it doesnt render it twice. They say in the video interview i linked to earlier that somone had the idea that it would be cool if you could have a different view on the touch screen, but it wasnt possible (for now at least) because they didnt have extra hardware power to do that extra rendering.
Oh, how I'd like this to be true.
Bony Manifesto
Member
I believe there's at least one point in EA's presentation of this where the two screens were showing different in-game views (during a free kick if I recall correctly).
ColdBlooder
Banned
Seriously? Gaming is the most important thing to most people on here. At least thats my impression.
The Bookerman
Member
It's just that I found it ridiculous that there'd be 4 HUGE light sources in one stadium to pull of that kind of effect. like 4 BIG Batsignal type of lights in each corner of a Stadium. Makes no sense. It was a simple observation. Not here to troll Wii U, as I want one this fall.
Jaded Alyx
Member
In all seriousness though, FIFA and other sports games have been doing this for years. Have you really only just noticed?
test_account
XP-39C²
I didnt see the whole precentation, but they show segments of it in the Gametrailers.com video interview. I didnt see 2 different views going on at the same time. There are some movements in the menu on the touchscreen, but that is more like "Flash graphics" (or what i shall call it), not a second render of the actual game.
The FIFA guy says it here at around 3:50 in this video :
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/qs8rzb/fifa-soccer-13-wii-u-differences-interview
Snowden's Secret
Banned
There are a few posters that as soon as they show up, a thread is dead. I saw one of them near the bottom of the first page and yup, theory confirmed when I clicked through to page two.
On topic, I couldn't really care less about the graphics in a game like this, so higher crowd res is whatever. New gameplay features sound neat though, but I wish we knew more about Wii U's online in general so I could contextualize it all.
On topic, I couldn't really care less about the graphics in a game like this, so higher crowd res is whatever. New gameplay features sound neat though, but I wish we knew more about Wii U's online in general so I could contextualize it all.
Bony Manifesto
Member
Uh, that's pretty much exactly what floodlights are.
http://www.footballx.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Reebok-Stadium.jpg
Okay, the way its handled in FIFA isn't totally realistic (and Stamford Bridge has different lighting anyway), but of all the inaccurate things in the game, I don't think it's the shadows specifically you should be calling out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6yopCIoVXQ&t=2m32s
Jaded Alyx
Member
The Bookerman
Member
In all seriousness though, FIFA and other sports games have been doing this for years. Have you really only just noticed?
In a FIFA stadium? If you look at the picture, at most you see 2 shadows.
I'm not a football/soccer fan. That's thing that popped up for me when I saw those screenshots.
davidsaurus
Member
I hope the PC version gets these high res textures.
test_account
XP-39C²
Thanks. Is there a video of this?
By the way, how do i keep a quoted picture steady? If i click on it, it goes to the original size, but as soon as i try to navigate the picture, it just minimize again.
Throwaway123456789
Member
Have you never been to a stadium before? Four "bat signal" arrays of floodlights in each corner of the pitch is SUPER common.
Jaded Alyx
Member
test_account
XP-39C²
I'm on a laptop with only a touchpad now, so i cant scroll :\ (i think?). But i'll keep in mind that i can open it in a 2nd tab, thanks
Thanks for the video. I see that there is indeed a 2nd render there. It looks like the touchscreen shows much less details (like it looks darker, probably turns off extra light sources), so i guess that it works fine when there are "still" situations like that. Not trying to downplay it at all, but it doesnt render the game twice all the time.
butter_stick
Banned
Maybe because Wii U is coming out 7 years after a system that looks as good graphically.
So you troll on Nintendo, because some people also troll in other threads...
And you think it's fun.
When done right, perhaps, sometimes.
When done wrong #LOL, you must know it's not.
The Bookerman
Member
Did you read my previous posts? I want a Wii U. I don't see how, in any of my posts, i'm taking shots at the Wii U. Seriously.
At what point do people stop thinking this is an interesting or novel idea?
SNES games at launch looked worse than SNES games at the launch of the Playstation.
Playstation 2 games at launch looked worse than Playstation 2 games at the launch of the Xbox.
Xbox 360 games at launch looked worse than Xbox 360 games currently do at the impending launch of the WiiU.
This is the nature of game development.
Always-honest
Banned
You have never ever been in a sports stadium have you?
butter_stick
Banned
SNES games at launch looked better than the final NES games
PSX games at launch looked better than the final SNES games
PS2 games at launch looked better than the final PSX games
PS3 games at launch looked better than the final PS2 games
Wii U games at launch look as good as the final PS3 games.
Cool.
It's obvious that most graphics seen in released WiiU footage is graphically similar to current generation consoles. So, what exactly are you adding to the discussion here?
We all get how you feel. WiiU graphics not good! Need look better than PS3/360!
It all looks like you really want to say how much the WiiU sucks but are scared to because you'll be accused of tolling.
Also your rebuttal is short sided and doesn't really address his statement. Games did look better at the end of generations than at the beginning. Your points are not mutually exclusive and you didn't prove him wrong.
This really shouldn't come as a surprise.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Same bums trolling these threads everytime. Nothing new.
Snowden's Secret
Banned
What is this I don't even
Wii U games at launch look better than final Wii games. Done.
Wii U is not trying to be a PC lite, it has a different ambition. As emotionally attached to Nintendo as you are, I doubt you are getting that.
I would have said the same thing last year if you asked me. However, If you watch real matches on TV, you will see this effect.
butter_stick
Banned
Wii U sucks right now. I won't get banned for saying that. When it has a Mario Galaxy it will not suck.
Fact is I got dragged in to this thread by some bro quoting me from another thread. I'm the one being targeted here. The only agenda is an anti butter_stick one.
Well it does have Mario Galaxy...you know with it being playable on it and all.
And you got dragged there?
Do you have a butter_stick signal like batman?
I still prefer the minimalim of Starfox or Stunt Race Fx to the jumble mess of the psx.
The game part also sucked so that didn't help.
The Main Event
Member
Final SNES games looked better than 32X, 3DO and Jaguar.
ColdBlooder
Banned
Launch titles on a new system tend to barely push the system...
Thought i let you know...
By the looks of it, you should already know
butter_stick
Banned
Skyward Sword doesn't look much better than Twilight Princess.
And the Wii isn't much better than the Gamecube. The jump from those two games is what you'd expect from the jump of those two consoles.
For god's sake, man. Stop poking him. He will never stop. Let's get this thread back on track.
In the same way that FFXII doesn't look much better than FFX
You're insane
Only 2 more posts and he'll be the biggest contributor to this thread.
What does that say about it?
butter_stick
Banned
And Wii U isn't much better than 360. Do you see?
It's one thing to say a positive interview must be a lie/a Nintendo moneyhat.
The day anyone can get in any thread and tell others the console they are interested in sucks... will be a bad day for GAF.
butter_stick
Banned
An unreleased console with an average line up obviously sucks. You don't judge consoles by their launches. But you also have to earn your assent from sucktitude.
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