I have a question as far as the new fitness videos go... Knowing you can be fit AND strong with kettlebell training, WHY would someone want to do P90x and really only get the "look". Those fitness videos Certianly will not make you strong. I am not saying you have to get strong in the extreme, but if you could have both doing kettlebells, and OWN p90x, insanity and all the others (and they could not cross over to that type of training and own kettlebells) why would you NOT do that? Really, to each their own, just wanted to hear some thoughts.
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That's it, I'm quitting my job to hang out at the playground....
Seriously I need to do more core exercises
I'm looking into getting into kettlebells myself, but I would guess the reasons for going with P90x/Insanity are the fact that kettlebells are: expensive, not very portable and not a wide variety of people to train with/learn from.
For a poor college kid, "borrowing" a copy of one of those programs seems like the most cost-effective way to get into shape. Plus, it wouldn't be too hard to find people that are doing the same thing.
Thanks.
For a poor college kid, "borrowing" a copy of one of those programs seems like the most cost-effective way to get into shape. Plus, it wouldn't be too hard to find people that are doing the same thing.
Thanks.
seattle6418
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I know everybody knows this, but sleeping well makes a huge difference. I was dragging myself for the last two weeks everytime i went to the gym, and then from friday to saturday i slept for 11 houres.
Gym on saturday was awesome. Felt like a boss, doing extra exercises and such.
Too bad i can´t sleep more than 7 hours on regular days, always end up staying up late.
Gym on saturday was awesome. Felt like a boss, doing extra exercises and such.
Too bad i can´t sleep more than 7 hours on regular days, always end up staying up late.
Poindexter
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How far down do you guys usually go on bench press?
I've always lightly touched the chest (no bouncing) but today I decided to stop about 1-2 inches from the chest. I feel much more exhausted in my chest and a dull shoulder pain I've always had is now gone. I think I'm going to keep doing this now. Also, it doesn't hurt that I can do more reps this way. Haha Good for my ego
I've always lightly touched the chest (no bouncing) but today I decided to stop about 1-2 inches from the chest. I feel much more exhausted in my chest and a dull shoulder pain I've always had is now gone. I think I'm going to keep doing this now. Also, it doesn't hurt that I can do more reps this way. Haha Good for my ego
I go all the wat and pause before I push up.
If you live in teh US, check out onnit.com for pretty good prices on kettlebells:
http://www.onnit.com/kettlebells/
The good thing about these fitness videos is that they get you into a routine. It keeps you motivated to wanting to do more and better. p90x is pretty good for beginners who are lazy etc. You just press play and follow along. With kettle bells, many people would be confused how to do each exercise, how long etc. (Obviously you can get kettlebell dvds, but I'm just comparing p90x as a whole vs kettlebells on their own)
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ZombieFred
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Be sure, when you give me a 600 calorie cake you can expect me to go Quake god mode on your ass with the treadmill and semi run for in high cardio for over 15 miles. My new record <3
I touch my chest. You feel the muscle exhaustion more if you stay a couple inches above your chest because that split second where its on your chest is a resting period. If you eliminate that then you keep the tension on your chest 100% of the time.
seattle6418
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I can´t even imagine this, so i have a question: is this on a single rep or you guys are doing those insane weights in 4 sets of 10 (or something).
I´m asking because i´m doing it in 4 sets of 10 reps and i can´t even imagine going above 200 in the future. Also, i don´t see anyone doing this in the gym, even the huge guys working out aren´t doing much more weight when they are doing sets of reps.
Maybe it´s a cultural thing in america, but it is a single rep, right? (the 265 and 350 thing).
Same here, I don't fully rest nor do I ( god help me ) bounce the bar on my chest as if it was made of flubber like certain people do.
Spiritreaver
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Does anyone else sweat a lot? I've always been a terrible sweater and it just increases tenfold when I'm doing anything that requires physical exertion. Took a really slowly paced, half hour walk to class at 8 AM in slightly humid weather... I was dripping when I got to class.
The gym has been even worse. It's always so busy, so it's a lot warmer than usual due to the body heat given off by everyone. Even after a warmup set I'm already soaked. Sucks.
EDIT: I get just above hitting my chest and push back up immediately. Same with flat DB presses.
The gym has been even worse. It's always so busy, so it's a lot warmer than usual due to the body heat given off by everyone. Even after a warmup set I'm already soaked. Sucks.
EDIT: I get just above hitting my chest and push back up immediately. Same with flat DB presses.
Hey guys I was just wondering if anyone knows a thing or two about BSN Evotest?
My brother in law bought me a bottle of it, said it's the new thing everyone is taking at the gym and how it's so effective. Did some research on it and about 2 minutes later I find myself on like anabolic steroid forums where they're talking about PCT cycles and all this.
Now I'm kind of freaked out to take this stuff. I'm only 22 years old so a testosterone booster seems kind of unnecessary.
My brother in law bought me a bottle of it, said it's the new thing everyone is taking at the gym and how it's so effective. Did some research on it and about 2 minutes later I find myself on like anabolic steroid forums where they're talking about PCT cycles and all this.
Now I'm kind of freaked out to take this stuff. I'm only 22 years old so a testosterone booster seems kind of unnecessary.
Rice-Eater
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Yes, it's a single rep. It was all about bragging rights, we had a board with people names on it. Only the top 5 guys with the highest single reps for each type of lift would get there name up there. But you had to take weight lifting class for it to count. In the top 5 of benching, 405 was the best and 275 was 5th(I went to a small school). I wanted so much to be tied for 5th place but I couldn't quite reach it. This is why my bro's name wasn't up there, he never took weight lifting class and achieved his maximum single rep with only friends around.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
The souls of lesser beings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqYmcYBPt2s
Between 1:00 and 1:50ish. Great lower back stretch. I can't listen to the audio right now so I'm not sure what she's saying, but what you want to do is plant your hands and pull back with your glutes and legs letting your palms grip the ground, don't move your hands. If you aren't getting a good enough stretch go back to the neutral position and move your hands forward and then do it again.... don't move your hands forward while you are in the "pulled back" position because it kind of ruins the point.
Also that's a nice video... mmm hmm.
I'm an expert
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Nothing.
Black coffee to make squats extra interesting.
FallingEdge
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I am absolutely awful when it comes to sweating. I don't even have to be that hot but sweat just drips off of me. I feel your pain and it sucks.
Coffee or beta alanine. Beta alanine is great btw.
9 reps @ 150 OHP. Yeah buddy.
Many thanks for this great answer!
I'm actually male. My weight has been constant at 120 pounds for years, and I was very happy with my stature. Somehow I managed to put on those 20 lbs within estimately the last 12 months even though I didn't change my eating habits in any way and I didn't move less than before.
I'm gonna try your proposed diet, though I hope I'm not too weak-minded. For the next few days I'm gonna write down how much calories I eat daily. I can't even estimate it, no idea.
This may be a stupid question, but what weight would you recommend to lift, for starters? I'm really weak. Heavier ones for more exertion but less endurance or lighter ones for the opposite? During some workouts, I lifted eight-pound dumbbells thirty times with each arm, then I had to stop because of the muscle ache.
Keeping up the sweaty bros talk, I'm curious if anyone who considered themselves sweat-prone as a heavier person found themselves much less prone to sweating once they shed a lot of the weight. I'm probably not considered heavy anymore but I'm still likely to sweat a ton when workng out, and even when not working out it's pretty easy for me to find myself sweating to the point I'm worried about the type of shirt I'm wearing. Hoping once I hit my fitness goals this sort of ceases, but I'm thinking I might just be stuck with it.
There's a ton of info in the OP post(s). I suggest you start by reading that
Okay my hip flexor pain is starting to annoy me. I've been trying to stretch and massage it a bit but it hasn't gone anywhere. Doesn't bother me that much normally but I can feel it some times when I'm squatting. I don't feel it with the work weights but instead when I'm warming up with squats and of course later in the day when I move around. I just tried and it hurts when I move my leg to the side (abduction?). If I lift my leg up while standing so that my thigh is parallel to the ground and then turn my leg to the side it hurts bad.
I'm just worried that it will get worse which isn't good since I'd like to be able to squat pain free. I'm also planning a cut sometime during the autumn and I can't cut if I can't squat..
FallingEdge
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[]Rob10111 717 points 3 hours ago*
Three best exercises for putting on overall mass?
[]TheTerryCrews 1419 points 3 hours ago
Squats Power Cleans Pull ups
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[]Rob10111 717 points 3 hours ago*
Three best exercises for putting on overall mass?
[]TheTerryCrews
Squats Power Cleans Pull ups
LOVE IT.
I think you want to go kind of hungry. The last thing you ate being 4 hours ago.
1 lb of turkey. It helps balances out the 240 mg of caffeine I ingest.
vatstep
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Lane, I was hoping this would be the case for me, but it hasn't been. I sweat more than ever. I actually didn't know this until recently, but the better the shape you're in, the more you're likely to sweat, as your body becomes more efficient at cooling itself. Just do a Google search for "better shape sweat more" or something to that effect and check out the articles.
This summer has been especially annoying for this very reason. The feeling of sweat literally dripping down my back and legs, even when just standing in a crowded train, is a disgusting and entirely new feeling for me. I never asked for this, damn it!
Spiritreaver
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Same deal here, I sweat a lot more than when I was heavier.
So yeah, look forward to it Lane!
Hah, shit. Well, I suppose I'm okay with going from "sweats a lot" to "sweats even more and looks good". That's surprising on some level but also makes sense too.
If it comes with being more fit and trim, then heck yeah, looking forward to being even more of a disgusting sweat monster.
Syph Medwes
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Repost for new page since I hurt my back again today at hockey. (fuckkkkk)
Etrian Oddity
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Apart from planks, what are good core exercises that don't have back implications? (Eg, situps, crunches, etc)
Khalifa Jayy
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Laying leg lifts
Bicycles
Seated Lifts on a Chair (basically, sit on a chair then use your arms to lift your butt off the seat and try to keep your legs as high as you can)
Dumbbell Side Bends (for obliques)
Leg raises is my favorite ab exercise. I'm going to try hanging leg raises today which looks even better.
I know a lot of people from the P90X thread that would disagree with you about those videos not making you strong (I'd be one of them). I mean, you're not going to get body builder strong, sure, but if you give your all and keep increasing your weight, reps, and form there is zero reason those programs won't make a lot of people quite a bit stronger.
It certainly isn't the end all be all of fitness, nor does it profess to be, but I've had a lot of success with it and had to reply as such.
Rice-Eater
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Read the op like despire says, it will help.
As for some of the other things you said. I don't know if you fit this description but I assume you were skinny all your life, you could eat as much as you want but never gain weight. I knew people like that, and eventually time goes on and there metabolism no longer operates like it use to and they'll start getting fat if they don't take care of themselves. That may or may not be you, but whether it is or not I guess your metabolism is slowing down regardless so you have to be eat less or be more active to maintain your weight.
Honestly, at your size I would recommend doing more weight lifting than cardio. Just lift a lot of light weight, about 3 sets of 10 or so with short rest breaks inbetween(lets say no more than 2 minutes). Since you're lacking in strength, keep the weight low. Just do what you can and gradually try to build your way up. Doing it this way can be just as good if not better than actual cardio plus you'd be building up your body more. I don't know if you want build your body a little bigger(in a more muscular way) or just go back to being a really skinny small guy, but you'll at least get more lean this way and get rid of some of the fat that you've gained here and there.
TheDarkStark
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335 lb deadlifts 8 times, and it felt EASY.
If my grip didn't give out I probably could have done another 8. Gotta keep working at that grip.
If my grip didn't give out I probably could have done another 8. Gotta keep working at that grip.
SerArthurDayne
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I feel like I hit a mental block on deadlifts today, so I had to do less. I did 225 a couple of times on Sunday, but I aggravated a twinge in my back that has been bothering me for a couple of months. Today I could only get 185 up. I had 205 but I couldn't even move it, I think I was too scared of hurting my back for real.
Anyways, 185, did higher reps than usual, and back felt great, so I will try 205 again next time.
Also, a new high for squats, 3X5 at 155. I'll probably stick there for a bit, because I was feeling it a lot more than I was 135 this weekend. This is the highest I have ever been, but I was always terrible at squats, and this is the first time I've made an earnest effort over several weeks to improve it.
3 weeks in to my program now, and still enjoying it. Also trying to do Yoga once a week to complement it.
My biggest problem today was a lack of energy. On my bench for example, I would barely get my final rep up, but after I racked it I felt fine. I lacked energy rather than strength. I think maybe jumping my squat weight up sapped more than I anticipated, perhaps.
Anyways, 185, did higher reps than usual, and back felt great, so I will try 205 again next time.
Also, a new high for squats, 3X5 at 155. I'll probably stick there for a bit, because I was feeling it a lot more than I was 135 this weekend. This is the highest I have ever been, but I was always terrible at squats, and this is the first time I've made an earnest effort over several weeks to improve it.
3 weeks in to my program now, and still enjoying it. Also trying to do Yoga once a week to complement it.
My biggest problem today was a lack of energy. On my bench for example, I would barely get my final rep up, but after I racked it I felt fine. I lacked energy rather than strength. I think maybe jumping my squat weight up sapped more than I anticipated, perhaps.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
today was the busiest day the in the park where I go jogging. At the end of the path, there's equipment for everyone to use, the regular weightlifting stuff.
we were like 10 guys sharing equipment and I noticed I was the only one who gives a damn about legs and abs I don't even focus on that, I just try to not neglect those muscles, everyone seems to be obsessed with the chest and bicep combo.
if anyone here has that mindset, please don't. Is never late to take care of your body properly.
we were like 10 guys sharing equipment and I noticed I was the only one who gives a damn about legs and abs I don't even focus on that, I just try to not neglect those muscles, everyone seems to be obsessed with the chest and bicep combo.
if anyone here has that mindset, please don't. Is never late to take care of your body properly.
and quite frankly, decenty chest/arms with a massive gut and chicken legs doesn't look good
SerArthurDayne
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Dude, you are describing like 80% of the population of men that go to the gym. Especially High School age, guys.
themadhatter444
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Just updating for my own personal goal setting/tracking.
Back from an injury with a VENGENCE. 4 consecutive days of super intense kettlebell/battlerope/sprint/jump rope max effort circuits. Yesterday was the first time I have literally collapsed after a burnout set of battle ropes. Feels good, man. My post injury/post vacation break is over and I'm gunning for an intense September. I've had great success with training only 2x a week at max effort, but doing 4 on 3 off feels like it could be the perfect balance of volume vs intensity. I'm in Vegas the next three days on business, so I'm going to rest up to avoid overtraining.
Yesterday's zombie prep circuit was as follows:
(With 35# kettlebell)
25 jump rope
30 battle rope slams
2 Turkish get ups
20 halos (kettlebell)
50 ab twists (kettlebell)
50 mountain climbers
2 Turkish get ups
30 sumo dead lifts (kettlebell)
50 ab twists (kettlebell)
25 jump rope
30 battle rope slams
I superset all of those in one straight shot and do about 3 minutes of rest between sets. I managed three sets at an average 7 minutes per round. Hoping to be able to do five sets by the end of September.
I also started doing protein powder again. Whey makes me break out like a motherfucker and I can't digest it very well, so I'm doing some raw vegan protein made with hemp/rice/pea protein. (No soy because soy can suck it). With 22g per scoop, I adore it. Its extremely easy to digest, has a probiotic, and is unflavored so I can add a dash of raw cacao with my kale smoothie in the morning.
That's all for now. Looks like everyone is having a great August by way of gains and progress. The MusclePharm gym in Denver has "train like an unchained beast" painted on the wall so that's been my mantra for the past couple of weeks.
Keep at it dudes. Love this thread.
Back from an injury with a VENGENCE. 4 consecutive days of super intense kettlebell/battlerope/sprint/jump rope max effort circuits. Yesterday was the first time I have literally collapsed after a burnout set of battle ropes. Feels good, man. My post injury/post vacation break is over and I'm gunning for an intense September. I've had great success with training only 2x a week at max effort, but doing 4 on 3 off feels like it could be the perfect balance of volume vs intensity. I'm in Vegas the next three days on business, so I'm going to rest up to avoid overtraining.
Yesterday's zombie prep circuit was as follows:
(With 35# kettlebell)
25 jump rope
30 battle rope slams
2 Turkish get ups
20 halos (kettlebell)
50 ab twists (kettlebell)
50 mountain climbers
2 Turkish get ups
30 sumo dead lifts (kettlebell)
50 ab twists (kettlebell)
25 jump rope
30 battle rope slams
I superset all of those in one straight shot and do about 3 minutes of rest between sets. I managed three sets at an average 7 minutes per round. Hoping to be able to do five sets by the end of September.
I also started doing protein powder again. Whey makes me break out like a motherfucker and I can't digest it very well, so I'm doing some raw vegan protein made with hemp/rice/pea protein. (No soy because soy can suck it). With 22g per scoop, I adore it. Its extremely easy to digest, has a probiotic, and is unflavored so I can add a dash of raw cacao with my kale smoothie in the morning.
That's all for now. Looks like everyone is having a great August by way of gains and progress. The MusclePharm gym in Denver has "train like an unchained beast" painted on the wall so that's been my mantra for the past couple of weeks.
Keep at it dudes. Love this thread.
TheDarkStark
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today was the busiest day the in the park where I go jogging. At the end of the path, there's equipment for everyone to use, the regular weightlifting stuff.
we were like 10 guys sharing equipment and I noticed I was the only one who gives a damn about legs and abs I don't even focus on that, I just try to not neglect those muscles, everyone seems to be obsessed with the chest and bicep combo.
if anyone here has that mindset, please don't. Is never late to take care of your body properly.
and quite frankly, decenty chest/arms with a massive gut and chicken legs doesn't look good
Welcome to every gym ever from now til the end of time.
Guys do biceps/chest, women stretch & do cardio.
Personally I think a lot of the gym going women are worse off than guys, who wants the hell wants an 80 pound anorexically skinny woman?
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