Man loses 21 pounds on potato diet. There was a guy who lost weight eating nothin but twinkies. Some people oppose to the idea, but weight loss is mostly calories in - calories out. Healthy food is usually less calorie dense, and as a nice side effect it doesn't harm your body.
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FallingEdge
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They are perfectly fine and there is nothing wrong with them.
Same goes with rice, bread, pasta, and several other carbs.
computers putin'
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This is one of the few topics that pop up on neogaf that just make me cringe to see. these threads usually reek of hypocrisy, total lack of empathy, and contain alot of people just being flat out jerks; a far cry from the tone that's usually set on this board with other threads. the premise of the article in the op is ridiculous though and i won't waste my time addressing it.
agreed wholeheartedly.
agreed wholeheartedly.
Count Dookkake
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What an outrageous claim.
Every able-bodied person can change their body's condition. It just takes effort, record keeping and time.
Please, do not respond with some claim about someone you know with some weird glandular issue.
Every able-bodied person can change their body's condition. It just takes effort, record keeping and time.
Please, do not respond with some claim about someone you know with some weird glandular issue.
Oh wow, this is a thing.
Wickerbasket
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I'm eating lots more than I used too though. Also, that article linked says potatoes are good for you.
I don't necessarily disagree since I know I've had my fair share of, "Nope, need something different tonight" moments. That and I also enjoy cooking so I don't even dread preparing food. I just think that the whole, "Healthier eating == more expensive and bland" line of thinking is pretty false. I get the thought process, just saying that "correcting" that line of thinking should be one of the healthy eating goals for weight loss.
We do have a lot of "lol just eat less" rhetoric instead, though, which doesn't help the situation at all.
To be fair, chances are likely this person we're talking about is also spending more than $3 a day on McDonald's food. It's probably more of a $3 a meal situation.
Dude Abides
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Nay. It can be prepared so it's not terrible, but it's not healthy.
Yeah, I wasn't trying to say potatoes are bad, just that you can definitely lose weight while eating them.
FallingEdge
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There is nothing wrong with chicken.
Except for the fact that there's little to no scientific data, not deriving from special interests groups in some fashion, that agrees with that assessment. The skin of the potato is the most nutritious part of the vegetable, and everything else is basically shoving sugar into your mouth.
brianjones
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what exactly is your definition of healthy
im curious what your diet looks like
aside from an excess amount of sodium i dont see much at fault with a skinless chicken breast
Steve Youngblood
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I think there's two things to note about potatoes. One is that they're a bit high in carbs on their own, which isn't necessarily a dealbreaker. But two, the bigger issue is that they often aren't revered in just plain form. Fried potatoes are the most popular, and certainly not very healthy because of the frying. But beyond that, people often flavor them with stuff that isn't that great for you. Yeah, a baked potato may be fine, but they are often loaded with butter, sour cream, bacon bits, and other things. The same is true of mashed potatoes to some extent.
I often eat just plain baked potatoes, and I'm looked at as some kind of weirdo.
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CorporateClown
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I just started reading this thread and this comment made me spit soda all over my work keyboard. I had to tell coworkers it went down the wrong tube...
What we need is better education at an early age, but it's never going to happen because it will eventually harm producers. Kids NEED to know and have it engraved into their skulls that:
-Sugar is bad. The end. Stay as far away from it as possible. Fruits are not inherently healthy, especially pulp-free fruit juices. Fruits should be consumed sparingly for good vitamin absorption and antioxidants.
-Not all vegetables are super healthy. Corn and potatoes are not very good for you while nearly all greens are.
-Complex carbs are horrible for you and break down into sugars which of course falls back into my first point.
-Exercise can help if done correctly, but isn't needed to maintain a healthy weight. You should still do it to make your body, organs, and muscles strong and healthy.
-DON'T drink regular pop. DON'T eat sugared candy/bakery.
-Staying in a near healthy weight range isn't hard when following the above.
You would see much less bad habits being formed if kids right away knew how bad this stuff was for them. Sure, you hear it every now and again "Pops bad for you, it will rot your teeth." That's not what they should be saying. They should be saying: "Pop will make you fat, will give you diabetes, and will ruin your quality of life. Be afraid and stay away."
-Sugar is bad. The end. Stay as far away from it as possible. Fruits are not inherently healthy, especially pulp-free fruit juices. Fruits should be consumed sparingly for good vitamin absorption and antioxidants.
-Not all vegetables are super healthy. Corn and potatoes are not very good for you while nearly all greens are.
-Complex carbs are horrible for you and break down into sugars which of course falls back into my first point.
-Exercise can help if done correctly, but isn't needed to maintain a healthy weight. You should still do it to make your body, organs, and muscles strong and healthy.
-DON'T drink regular pop. DON'T eat sugared candy/bakery.
-Staying in a near healthy weight range isn't hard when following the above.
You would see much less bad habits being formed if kids right away knew how bad this stuff was for them. Sure, you hear it every now and again "Pops bad for you, it will rot your teeth." That's not what they should be saying. They should be saying: "Pop will make you fat, will give you diabetes, and will ruin your quality of life. Be afraid and stay away."
Onion_Relish
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The problem with potatoes on schools lunches is that the potatoes themselves are not unhealthy, its just the way they are prepared that causes problems. Everyone here knows there is only one way schools prepare potatoes, and that is as delicious, artery blocking french fries.
Wickerbasket
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But again, that's to do with education. I bake or microwave potatoes and put a healthy topping on it, usually tinned tuna as it's my favourite. I could easily eat them by themselves but I find putting tuna on it fills me up more.
I think a majority of obesity is how little people know about what they're eating. Even if you make a conscious effort to eat healthy, it can still be pretty hard if you don't know what you should be eating.
spiderman123
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Carbs are good. Preparation and the amount you eat per day is what you should look at.
WorriedCitizen
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I have occasional weight problems. Ridicule from others is the only thing that ever worked to motivate me to do something about it. If people would applaud me for gaining weight and telling me how good and normal i look i would be obese by now.
Wickerbasket
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Mash them and eat with peas.
I.......seriously doubt that.
That's just a big plate of starches....
well you should thank them, if you didn't just walk it off you'd be a damned lazy fat ass too.
FallingEdge
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I think we are starting to get a bit overboard as far as saying what is healthy. I lift 4 times a week. Hit the gym hard and want to get bigger and stronger. I want and need my carbs. That means rice, potatoes, pasta, oatmeal, and whatnot. The average person can eat this and be fine. There is no need to avoid carbs completely. However, depending on your goals, you would want to eat more or less. I'm a fan of calories out vs calories in. Want to get bigger? Eat more. Want to lose fat? Eat less and lift heavy.
I've been on both sides of nutrition.
These:
Are like 2-3 for a dollar, and they're perfectly filling.
These:
Are anywhere from 50 cents to a dollar each, and are pretty damned filling.
I've seen Safeway have a Safeway branded bag of 100+ Pizza rolls for as little as 6 bucks. There is absolutely no way in hell I can eat this cheaply while eating healthy, I know, because I've been trying for the last few years. Sales, coupons, buying bulk and shopping across different stores for different things. It doesn't matter, it's not going to be this cheap.
Neither of those are filling. they satiate your hunger for a very short period, after which you are hungry again. That's one of the biggest differences between healthy eating and the alternative, just how long the food keeps you full.
Yeah, but you are Randy Savage and can therefor consume much more than us average plebeians.
Wickerbasket
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As opposed to the processed crap? I don't get what your point is.
Count Dookkake
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How long before a kid gets suspended for harassment (or some other bogus charge) for talking to other students about healthy food?
Okay. I am not saying you're wrong. I don't know where you live, and I don't know what the food prices are around you. I am speaking for myself when I say I have had a different experience.I've been on both sides of nutrition.
These:
Are like 2-3 for a dollar, and they're perfectly filling.
These:
Are anywhere from 50 cents to a dollar each, and are pretty damned filling.
I've seen Safeway have a Safeway branded bag of 100+ Pizza rolls for as little as 6 bucks. There is absolutely no way in hell I can eat this cheaply while eating healthy, I know, because I've been trying for the last few years. Sales, coupons, buying bulk and shopping across different stores for different things. It doesn't matter, it's not going to be this cheap.
Around me, a bag of Totino's Pizza Rolls is $5-6. That's 40 rolls, or about 20oz of food. I haven't checked single pizza prices so I can't speak to those except for what I see online (looks like $1-1.50 is the average). Those are about 10oz. Your Tina's burritos are 4oz each.
At ALDI, I can get a head of iceberg lettuce for $.69. Two tomatos for $.79. 3 onions for $.99. Less than three dollars, and I have a very hearty salad. It's $1.49 for a pound of edamame, which makes a good snack. Or $1.89 for a pound of sweet potato fries, if I wanted something a little heavier.
It would cost me $1.69 per pound of chicken breasts. So, about 1/3 the cost of a bag of pizza rolls if we are going by weight. Egg prices vary, but I would say $1.50 is a fair average. That is a little over one pound.
I already mentioned frozen vegetables and chicken quarters on the last page. Hopefully you see my experience has been different than yours.
Price is not an issue. Convenience is a slight issue, but even then it is a matter of a few minutes prep time.
No, poor diet advice is advice that is wrong. I lost 15 pounds while not leaving the house on average probably 3/4 days a week. Pretty much all the studies done come out in favor of low carb.
Rational people don't choose to harm themselves.
Those are completely fine for losing weight, the potato isn't. And this isn't based on anecdotal evidence, carbohydrates -> insulin response -> fat storage.
Stephen Colbert
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There's nothing you can do about your race or your sexual orientation.
However, unless you have genetic abnormality, losing weight is NOT that hard.
Consume 1500 calories a day instead of the 2500 your body burns daily and you are guarenteed to lose 2lbs every week (every lb is 3500 calories), without even having to exercise (though that definately helps keep your metabolism up and burn even more), and without hurting your appetie.
Just don't listen to all those fad/crap low carb diets. They may work but they leave you craving carbs all the time. Just count calories, and you are good, there is no sense in depriving yourself of any food group, as long you account for how many calories you're consuming daily.
If you must go on a fad diet, go on one that doesn't leave you craving carbs all the time. The subway/Jarrod diet is the easiest thing in the world. There's six 6 inch subs with under 400 calories (this is after accounting for all the veggies, bread and meat but not accounting for the sauses). You can eat up to 4 of those six inchers every day, and still lose 2lbs every week, 8lbs a month, 100lbs an year. Supplement them with those high protein canned shakes that leave you feeling full.
However, unless you have genetic abnormality, losing weight is NOT that hard.
Consume 1500 calories a day instead of the 2500 your body burns daily and you are guarenteed to lose 2lbs every week (every lb is 3500 calories), without even having to exercise (though that definately helps keep your metabolism up and burn even more), and without hurting your appetie.
Just don't listen to all those fad/crap low carb diets. They may work but they leave you craving carbs all the time. Just count calories, and you are good, there is no sense in depriving yourself of any food group, as long you account for how many calories you're consuming daily.
If you must go on a fad diet, go on one that doesn't leave you craving carbs all the time. The subway/Jarrod diet is the easiest thing in the world. There's six 6 inch subs with under 400 calories (this is after accounting for all the veggies, bread and meat but not accounting for the sauses). You can eat up to 4 of those six inchers every day, and still lose 2lbs every week, 8lbs a month, 100lbs an year. Supplement them with those high protein canned shakes that leave you feeling full.
It doesn't have to be big, that's actually the most important part, you know. If you eat more veggies and chicken than you should you'll still get fat.
Steve Youngblood
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Ultimately, I do agree with you. I was just arguing that the transition from the "living out of your car" lifestyle to making an honest-to-goodness effort to buy legitimately healthy food and cook more isn't entirely as painless as some make it out to be. Honestly, I don't mind cooking, and love to grill. However, without having planned for the week in advance, I do think it's often just as cheap and often more convenient to just pick up takeout as opposed to wandering into the grocery store to buy ingredients with no good idea of what to make and how to make it. That is, of course, assuming that we are momentarily ignoring the prioritization of health.
Krauser Kat
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Pretty sure im a fattist. I would just help them try to get better, but saying there is nothing wrong with being over weight is not answer.
FallingEdge
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You can still eat potatoes and lose weight. Again, it depends on your goals and what works for you. Plenty of people can eat carbs and lose weight just fine. If you choose to avoid carbs, then that's fine. I'm just not a fan of this concept that starches are bad and must be avoided. This is not the truth at all.
Dude Abides
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I eat chicken. I just don't pretend its a particularly healthy food since it's got so much sat fat and cholesterol.
It doesn't matter. Teaching that there is only one single way to lose weight is wrong. There are many options.
Nope, you're right. I just don't want to sugarcoat (haha) anything here. Carbs are not good for you if you are going to be doing what a majority of American teenagers will be: sitting around in school, then sitting around after school on the internet/playing games. People need carbs but they also need to eat less of them compared to what's available to us today.
There are some people who will do what they do regardless, but if this stuff is mentioned often once the children hit first grade (simplified of course), then they gain habits. When I went through school, no one ever told me pop will give you diabetes and you shouldn't be eating bread every day. We used to think juice was good for you, drink up! And it still happens today.
This isn't very popular here on Gaf, but the 1500 calorie diet worked for me. I lost 60 pounds off of it in about 5 months.
Wickerbasket
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Yup, I'm eating a potato a day for lunch and still losing 3-4 pounds a week. They're not the horrible weight gain monster some people would like you to believe. They're also filled with nutritional value, something that £1 pizza wouldn't have.
FallingEdge
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Agreed. A lot of it comes from lack of education. It can be very overwhelming as there is a lot of information out there. Doing the research and finding out what you are most comfortable with is what matters the most.
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Escape Goat
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fat rights activists. lol
sure they would, hell i would've if someone explained stretch marks to me. : (
not when you have a compromised metabolism (obesity.)
i'm sorry but the actual medical science is in favor of 'fad/crap' low carb diets. there's also indication that carbs are what make you crave more carbs, a vicious carb cycle.
i'd like to see a child try and stick to the diet you're recommending.
You can also lose weight eating cookies everyday as long as you don't go over your rough BMR. Potatoes really aren't all that great compared to other foods unless you're an athlete and need to carb load.
And here we go, more misinformation. Dietary cholesterol isn't bad for you.
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