Depression
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It's called anhedonia. It's very common in depression. Treatment for depression will help clear it up. Some people find that just forcing themselves to do things will eventually improve the problem, too. It helps if you have friends who will drag you out to stuff and force you to do things.
MarshallVaako
Member
What the hell...
I have GAD, mebbe SAD, also ADHD and OCD just the O. Mebbe depression too not sure. I was diagnosed with GAD and ADHD offically not armchairing it.
It was so bad I got kicked out of college because I couldnt keep it together...three times. Least I kept trying eh?
I've been on pretty much every SSRI and some other shit as well but none of it really helped...did make me explode like the girl from Willy Wonka though.
I have hypogonadisim and EXTREMELY low testosterone. So I think alot of my issues are related to to hormonal stuff which could explain why I haven't responded well to traditional pschytropic medication.
Anyway right now I'm trying to treat myself with nootropics, vitamins, supplements and anything the internet says might help. So far no luck but theres plenty of shit I haven't tried yet.
Anyone have any suggestions for safe supplements that help with anxiety and/or increase testosterone production? Preferbly ones that dont build tolerance so I dont have to cycle and dont have crazy side effects?
Right now I'm trying Theanine and Ashwaganda to little effect. Just started trying Insotil, hopefully that might help.
I have GAD, mebbe SAD, also ADHD and OCD just the O. Mebbe depression too not sure. I was diagnosed with GAD and ADHD offically not armchairing it.
It was so bad I got kicked out of college because I couldnt keep it together...three times. Least I kept trying eh?
I've been on pretty much every SSRI and some other shit as well but none of it really helped...did make me explode like the girl from Willy Wonka though.
I have hypogonadisim and EXTREMELY low testosterone. So I think alot of my issues are related to to hormonal stuff which could explain why I haven't responded well to traditional pschytropic medication.
Anyway right now I'm trying to treat myself with nootropics, vitamins, supplements and anything the internet says might help. So far no luck but theres plenty of shit I haven't tried yet.
Anyone have any suggestions for safe supplements that help with anxiety and/or increase testosterone production? Preferbly ones that dont build tolerance so I dont have to cycle and dont have crazy side effects?
Right now I'm trying Theanine and Ashwaganda to little effect. Just started trying Insotil, hopefully that might help.
Have you tried getting actual testosterone replacement from an actual doctor?
flippymittens
Banned
Is thinking about suicide alot depression?
I mean I am not sad all the time, usually I am pretty down when I have to talk to other people/socialize (not that I hate people) but it makes me feel really really bad when I do.
But when I am by myself I am either bored, happy, down, etc. I guess that is normal. I always have thoughts of suicide atleast once a day for the past years 8+ I think. I do not know if it is necessarily depression though.
Anyways I hope everyone in this topic gets better and if you need to type your problems to me in pm for some reason I will listen. Do not know what else to post other than that.
I mean I am not sad all the time, usually I am pretty down when I have to talk to other people/socialize (not that I hate people) but it makes me feel really really bad when I do.
But when I am by myself I am either bored, happy, down, etc. I guess that is normal. I always have thoughts of suicide atleast once a day for the past years 8+ I think. I do not know if it is necessarily depression though.
Anyways I hope everyone in this topic gets better and if you need to type your problems to me in pm for some reason I will listen. Do not know what else to post other than that.
spacerumsfield
Banned
Great advice. If you've had your testosterone levels measured (you should have a mg/dL number on hand) and they are abnormally low, you may qualify for hormone replacement therapy (HRT). Getting pharmaceutical grade test (probably cypionate or enanthate) into your system ought to greatly improve your quality of life as low test is associated with a variety of health problems.
Marshall, it sounds like you've got a cluster of problems; HRT won't come close to solving all of them. But it is probably a necessary element of getting better if indeed your test levels are "extremely" low, as you say they are. Look into it! (Very few test boosting supplements/products have any demonstrated efficacy and even then none of them come anywhere near the real thing, so skip wasting money on such things.)
MarshallVaako
Member
I got TRT injections but they made me extremely emotionally unstable and depressed. I read that might be just because it was injections and not TRT itself. But before I try gel or something I was hoping to treat the disease not the symptom (figure out why my testosterone is low and try to fix it instead of taking artifical testosterone).
Also TRT shrinks your nuts, causes infertility, and long term use of TRT requires special "coming down" treatment in order for your body to produce its own testosterone again.
spacerumsfield
Banned
1. That's really interesting; I've never heard of such a response. This was from a doctor and not underground stuff? Were you being administered something basic like cypionate/enanthate? How much? How long were you on? How did you stop treatment?
2. If you have extremely low test, HRT is probably a permanent thing; why would you ever go off if your natural production is shot as is? Your concerns of "coming off" thus don't seem pertinent.
3. HRT can lower sperm count but plenty of people have kids while on. You should be able to indicate to the doctor that fertility is a concern, after which you will be given ancillary compounds to assist with that. Bodybuilders on the harshest regimes on the planet get people pregnant; it is thus oversimplistic to say HRT matter-of-factly "causes infertility." At best, it lowers the probability by some indeterminate amount. That seems less pressing than the health problems you are liable to have from low test.
4. The facts presented in 3. apply equally well to your ballbag: there's a chance shrinkage will happen, there are compounds that prevents it, and, in any case, it doesn't seem to be as pressing an issue as the detrimental health effects of low test. Positing shrinkage -- a minor aesthetic effect that probably only you will care about -- as a reason not to do HRT is silly.
4. There is nothing remotely comparable to HRT as far as getting test levels up. The supplement industry is rife with crap products that promise much but have no demonstrated efficacy. HRT is the most powerful tool you've got for getting test levels up to the normal range; wasting money on alternatives will not get you far at all.
Yup. I get the appeal of supplements, but they're completely unregulated, there's fuck-all evidence that any of them do anything, and their long-term safety is extremely questionable in many cases. If your problem really is very low testosterone, 1) it could very well be primary rather than secondary - i.e. your testosterone is just low, it's not low due to some other problem (although that's still a possibility - all the more reason to see a doctor), meaning that 2) HRT will treat the problem and not just the symptoms.
I know webcomic artist Scott Kurtz has Kallmann Syndrome, in which low testosterone is due to a hypothalamic problem. Listening to podcasts, it sounds like he's very willing to talk about HRT. If you email him directly, there's a good chance he'll reply.
Right?
I've been off for about a week and the withdrawal hasn't been that bad. I have dizziness and when I move my eyes around in my head there's this weird dizzy/tired/disorienting feeling. Same thing somewhat if I just move my head back and forth quickly.
and yea... other than that, not much. My mood and positive energy still seem to be intact. I always though I was a bit more creative off meds, so hopefully that comes back as well.
Super right. Let's get drunk and gab all emotional-like.
I'll add you to the prayer intentions at the hospital chapel.
If you want to talk about it, PM or skype gaf.bagels
What are the thoughts like - just "I wonder what it would be like if I were dead" or "I'd be better off dead"? that's more suicidal ideation.
With a plan in place, that's more frank suicidality. You might want to talk to someone about either problem, particularly the latter.
If you're just interested in suicide, but have no desire to do so yourself, you're probably okay.
Let me recommend Night Falls Fast: Understanding Suicide again. It's an excellent book.
How We Die is a classic if you're just curious about what it's like to die.
I wasn't going to post here. It's embarrassing because I thought I had gotten over this.
I've always been a bit depressed, but I've managed to deal with it my own ways. I had my first panic attack Friday in four months. It really destroyed my energy and I was just so angry about it. I'm never angry. I don't even get frustrated but I was on the way to getting myself banned here and blew up even though I told myself to avoid Gaf earlier in the day.
It's such a sobering feeling when it all comes back. I feel for every person in this thread. It's hard to escape that 'darkness' we all sink into. My general mentality is that I'm here as an observer. Life is an experience, the good and bad. Thinking like that, my curiosity keeps me going to see the next chapter.
My thoughts are with you guys. Good luck everyone.
I've always been a bit depressed, but I've managed to deal with it my own ways. I had my first panic attack Friday in four months. It really destroyed my energy and I was just so angry about it. I'm never angry. I don't even get frustrated but I was on the way to getting myself banned here and blew up even though I told myself to avoid Gaf earlier in the day.
It's such a sobering feeling when it all comes back. I feel for every person in this thread. It's hard to escape that 'darkness' we all sink into. My general mentality is that I'm here as an observer. Life is an experience, the good and bad. Thinking like that, my curiosity keeps me going to see the next chapter.
My thoughts are with you guys. Good luck everyone.
Having a bad night right now and feeling very low. I went out to a white party with a friend who wanted me to meet his other friend and see if we hit it off and of course i have bad luck because he was not interested at all. I am so sick of being rejected and failing all the time. Buying stupid crap online isn't giving me the high i usually feel right now. I wish i had some drug that can just alter the way i am feeling and thinking. Just thinking i am not fit for this life at all.
ThisWreckage
Banned
I had four days in a row off from work and I slept over 60 hours during that period.
i'd love to be put under that that period of time.
We're working on you, Jubei. Try not to get too down. The wheels are in motion to get you help.
ThisWreckage
Banned
No, it's awful. I have no motivation to do anything and I'm always completely drained of energy.
I already feel that way. Thinking of taking a few melatonin pills lock my door and sleep until the next day. Every second my mind wanders to the club from last night and all i can think how i am a miserable stupid loser.
Very true.
3 of my goals are animation/art based, and my other one is related to getting somewhere with music if possible. I just want to do all sorts in life instead of being tied down to one specific area.
I'll try and focus on getting an animation job for the time being, and then go from there. I wouldn't mind being a freelance creative, but of course I need to find my feet before I do such a thing. This would allow for my spontaneity in my life, and it would also allow me to travel in a few years when I get a bit of money.
True, I guess I should be happy I have a lot of potential career choices.
I think it would be possible to achieve all of that, yeah. It's just a headache to keep up with it all.
I've been attempting to get my band going, but it's a pain in the arse to organise (even without a job). It's probably just down to my indecisive friends, but it just makes me fear I won't have time to do such a thing with a job. It's not the most important goal of course, but it's something I've wanted to do for a long time and if by chance I could go somewhere with it (unlikely I know), I would in a heartbeat.
Anyway perhaps I should plan all of my goals out and how I'll achieve them?
Oh and thanks guys!
vatstep
This poster pulses with an appeal so broad the typical restraints of our societies fall by the wayside.
I'm going to a concert tomorrow night, which is, like, the first thing I've actually looked forward to aside from A) weekends, B) food, and C) Breaking Bad in months. It's a nice feeling to have. Just wish I had more interests or hobbies or anything these days.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Keep your head up, even if your mental state is down. Identify what the problems are first, then try and attack them. Even if you fail to fix the problem, trying to change it is you absolutely getting better, not worse.
Sounds like a bad habit. Caffeine shouldn't be abused but it can give you a boost those first few weeks where you maybe have to kick yourself in the ass. Energy packets you put in water bottles, coffee, and even those energy drinks can help you get shit done. Regulate your sleep too, don't eat late, and working out also helps. Sleeping too much is a good way to feel shitty. Or just not doing productive stuff in general (whether it's for work or play...sometimes I'm too lazy to go out and try and have a good fun weekend. that's being unproductive as well.)
Don't ponder so much on how much you've been rejected by others. Invest in yourself. Love comes easier to some people than others. Some of that can be changed through self-improvement or other factors, some of that can't. That which can't shouldn't be worried about. There are plenty of drugs that can alter the way you feel and think, but even the best shit out there is short-term. You don't need mushrooms or acid to "learn the key to happiness in life" or some shit like that (although if you feel the need to try it go ahead). Opiates and stimulants will make life wonderful for a while, but then you'll realize "hey I'm in this shitty life" again. Gotta attack the roots, not just the symptoms! You have a right to happiness in this life just like anyone else. Maybe parties aren't for you? Or maybe the party was full of shitty people?
Calling around tomorrow about ECT. You've taken a big step towards getting better. Just hang in there!
flippymittens
Banned
I feel like our brains, body language we all give off signals and thoughts to progress the collective evolution of our species. I can not help but notice the looks people give me not all the time but when they do are that of disgust (I do not think myself some shining beacon that is glanced upon rather that when people look at me). I do not always say the right things and do bad things some times. I feel that as a species there is some sort of filter going on and I think that my suicidal thoughts that have been occurring for a while are a consequence of the collective. Evolution is trying to cut out the dead weight in my view and that is why I keep having suicidal thoughts.
I did not mean to make my last post sound like I was trying to be some avant-garde, enlightened, suffering intellectual artist or whining. I was just stating what I have been experiencing and I hope now that I explained that I feel there is some science behind what I am saying maybe my post will be taken a little more serious even if just a little more serious.
I am not saying my explanation is definitive but I do feel evolution is the strongest explanation and I do stand by the brain waves transmitting thoughts theory even though it is not concrete in science it is being researched.
I did not mean to make my last post sound like I was trying to be some avant-garde, enlightened, suffering intellectual artist or whining. I was just stating what I have been experiencing and I hope now that I explained that I feel there is some science behind what I am saying maybe my post will be taken a little more serious even if just a little more serious.
I am not saying my explanation is definitive but I do feel evolution is the strongest explanation and I do stand by the brain waves transmitting thoughts theory even though it is not concrete in science it is being researched.
Reading this in the voice and image of your avatar is a completely disarming and diabetes - inducing experience XD
Now talking seriously, the whole "I am always a bit depressed" is worring, really. The problem with minds is that since we are always in our own brain and head, we have nothing to compare our mental states with, so these kind of constant depressive states easily becomes our "new normal": don't allow it. Search for psychological help before you get your next panic attack, pleeeeease.
And regarding forum rage (which is something that I have also fell for), remember these:
- Being right in a conversation or debate is not the end and ultimate goal of your existance
- Verbally beating down another person is a cheap way to satisfy our ego
- When you became too invested into a debate, analyze yourself: you are not interested in winning the debate per se, but rather in being right and extracting a feeling of self - steem by the virtue of being right.
LostVoyager, my man, you don't know what is on these people's minds for sure. I too have experienced that sensation, and it always turns out that it is indifference, and not disgust, what most people feels about strangers. When we don't know something ("what is on these people minds?") but we are depressed, we tend to fill the gaps of our knowdegle with the worst assumptions possible ("these people are undoubtly disgusted by my presence"). I bet that no, they are not. I bet that If you talk to any stranger in the street with courtesy, he will treat you politely and not agressively.
We are do bad things sometimes, and that is a pretty normal and humane thing to do. As long as, say, you don't kill or maim people, you are pretty much like the vast majority of humans. We make mistakes and from time to time we act like assholes, too. Your evolutionary instincts are not telling you to kill yourself. Your evolutionary instincs may make you feel bad about some of your actions, but if you are an extremely sensible guy, it may come to a point when you can't stand these feelings: you want to suicide mainly because you want to stop feeling bad like that. But suicide will make you stop feeling everything altogether, both good and bad, and you really, really don't want that. Go seek help inmediately, and remember that we will be cheering you all along the way. Hang in there, man.
I've been trying to exercise my way out of depression. It works short term, but when I wake up the next day, it's back to normal. I've lost 15 pounds in the last month or so from exercising and eating right, and physically I feel better. Mentally, not really. I've been doing 4 hours a day on my exercise bike, plus a kettlebell work out that wears me out more than the 4 hours on the bike. It's more to wear me out and help me get some better sleep than the actual exercise part, I think. Still not working very well on that level, either. Still regularly getting 4 or less hours of sleep even with a sleep aid, while waking up constantly during it.
I decided to get out a few weeks ago and go to the big shopping districts around Indy, just to be out of my house and doing something. And I had 3 small panic attacks while I was out. They were all fairly long, but not terribly intense. Intense enough to know I needed to get out of there, but not intense enough that they were sending me into a meltdown or anything. Made worse by all the kiosk people that pop up right in my face to try to sell me jewelry or phone covers.
I should have gone home after the first one, but I would find somewhere to sit and chill out, and walk around some more. Then I'd go to a different mall/store and have another one when staff would come up asking me if I needed anything. I can't even hear what they're saying, really. I know they're talking to me, but I'm not really comprehending what they're saying to me. It's more like "Oh shit, I need to get the fuck away from this asshole immediately". I've only had one serious panic attack. I've been having small ones off and on since I was 13 or 14. Enough to make me uncomfortable and nervous, but not enough to lose my awareness of the situation. I would get them going to work meetings. Not going to work, but an hour meeting in the middle of the week would have me so tense and uncomfortable.
I've been noticing the hot face/ears, butterfly rash things quite a bit lately just sitting at home. I've been putting off looking for a new job because I just don't want to have to be around and interact with anyone.
I decided to get out a few weeks ago and go to the big shopping districts around Indy, just to be out of my house and doing something. And I had 3 small panic attacks while I was out. They were all fairly long, but not terribly intense. Intense enough to know I needed to get out of there, but not intense enough that they were sending me into a meltdown or anything. Made worse by all the kiosk people that pop up right in my face to try to sell me jewelry or phone covers.
I should have gone home after the first one, but I would find somewhere to sit and chill out, and walk around some more. Then I'd go to a different mall/store and have another one when staff would come up asking me if I needed anything. I can't even hear what they're saying, really. I know they're talking to me, but I'm not really comprehending what they're saying to me. It's more like "Oh shit, I need to get the fuck away from this asshole immediately". I've only had one serious panic attack. I've been having small ones off and on since I was 13 or 14. Enough to make me uncomfortable and nervous, but not enough to lose my awareness of the situation. I would get them going to work meetings. Not going to work, but an hour meeting in the middle of the week would have me so tense and uncomfortable.
I've been noticing the hot face/ears, butterfly rash things quite a bit lately just sitting at home. I've been putting off looking for a new job because I just don't want to have to be around and interact with anyone.
AFollowerNotALeader
Member
Seriously screw today.
Everyday is horrible
Well, ok, give yourself 4 years. That would mean you can spend 25% less time on each thing so would give you lots more breathing space. If you give yourself 6 years then you can spend half the time on each thing so you would have loads of time...
Yes definitely do this, having everything written down will give you clarity.
AFollowerNotALeader
Member
Unless like me you are the kind of person who will then use said list as a reason to hate yourself (look at how worthless I am, I didn't get anything/enough from the list done today). I know it's a bad day when I'm lying in bed, I need to get up for work and the first intelligible thought is along the lines of "get out of bed you lazy worthless piece of shit".
Use your own feelings as a guideline. I am pretty sure that like any human, you have had your good times, too, even if nowadays you feel like crap. Try to remember what makes you happy, or what used to make you feel happy. Try to remember which situations or memories you remember fondly, and try to see what was the common pattern in them. Also, try to grasp in which little moments of the day you have felt better, even if was a little thing (say, you heard a song in the radio that you liked, or you beated someone playing CoD online, whatever). After you have made that small recap, you will have someone to work on it: you will know what makes you feel better, and you will be able to replicate or try to replicate these situations.
Try to think on the long term, and try to be constant. Think that: how old are you? You have decades ahead of you to fullfill your goals. You have all your life to do it so. Fuck the "instant win" button that society and self - help books tries to sell you, it just doesn't exist. It is going to be a long process, and - this is important - most of your life will consist not in archieving goals but rather in working in order to archieve them. So try to enjoy the process, and stop judging yourself, learn to be content with what you do rather than being frustrated with what you don't. For example, don't blame yourself if you have not been able to find a job today, be happy as long as you have done your daily dose of job searching, tomorrow will be another day.
To be fair, it wasn't really a debate. I know better than to join in on anything I'm not comfortable with and respect everyone's opinions regardless. This was a single mostly hateful opinion which affected me personally and garnished a bunch of circle jerk posts all ignoring the irony of the initial statement. I wasn't in the mood for that. It didn't skirt the line enough to be considered ban worthy. I asked the poster if they could clarify, which revealed the motivations I expected. At that point, I was ready to speak my mind about the hateful nature of their post (not nicely) but decided against it last minute.
That won't work for me. The thing that made me very happy also makes me very upset even thinking about it now bothers me. I hope this ECT treatment whatever it is lobotomzies my brain, there is no hope. Things does not get better for everyone, especially losers like me.
Insane Metal
Member
I don't know if anyone will remember, but I also posted in this thread complaining about my life, how I felt... honestly, I found the solution.
I know many (if not ALL) of you will say it's bullshit, that you disagree, etc. I know it because I thought the same before. But I changed my mind.
I have a very good friend (a friend's mother) who always helped me a lot. One day she talked to me about God, that I needed God in my life, and all that stuff we don't like to hear when we don't believe. But somehow I went home and kept thinking about that. And after a few weeks, I started feeling that I needed to go to church. I denied that feeling for a long time, but eventually I found someone who helped me again and decided to go.
I can honestly say that this was the moment of change in my life. I won't say my life is perfect, but all those bad things I felt are GONE. Yes, I do get sad, sometimes I don't want to do anything, but not feeling the same as before. I just can't explain. I feel like a normal person now. I get sad, but in a controlled way. Most of the time I keep thinking positive, and that's something I've never been able to do in my life (and I'm 27). As I said, my life isn't perfect, I'm unemployed, I'm facing hard problems with a girl I like, among other things, but I never feel like giving up or that these things are useless. That I am useless. God definetely changed my life.
Don't worry, I'm here only to tell what happened to me. And I hope you guys find God too. Even if you don't believe today (as I was a few months ago), you may change your mind.
I know many (if not ALL) of you will say it's bullshit, that you disagree, etc. I know it because I thought the same before. But I changed my mind.
I have a very good friend (a friend's mother) who always helped me a lot. One day she talked to me about God, that I needed God in my life, and all that stuff we don't like to hear when we don't believe. But somehow I went home and kept thinking about that. And after a few weeks, I started feeling that I needed to go to church. I denied that feeling for a long time, but eventually I found someone who helped me again and decided to go.
I can honestly say that this was the moment of change in my life. I won't say my life is perfect, but all those bad things I felt are GONE. Yes, I do get sad, sometimes I don't want to do anything, but not feeling the same as before. I just can't explain. I feel like a normal person now. I get sad, but in a controlled way. Most of the time I keep thinking positive, and that's something I've never been able to do in my life (and I'm 27). As I said, my life isn't perfect, I'm unemployed, I'm facing hard problems with a girl I like, among other things, but I never feel like giving up or that these things are useless. That I am useless. God definetely changed my life.
Don't worry, I'm here only to tell what happened to me. And I hope you guys find God too. Even if you don't believe today (as I was a few months ago), you may change your mind.
So, when your mind is clouded with negative emotion, how do you differentiate between good advice and advice given from a standpoint that lacks an understanding of depression? My high-strung Type A sister has been pushing me really hard recently, and while she gives perfectly good advice for self-improvement like getting on a routine, taking up a hobby, exercising regularly, etc. she frames my lack of motivation in terms of calling me immature, lazy, selfish, wallowing in self-pity, implies I have a mental handicap, etc. Going back to her personality, she thinks that because she personally doesn't have the power to solve my emotional issues that they must be my own fault. I want to take some of her advice to heart, but when she makes it so personal, I feel like I'm validating her hurtful assumptions about my personal flaws if I conform to her ways.
It's strange because she has a degree in psychology and even deals with depression issues herself--it's just that because her emotional problems have never translated into a lapse in normal habits for her, she sees no reason why it shouldn't be the same for me. I'm actually unmedicated for my problems because she convinced my parents to threaten to kick me out of their house if I took antidepressants due to the miniscule risk that I might become violent as a side effect. I suppose that feeling better is worth "validating" her, but as shitty as I feel I still have a little pride and would like to believe that I'm suffering from a legitimate problem and I'm not just being the things I'm being labeled as.
It's strange because she has a degree in psychology and even deals with depression issues herself--it's just that because her emotional problems have never translated into a lapse in normal habits for her, she sees no reason why it shouldn't be the same for me. I'm actually unmedicated for my problems because she convinced my parents to threaten to kick me out of their house if I took antidepressants due to the miniscule risk that I might become violent as a side effect. I suppose that feeling better is worth "validating" her, but as shitty as I feel I still have a little pride and would like to believe that I'm suffering from a legitimate problem and I'm not just being the things I'm being labeled as.
Collete
Member
I'm earning a psychology degree myself and suffer from depression on a regular basis; I kind of relate to this a bit with my own friends and family members saying similar things.
Your sister's advice to get you to do hobbies, exercising, etc is good advice though.
I'm not sure if I can answer your question fully, but I don't know you, so I can't say if your sister is actually stating to any truth that you're lazy, immature, etc as a means to help you.
That said, I don't think it's necessary to be full on frontal with someone depressed.
At least, not everyone can improve and take in advice like that when confronted with flaws so bluntly.
Also not everything a therapist/family member/friend/etc can solve every issue for a person in need.
However, it does not necessarily mean that it's the person's fault. Stuff happens out of the person's control, doesn't mean it's your fault. Especially if your depression is due to biochemical factors, not just an environmental factors.
I'm not sure if she doesn't understand depression fully or her own depression is clouding her statements.
As for the medication situation, I think it's a bit odd she herself who has a psychology degree would say something like that. I'm not sure if it's her depression affecting that decision or her own personal opinion, but who is to say she has right to decide if you get to take antidepressants or not? Again, I don't know your situation fully, but I would recommend not eliminating antidepressants as an option to improve your depression. At least keep it in your mind to think over.
I strongly recommend seeking professional help to find the root problem of your depression.
Also, a psychologist can help you prescribe to different antidepressants.
Not every antidepressant works for everyone, so don't give up if you go down this route.
Good luck.
Perhaps If I would see the original post I could get a better idea of the context, but right now it is all too abstract. Still, I think that you made the right decision by not answering back. What would have you gained by replying in an agressive manner? It surely won't make you feel better, and it probably would have hurted your cause rather than help it.
But there might be more than one thing that makes you happy, too, even if they are minor things, do not disregard them outright: most of all these happy people in Facebook are happy not because they have reached great goals in their lives but rather because they find little pleasures on their daily routines. And yes, things does get better, but you, a loser? a loser of what? are you playing some kind of game? does life have some set of rules with a clear victory condition? of course not, you silly. You have self proclaimed yourself a loser, but the game is far from over, and is far, far more open than what people gives it credit for.
I got diagnosed with depression yesterday. Not severe apparently, but moderate. It might've helped that I was jolly in the exchange with my doctor, but still, bit odd.
Dealt with it (supposedly) for may years. I refused medication (some horrible anecdotes surround me) but referred to counselling which I believe is the right oath.
Just thought I'd share.
Dealt with it (supposedly) for may years. I refused medication (some horrible anecdotes surround me) but referred to counselling which I believe is the right oath.
Just thought I'd share.
Mentally, it's basically helping you find peace with your current self and having a positive outlook on the future. Which is what the mind needs to be happy. A lot of people have constant negative thoughts they need to stop. Jesus in the bible says things like there's no need to worry, and etc. But, conversely, there's a lot of hateful, paranoid, and judgmental religious people that seem to live in fear. Everyone should find a way to be at peace with their time on Earth and enjoy it in a way that makes sense to them personally. Religion or not.
I would say 'goals' is the wrong word. Better to say targets since they are stepping stones to achieving the true goal. Targets and a plan to achieve them are all just tools. It's up to you how you use them, or if you use them. If you have a hammer, you can use it to hit the nails into the wall correctly, or you can use it to smash your hand. One of these creates a good outcome, the other a very painful one. Either way, the hammer is still a good tool. Either you use it correctly or you find a different tool to help you achieve your targets.
The true goal is a bit more abstract, it is simply to have positive outcomes in life. It's up to the individual to choose what specific positive outcomes he/she wants. Whether you want to feel joy, happiness, excitement, contentment, whether it's success in your career, relationships, hobbies, learning, physical health, spirtuality etc. You can choose what you do and do not want in life. You should kind yourself, make the targets reasonably achieveable for you and give yourself enough time to achieve them. And remember, above all, the value isn't in achieving the targets, it's in the process of achieving them.
If a genie gave you 5 wishes what would you wish for?
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