Vita "hacked," (PSP) homebrew on the way (not piracy)
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Who gives a shit. Really.
I wouldnt have brought Dark Souls PC if it wasnt for the res mod. Neither would have many others.
That's what I'm hearing as well.
This may be true, but writing off the effect of piracy on the PSP in this way seems misguided. "well" is good enough? How good is "well". It's ok to ignore the notion that development and sales were still hugely adversely affected by piracy? If they sold well, just think how good the games and support could have been.
GoofsterStud
Member
The whole point in an entertainment product is convenience and benefit to the user.
I get both from homebrew. YAY
I get both from homebrew. YAY
A Twisty Fluken
Member
Given that Sony didn't think it was a priority for the last two portable playstations they sold me to let me play my legally purchased copy of Birth By Sleep, it seems kind of foolish to worry about playing by their rules.
A CFWed PSP is so much better for even the legal end consumer than an OFW PSP.
He meant the psp(70 million units sold).
Not every system that got hacked and had a simple widely accessible method of piracy had issues, see DS, Wii, PS1, the entire Gameboy line.
PSP's problems lay elsewhere.
I'm not writing anything off. I'm simply saying that it is the publisher's job to convince people not to pirate something by offering a product people want to own. It is not worth the consideration of consumers to think about what "sacrifices" we have to make to help companies make more money. That's upside down thinking. If you want to have that mindset, be my guest, just don't be surprised when people laugh at you for it.
Oh I don't give a shit. For some reason, some people have allowed their rights to be annexed by corporate lawyers and seem proud of it. Not me!
I believe that I can install a hack to improve my experience with a piece of software like Dark Souls just like I believe that I can install a hack onto my Vita\PS3\whatever to use the hardware as I see fit.
Best post in this thread so far.
phosphor112
Banned
Probably meant PSP.
GoofsterStud
Member
They weren't...they actually went up after the hardware sale boom.
Granted not as much as it could of been..but up non the less overall.
Homebrew potential:
Android port on PSV? (At the very least minimum loader to just play games you purchased, maybe Ouya interface port)
Steam Linux a reality on PSV? (Note I'm not a steam fam)
Dreamcast Emulation
Full 100% PSX compatibility with upscaling
Full SNES, Genesis, 32X, N64 and neo geo support
Great video/movie support
Homebrew apps to do a few productive things when you aren't near your tablet
The potential. >.> Rayman Jungle and Sega Android support here I come.
phosphor112
Banned
I know someone that loves Nintendo like it gives him blow jobs daily, and he pirates most Nintendo games. Why? His Wii/DS is already hacked, why not just download it?
If buying a game means going out of your way, away from your homebrew, then it becomes a hassle and they'll just go the easy route. I've seen this time and time again. Not saying EVERYONE does this, but that's a flawed logic you've presented.
If you don't agree with the framework provided, don't buy the system. Generally, don't buy things you don't like/disagree with. It will only make you sad.
YOU BASTARD
Oops, I see what you meant now! And yes, I agree. If Sony want to burst into my house and take back my Vita once its hacked, Id like to see them try. I brought it, I can alter it as I see fit.
DR2K
Banned
An open platform is more beneficial to consumers. Sorry that'll never change.
dacuk
Member
Au contraire, this will make it sell more than 3DS!
Sorry I can't say the same about its games...
civilstrife
Member
Careful, Hyoushii.
phosphor112
Banned
Then why not use their own open software?
GoofsterStud
Member
Seriously if Sony is making a profit of the consoles...this is good for them.
Retailers were already dropping support for the Vita. Less than 1 console per retailer average over the past few months....This might actually help keep Vita a float before more retailers abandon support.
Many gaffers were reporting PSV being pulled from there local gamestop already.
Because it is limited fro m using the full potential of the hardware, and subject to Sony's approval and wishes.
Thats why.
DR2K
Banned
Whatever gets to point A to point B faster.
I'm not the moral police and don't give 2 shits but that's still piracy
except PS Suite/Mobile was made for this was it not? People will hack any console/handheld regardless if its "Hombrew Friendly" or not.
Isn't that still pir...
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My local Tesco, a MASSIVE superstore variety (its like currys upstairs) has withdrawn all vita placements apart from half a bay hidden next to the microwaves.
The 3DS and DS has an entire side of an aisle.
Well, its just like having a gun.
You can use it the good way, having fun shooting targets or hunting or...BEING LEGIT...whatever the fuck people with guns do. Everyone will be happy, yada yada.
You can be a douche who scares people with it and obtain shit that doesn't belong to you.
We're all grown people (I think) and we know the repercussions of our acts.
You do whatever you want, you're a free person. I'm the kind that will enjoy ripping my library to test it on my Vita. Those who will pirate, well, that's their problem and we can't really do anything about them except banning them when they shout out loud that they pirate stuff. I think homebrew are one of the best features available on a console, if used the good way.
I, too, was against such things at first, but since I modded my PSP/Wii which kind of 'unlocked the potential' on both consoles, I'm a follower. Now with the Vita's power and the enormous amount of possibilities, the fun can begin soon.
ics runs pretty well on my nexus one, haven't tried jellybean yet, but its available. why wouldn't the much faster vita be able to handle it?
n1 specs:
CPU 1 GHz Qualcomm Scorpion
GPU Qualcomm Adreno 200
Memory 512 MB
Storage 512 MB (190 MB application storage)
GoofsterStud
Member
I have stores that stopped supporting it as well... The previous PSV threads had people announcing they no longer see PSV's at there local retailers.
Your not going to rebound without Retailer support. Dumb retailers will see the increase sales and think twice about abandoning the platform.
Things are more dire than people believe.
DR2K
Banned
Except it's not really "open" nor can we expect a company with Sony's history to support PSuite. See OtherOS.
PS Suite is restricted hugely by Sony in terms of possible content and the amount of the hardware features that can be used. Its also priced, as opposed to free use.
You can bring it up as much as you want but the simple fact is its not the same in any way.
Devilgunman
Member
The Wii was locked before it got hacked
GoofsterStud
Member
Exactly. Jellybean has better memory management than the older OS. The thing would be a beast.
Still the naysayers are holding on to any straw they can grasp.
So it's silly to think that maybe in the long run we would have more fun new games to play if we didn't rush to crack open a system? Why even buy a system if you don't want good games for it? Like it or not, companies are going to need the platform to thrive and have successful sales on it in order to keep making games to play. Guess what, if you buy Vita, you're helping Sony make money. The horror!
Of course they should be good enough for us to want to support, and it's their job to convince us. You don't have to be excited about the idea of them making money to understand that they need a reason to make the games. I find it hard to believe that people think that a cracked-open system would not discourage developers from spending resources on it. I do not believe one bit that a cracked-open PSP had no impact on developer support.
I just think the timing on this is too early, and it's going to do more harm than good at this stage. You don't have to be a "corporate apologist" to think this way.
Only because Nintendo used the same security key as the Gamecube, but in lower case. Idiots.
Devilgunman
Member
There's something called "Demo".
LittleJohnny
Banned
portable Dreamcast would be SICK!
But, you could buy one of Sega's half assed ports instead!
....if a decent DC emulator appears, I am so ripping my copy of Street Fighter 3 for it. Dat amazing D-Pad!!
Trogdor1123
Member
How is this a good thing? People were talking about how the PSV was getting weak third party support due to sales and now that its hacked its going to be even worse...
phosphor112
Banned
No, talking about the hackers own open software, not the software that comes with the Vita. That's the thing. People who hack their devices often still use majority code from the developer, and not an open source one.
It works the other way around too. The convenience invites interest in the platform that wouldn't be there otherwise. At least, that is how it is for me. Which is good for Sony: an extra Vita sold, plus all the software I would buy. There are probably more people like me that have an interest in Vita but do not like the restrictions of it now.
Also, Im sure homebrew would entice more people to buy 32gb memory cards.
phosphor112
Banned
Aaaand it launches off of what OS?
The Faceless Master
Member
that's not open, and also, doesn't that have an annual fee and other device/account related restrictions?
Why would that even come into this argument? It can boot straight from the NAND, if you wanted.
Im hoping for some MIDI capability. Already have my tabet hooked up for mixing and samples, a vita too would be ace.
Would never happen through PSM or suite either, due to the USB being locked down!