What history? I hadn't realized the governments of Europe were infringing upon the rights of its citizens through their health care systems. Though I guess I should've put two and two together because I see people from the UK and Canada say how horrible their systems are all the time.
I specifically mentioned USSR therapists in a previous post. I sincerely hope you do not intend to request that I go through all the nations of the world and provide citations of these happenings.
I think you're misinterpreting the movement against internet restrictions. It's the private sector and their pursuit of profit that is leading to restrictions/provisions on the internet. NOT the government.
This is an erroneous way of thinking. Legislators introduce legislation, not the private sector. The onus is on them. Who is "pushing" does not matter when civil liberties are at stake. If - a bit if, mind you - if the state were owned by corporations, then does that somehow make it
less dangerous? I think most people here would agree that it's even more dangerous for corporations to be limiting our freedom (maybe someone will read this and realize I'm not a Libertarian).
You're employed by the state, but you seem to value smaller or no government. Is there a reason you're teaching at a public school rather than a private one?
I value a different kind of government, let's just say. I live in Illinois, and it's a weird thing here: I'm legally able to teach college, but not primary school. Wild, huh? I'll spare you my life story unless you want to know it, and summarize as thus: I'm teaching where I am because of a combination of limited credentials and convenience. Also, times are tough - you take what you can get, you know?
Also, I'm not particularly picky about where I teach. I do my best to separate finances from consideration in livelihood. I've spent most of my life not enjoying what I do.
Ok. So what other country with universal healthcare/socialized healthcare does this? Any data or evidence to back this up?
Have you really no knowledge of how oppressive nations throughout the modern world have used medicine to control their populace? I suggest, rather than me educating you, you take some initiative yourself on this one.
Indeed. But with socialized healthcare people have the freedom to live their lives as they see fit without the worry of financial catastrophe. There are millions of people in the United States who need medical attention but are unable to get it due to the sheer expense with and without insurance. This limits their freedom in their daily life.
Indeed, and it is unpleasant for them. I sincerely doubt that millions within the USA are limited in their freedom in daily life through need to medical attention unless you want to count the elderly who are falling into decay and the mangled. Not that this is an argument, just that I find the claim disingenuous.
On the note of personal catastrophe, I would be far more concerned about the actual bodily damage than the financial one.
Source of quote? What countries were observed? At what time periods? I can argue that places like Somalia aren't really becoming richer.
Benjamin Franklin, like the other.
I hope things go well for you and nothing happens. But that doesn't negate the fact that there are millions out there being denied coverage, living in fear, and outright neglecting their physical condition due to the sheer expense of the US healthcare system. And a lot of these people are in situations just like yours. Strapped with debt, low income, ect... should these people be just ignored?
First, thank you for your well wishings. Second, no, I do not think these people should be ignored. If I were to make my larger position brief, it would be like this, and it assumes value in a democratic system:
Yes, healthcare is in a terrible state. Yes, it is worth improving. No, nationalized healthcare is not the best route. Rather, it seems to me that there are much deeper institutional issues that are causing our society to crumble. Especially, the present legal status of corporations. One must look at hospitals and ask "why is this so expensive?" We recently had a thread where a person (woman?) was charged $80,000 for a some-hundred injection. Why? I think that is what I would like to look at in terms of addressing the situation.
Slightly off-topic, but to help combat those who are idealizing me as a Libertarian: I am slightly in favor of nationalizing our banking system.
Karsticles doesn't need police. He only needs a gun.
Guess we should start outfitting toddlers with guns? So they can protect themselves in case they get kidnapped.
When was the last time police found a kidnapped child before it was a corpse? I do not think this example is a strong one. If my child were stolen, calling the police would merely be legal formality. I haven't the slightest confidence that the police would be able to recover the child.
No this is a legitimate issue. He said he doesnt need police he only needs a gun. The police do a lot more than shoot people. If you are going to advocate for the abolishment of state funded police you better think of all the things the police do. Personally I prefer the police to be around. I don't want to have to pay for an investigator if my apartment gets broken into. Seriously a gun is not going to stop that if I'm on the other side of a country at a conference.
This has not a single thing to do with politics. I'm not advocating for or against gun control. It's odd that you even got that from my comment.
Do you really think the police are going to find out who broke into your apartment? Please. In nearly all cases it gets filed and forgotten, and then you call your (presumed) renters insurance company to replace it all. How much investigating do you think cops
really do?
