Resident Evil 6 - Review Thread | Activist Reviews and the Hate Patrol Destroy Truth™

Dusk Golem said:
What I'm kind of annoyed at is that the OT is focused on the less than steller reviews and completely ignores all of the better reviews that came out today.

Strategy Informer (8/10): http://www.strategyinformer.com/xbox360/residentevil6/2015/review.html

The Verge (4/10): http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/10/1/3430374/resident-evil-6-review

CVG (8/10): http://www.computerandvideogames.co...ies-its-survival-horror-roots-forever-review/

Cheat Code Central (9.2/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/cheat-code-central?filter=games

GamesTM (7/10): http://www.gamestm.co.uk/reviews/resident-evil-6-review/

Gamepro.de (81/100) - http://www.gamepro.de/playstation/spiele/ps3/resident-evil-6/wertung/47528.html

Metro (5/10) - http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/913833-resident-evil-6-review-no-hope-left

MondoXbox (9/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/mondoxbox?filter=games

Vandal.net (9/10) - http://www.vandal.net/analisis/x360/resident-evil-6/15505

Machinima (7.5/10) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2Qm-LveUig

Gaming Age (B+) - http://www.gaming-age.com/2012/10/resident-evil-6-review-for-xbox-360-ps3/

Console Domination (8.5/10) - http://www.consoledomination.com/game-reviews/2546-resident-evil-6-review

Bloody Disgusting *SPOILERS* (9/10) - http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3...iew-putting-the-action-back-in-action-horror/

3DJeugos (86/100) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/3djuegos?filter=games

Digital Spy (8/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/digital-spy?filter=games

Planet Xbox (8/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/planet-xbox-360?filter=games

SpazioGames (8/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/spaziogames?filter=games

Worth Playing (8/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/worth-playing?filter=games

Eurogamer Sweden (7/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/eurogamer-sweden?filter=games

JeuxActu (7/10) - http://www.metacritic.com/publication/jeuxactu?filter=games
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A few more:

EGM (8.5) - http://www.egmnow.com/articles/reviews/egm-review-resident-evil-6/

Planet Xbox 360 (8) - http://www.planetxbox360.com/article_21568/Resident_Evil_6_Review

Now Gamer (8.4) - http://www.nowgamer.com/xbox-360/xbox360-reviews/1613546/resident_evil_6_review.html

More average-great reviews than negative, yet only the lowest reviews are given any credibility. Yes, a 70 average is low for a mainline Resident Evil and the game no doubt has problems. But you can't just ignore every average-great review that is out there as if every one is some money hat conspiracy and only the lowest of the low reviews hold any merit. It's fine if you think the game is horrible, but holding such a view where only the bad reviews count is ridiculous. It is being hammered by some, but not all. Hardly an across the board panning at 70.
 
I really don't care for reviews, especially for a game that seems to be getting 80s and 40s. What I personally didn't like about the demo is that awful clumsiness of the characters in general. Who thought having you trip and fall over every object on the ground was a good idea?
 
ironcreed said:
A few more:

EGM (8.5) - http://www.egmnow.com/articles/reviews/egm-review-resident-evil-6/

Planet Xbox 360 (8) - http://www.planetxbox360.com/article_21568/Resident_Evil_6_Review

Now Gamer (8.4) - http://www.nowgamer.com/xbox-360/xbox360-reviews/1613546/resident_evil_6_review.html

More average-great reviews than negative, yet only the lowest reviews are given any credibility. Yes, a 70 average is low for a mainline Resident Evil and the game no doubt has problems. But you can't just ignore every average-great review that is out there as if every one is some money hat conspiracy and only the lowest of the low reviews hold any merit. It's fine if you think the game is horrible, but holding such a view where only the bad reviews count is ridiculous. It is being hammered by some, but not all. Hardly an across the board panning at 70.
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Unless the reviewer.... you know.... sucks at reviewing.
 
Rez said:
Quick, lets praise another random game and see whether or not the "IT WASN'T EVEN THAT GOOD" patrol come to rain on the parade.

I liked [Vanquish].
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Vanquish is like half a game. It has very little content and little replay value because the scoring system is bad.

Good mechanics though.
 
I just hope RE will decide to go back to its roots. PLEASE! I have prayed for a poor reception in hopes that I can get a great SP game with true survival horror. Or even just horror, forget the survival! I will take what i can get at this point.

This is why I never preorder too, since I don't follow or buy into previews. I think I have like once in my life, for FF7. I can usually just walk into a store and buy a game on day one anyway if a game really shines.
 
BlazingDarkness said:
ITT people with RE6 avatars on damage control

69 is a terrible score, no matter how you approach it

It might be a fun but flawed game, critically it's been shat upon
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It is only a few points less than my GotY last year.

Aggravated scores (and this applies to GAF's polls) don't really let you in on any secrets, it just drowns out the best opinions with lesser opinions.
 
Chinner said:
maybe his taste or opinion has changed in the last 4 years? standards change over time.
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Perhaps. I imagine it was actually a case of him just not enjoying the Resident Evil story or RE6's cutscenes where he did actually enjoy those in Metal Gear Solid 4.

It's the part where he takes a subjective opinion about a piece of content and turns it into a seemingly objective criticism about a delivery mechanism (despite not minding said mechanism in a different game) that makes him look bad in my eyes.
 
Haliela said:
Wow serious buyers remorse now. That's the problem with preordering from Amazon. Apparently the game is trash so.... crap.
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I think you should wait to play it before feeling buying remorse. Is a game that lots of ppl are gonna hate but also a game that will be enjoyed for lots of ppl too.
 
Kelegacy said:
I just hope RE will decide to go back to its roots. PLEASE! I have prayed for a poor reception in hopes that I can get a great SP game with true survival horror. Or even just horror, forget the survival! I will take what i can get at this point.
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Im with ya, but I dont think reviews will deter them any bit, so long as the sales are better or on par with RE5.

Im a MEGA RE fan, and choosing to voice my opinion by not buying this game.
 
Haliela said:
Wow serious buyers remorse now. That's the problem with preordering from Amazon. Apparently the game is trash so.... crap.
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Only played the demo but I have a hard time rationalizing how RE6 can be considered a trash game. Play Sonic 06, that's a real fucking trash game.

edited for clarity
 
ironcreed said:
EGM (8.5) - http://www.egmnow.com/articles/reviews/egm-review-resident-evil-6/
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Forget about shambling zombies or the undead legions—survival-horror fans might actually be the most horrifying thing about the genre these days!
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When Resident Evil 6 hits those RE4-like notes—as it does several times throughout Leon’s and Jake’s campaigns—it’s as exhilarating as the series has ever felt. After all, “survival-horror” doesn’t necessarily mean creeping through a dark mansion, stumbling upon a colleague who’s been pecked to death by crows, or tolerating Barry Burton’s hammy one-liners. It’s all about the psychological horror.

Resident Evil 6 isn’t just a scare here or there, though; it’s absolutely relentless. Just when you think you’re in the clear, another bogeyman jumps out of the closet—and, for the most part, Leon’s and Jake’s campaigns strike an excellent balance between building up tension and all-out action.
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If any Resident Evil devotee leaves this experience disappointed…well, I’d question whether they were even fans in the first place.
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THE GOOD: A return to classic Resident Evil psychological horror in just about every way
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Oh, lordy.


If I were a mean dumb jerk I'd be doing the 'post another review from reviewer' thing but I won't because it's not really relevant even if it was pretty controversial.
 
Mr_Zombie said:
I find it amusing how, depending on a game and/or score, people either go "lol, gaming journalism" or "but those are professional reviewers that work really hard for their reputation". Very often both those comments, used in different context, apply to the same reviewers.

One moment it's "you can't spell IGNorance without IGN", the next moment the site is a valuable source of knowledge. One moment EDGE and/or Eurogamer are full of X0 fanboys that hate PS3 exclusives and are biased towards European (UK) developers, other times their opinions are highly regarded and are considered sacred ("they use the whole scale!").
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You're right. Clearly we forgot to factor in the usual inflation of scores. So that should drop the PS3 score down to 30 and the 360 score down to 40.
 
ironcreed said:
So every average-great review is automatically written by a horrible reviewer just because they disagree with the lowest of the low? LOL... right.
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No. That's not what I'm saying. Why the hell does everyone on this thread use strawman? I'm saying their review isn't really qualified to be in the fray of things if the reviewer sucks at reviewing games, or reviewing the game. I'm not talking about the inverse if a review rated the game positive, the reviewer must suck. Don't misrepresent my point.
 
EmCeeGramr said:
Oh, lordy.


If I were a mean dumb jerk I'd be doing the 'post another review from reviewer' thing but I won't because it's not really relevant even if it was pretty controversial.
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Um....look at that background...

Anyway, his concept of classic RE horror, is fucked up if he thinks RE6 is a return to that.
 
lol what happened here.

what happened to my sea change where reviewers stop giving AAA games 8s and 9s all the damn time.

over the course of the day it looks like the discourse has shifted, has the defense force won since this morning?

this game looks shitty to me, people i trust say it's shitty, and i do hope it's shitty so capcom makes a different game next time, as mean and backwards as that sounds.

this page compared to the early pages... this day is nuts.

in the end, we will know this as a shitty game though, hopefully.
 
EmCeeGramr said:
Oh, lordy.


If I were a mean dumb jerk I'd be doing the 'post another review from reviewer' thing but I won't because it's not really relevant even if it was pretty controversial.
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I'll have to play it first before I will know, but maybe the reviewer thought some of the stuff in the game was disturbing? I doubt there will be such scares for me, but I still think I'll have fun. Them opinions, finicky things and everyone seems to have a different one. Funny how that works.
 
Haunted said:
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, I don't think RE6 can be compared with the franchise-destroying awfulness that is MGS4.
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SOMEONE PLEASE make a thread called "Resident Evil 6 vs Metal Gear Solid 4".

EDIT: vs Final Fantasy XIII (optional: vs Heavy Rain)
 
"If you were left wanting in RE5 there’s a good chance RE6 will satisfy you. There’s a reason you’re being fired at, there are plenty of tense moments and stress, the storytelling is superb, and “zombies” make a return. Resident Evil 6 isn't perfect but it’s still a game that everyone should own."

I can barely parse this shit good lord why do we even look at reviews for any kind of analysis, it's hopeless.
 
The Xtortionist said:
Poor choice of words on my part. He didn't but the term "trash game" signals true broken garbage like Sonic 06 which RE6 is not. I'm sure RE6 has its low points but calling trash is mindboggling to me.
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if the game was broken perhaps he would have used a word like 'broken', or something similar to it? "trash game" is simply what it means, a game that is poor in quality. doesn't necessarily mean its broken, just not very good.
 
Game sure is getting a lot of hate from people here.

Honestly i was never a big Resident Evil fan but did enjoy the demo, but you have to take into i am not into the old survival horror games because frankly they scare the shit out of me. I couldn't even make it 2 minutes into the Dead Space 2 demo without noping the fuck out of my living room, which is funny considering i am a HUGE horror film fan. But i dug the demo, it was less scary and more fuck up zombies which I am into.
 
Clear said:
No, it comes down to me basically saying I'm not a zombie who must play to the bitter end even when I'm not in the mood.

Have you never had the experience where you bought a game, but decided you might not be in the right frame of mind for it at the time, and came back to it later?

My point is that this scenario can never present itself for a professional reviewer, as they aren't doing it because they enjoy it specifically, but because its a job of work to them.

Can you not see how this situation would exacerbate feelings of impatience and frustration, and lead to the phenomenon of "overlength" as a pseudo-valid criticism?
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I completely agree with you that review conditions are different from the real world in ways that might exacerbate a negative attitude.

However, I disagree with your notion that a game cannot be "too long." The term "filler" exists for a reason. A 4 hour game filled with a developer's best work is better, in my opinion, than a 10 hour game with 4 hours of great content and 6 hours of mediocre content. Bad content can negate the good content. Once you're done playing a game, your memory is based on an average impression, as well as specific standout moments. The better the average impression, the more fondly you'll remember the game.

I think it's also self-evident that given a fixed budget, team size, development period, level of developer skill, etc, a shorter game will generally maintain a higher average quality than a longer game.
 
Dusk Golem said:
The game is polarizing. For the record, I think the review I agree the most with is this review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiOK3c4qgto
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This is a good review. It doesn't talk enough about some of the negative aspects of the game, but it gives a good idea about what's really great in RE6, and why a lot of people are missing it.

I cannot stress enough how much I fucking hated RE6 at first, even after completing 1 of the campaigns, but the combat is truly fantastic once you get proficient and actually get a chance to use it. Lack of focus, polish and front-loading it with QTEs and linear set pieces are this games big problems. Getting over that crap is what most people won't deal with, and they shouldn't have to.
 
PowderedToast said:
what has happened here:

- anti-japanese sentiment has reached a tipping point in western press
- capcom are an acceptable developer to criticise due to their mixed business practices
- the game is bloated and excessive, but it's also difficult and has a steep learning curve

consequently, re6 becomes the perfect target to;

a. prove journalistic integrity by tearing down an AAA title
b. slaughter a hugely popular japanese brand with a sound 'motive'

reality: re6 still contains more imagination and innovation than most (if not all) AAA western games.
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So funny, so wrong.
 
The only thing the posting of additional reviews is contributing to is highlighting how terribly written these articles are - both the positive and negative ones. They might be subjective opinions, but goddamn are they incredibly shitty and mind-numbing to read. It's like each of them is trying to outperform each other in how much distorted PR bullshit they can fit into a couple of paragraphs.
 
Sojgat said:
This is a good review. It doesn't talk enough about some of the negative aspects of the game, but it gives a good idea about what's really great in RE6, and why a lot of people are missing it.

I cannot stress enough how much I fucking hated RE6 at first, even after completing 1 of the campaigns, but the combat is truly fantastic once you get proficient and actually get a chance to use it. Lack of focus, polish and front-loading it with QTEs and linear set pieces are this games big problems. Getting over that crap is what most people wont deal with, and they shouldn't have to.
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So Asura's Wrath has a higher Metacritic score at the moment. Which is weird because it's like that game is everything about RE6 that reviewers hate with none of the good stuff.
 
Lime said:
The only thing the posting of additional reviews is contributing to is highlighting how terribly written these articles are - both the positive and negative ones. They might be subjective opinions, but goddamn are they incredibly shitty and mind-numbing to read. It's like each of them is trying to outperform each other in how much distorted PR bullshit they can fit into a couple of paragraphs.
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You posted a link to killscreen.

Okay.


Okay.
 
kayos90 said:
No. That's not what I'm saying. Why the hell does everyone on this thread use strawman? I'm saying their review isn't really qualified to be in the fray of things if the reviewer sucks at reviewing games, or reviewing the game. I'm not talking about the inverse if a review rated the game positive, the reviewer must suck. Don't misrepresent my point.
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I get you now, it's all good. That is just stating the obvious, though. But in the case of this game, it's just one of those deals where the people who hate it really hate it (I can understand why with some of the issues) and those who dig it can overlook the flaws and find the good that is there in some of the gameplay mechanics. The rest think it is just OK and are lumped in the middle. It's a very polarizing game, to be sure.

My only point is that everyone seems to be only giving the lowest of the low reviews any credibility, when the game is hardly getting panned across the board with a 70 average. Is it disappointing for a mainline Resident Evil? You bet, but there are more reviews that think it ranges from being at least average to great then there are those that are completely trashing it. You can't just ignore all that and say only the lowest reviews count.
 
2&2 said:
So Asura's Wrath has a higher Metacritic score at the moment. Which is weird because it's like that game is everything about RE6 that reviewers hate with none of the good stuff.
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Maybe Asura's Wrath does whatever the fuck it's supposed to be doing better than RE6 does whatever it's doing?

Context matters. If a game is basically upfront about being all QTEs and they are actually entertaining, it's going to get a warmer reception than a third person shooter with lots of QTEs that are shitty, aggravating, and not entertaining.
 
ironcreed said:
I'll have to play it first before I will know, but maybe the reviewer thought some of the stuff in the game was disturbing? I doubt there will be such scares for me, but I still think I'll have fun. Them opinions, finicky things and everyone seems to have a different one. Funny how that works.
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'psychological horror' is a concept with a specific definition with certain necessary conditions that need to be fulfilled if a phenomenon is to be categorized as such. Looking at RE6, it's a far cry from fulfilling what is the definition of 'psychological horror' held by any rational person familiar with the concept.
 
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