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If the CNN poll was weighted in favour of Republican, surely it means Obama won by a larger margin. How did they come to the conclusion it was a draw?

Could someone please explain?
 
ssolitare said:
I just wanna say that Romney's Voucher tax plan is the best one ever.

Of the deductions you are qualified, you automatically get to pick the biggest deductions to keep and lose the rest!

Marvelous plan! What a choice!
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Its like a reiner knizia game's victory point calculations :)
 
nib95 said:
I'm guessing a world wide poll would have a similar percentage. Unfortunately much of the population of America is not that rationale. The country overall leans far too right.
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In my opinion it's no wonder if you just have just 2 serious political parties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Germany
As example.
Alot more choice to find the exact political backround of yours than deciding between two parties who try to handle everyone....
 
I felt Obama won overall on points, but the most effective segments - in my opinion - where when Romney attacked Obama's record from an economic perspective. When Obama emphasised the deficit Romney would create if he were to enact his plans, (of around 5-8 trillion), Romney responded with the biggest hammer of the night with Obama's deficit and how it was expected to grow, and the economy to slow.
 
nib95 said:
I'm guessing a world wide poll would have a similar percentage. Unfortunately much of the population of America is not that rationale. The country overall leans far too right.
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Watching as an outsider up here in the safety of canada, I really find it hard to understand the American voter.
 
rodvik said:
That binders full of women things is ridiculous. I am an Obama guy but its clear Romney was talking about a binder of resumes. It didnt feel like a gaff at the time and it doesnt now either.

There are many other things Romney did during that debate which are mockworthy, that one isnt.
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Watch the context surrounding the "binders full of women" quote. He comes off as extremely condescending towards women and talks about them as if they were assets. YO WE NEED BITCHES. LIST OF BITCHES HERE? ALL RIGHT, HIRE THEM BITCHES. LOOK! WE GOT MORE BITCHES THAN THE OTHER GUY!! WE PRO-BITCHES!
 
rodvik said:
That binders full of women things is ridiculous. I am an Obama guy but its clear Romney was talking about a binder of resumes. It didnt feel like a gaff at the time and it doesnt now either.

There are many other things Romney did during that debate which are mockworthy, that one isnt.
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True. It seems a bit demeaning tbh.

The internets have spoken on whats 'trending' though. So I am eagerly awaiting the multigenre remixes on YouTube.
 
Jason Raize '75 - '04 said:
No, but here's the thing, with Obama invoking that he did indeed refer to the incident as 'terror', he is stating that it was an act of terrorism, and he said it was the day after. But in the following days, e.g. on the View, he refused to term it as such. At the UN, he spoke of the YouTube video several times giving the impression that the consulate was attacked by a mob rather than a group of terrorists. Only after 14 days did it then start to be exclusively referred to as a 'terrorist attack'.

Personally, I don't even see why this is an issue but if you were going to make an issue out of it, then you certainly have valid criticisms to make in what was said to the public.
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Romney's the one who asked about the specific wording "act of terror" repeatedly. Was the Libya situation a major Obama fuck up? Yes it was. Was this the easiest chance for Romney to score points? Yes it was. Did Romney fuck up his own point? Yes he did. She didn't give context because Romney did a shit job articulating his attack; it's really that simple.
 
The Technomancer said:
And its pretty clear to us that he was saying that the 47% of Americans who don't pay federal income taxes feel entitled to food and shelter and aren't self-responsible. Because that's what he actually said.
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And that is precisely what he meant to communicate to the crowd he was speaking in front of.

That is the strata of society which tells the joke "JOB stands for Just Over Broke". In their philosophy, you're a loser and irresponsible if fighting your way into the top economic bracket isn't your primary life goal. Winners don't merely labor, don't merely have jobs. They have beat the system and used it against itself by becoming wealthy enough to use their money to make more money for free. Actually being a regular person is for losers with no ambition. And if you're currently not progressing towards their idea of a goal, you're lazy - even if you're working 80 hours a week at three jobs and taking care of a family.

This is why it's so hard for Mitt to hide his arrogance of privilege and he keeps slipping back into rude contempt. He is from that world, where one doesn't have to explain why one's life philosophy is intrinsically superior, and where one's overall outlook is never questioned. It's a nice club to be in.
 
mdphilli said:
It would be fiscally irresponsible if he were trying his hardest to win the election to spend money trying to win those people over. The 47% don't need to rely on the government for food and shelter. There are some, yeah, who need more help than others. But not 47%.

Everyone is trying to make this about his domestic policies. The statement was made about the campaign.
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He's running for president, he's showing that no fucks are given if your the 47%. This is how he feels about society and does not deserve to run my country like so.
 
My favorite part of the debate was when Obama choked when Romney confronted him on his terrorism remarks. Seems Obama learned nothing from the last debate.
 
Jason Raize '75 - '04 said:
I felt Obama won overall on points, but the most effective segments - in my opinion - where when Romney attacked Obama's record from an economic perspective. When Obama emphasised the deficit Romney would create if he were to enact his plans, (of around 5-8 trillion), Romney responded with the biggest hammer of the night with Obama's deficit and how it was expected to grow, and the economy to slow.
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The economy isn't expected to slow. A few economists have predicted 12 million jobs resulting from the policies put in place today. Yes that's the same number Mitt's giving. So according to him, he's not even going to do any better than economists say Obama will.
 
nib95 said:
If the CNN poll was weighted in favour of Republican, surely it means Obama won by a larger margin. How did they come to the conclusion it was a draw?

Could someone please explain?
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CNN over the last week want to get more ratings, so the more they have polls that are "close" or somehow show a narrative of the campaigns being closer than they are, the better for their station as a whole.

However, it is intellectually dishonest to claim anything other than an Obama victory tonight. Glad that Obama and the moderator decided to show up. It was refreshing. I also feel that the town hall style does not favor Romney in the slightest as that is not his strong suit.
 
RagnarokX said:
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How is it possible to have 3600 images of Portman? I mean what the hell is the point?
 
nib95 said:
If the CNN poll was weighted in favour of Republican, surely it means Obama won by a larger margin. How did they come to the conclusion it was a draw?

Could someone please explain?
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CNN is in third place because they pander to nobody and they somehow think that if they keep digging deeper in this idea of "fairness" (read: pandering to EVERYBODY and praying to God that they look fair; which means never attacking the right or the left and letting them regurgitate their talking points.) then they'll somehow stop the bleeding. Plus, close races are good for viewers I guess.

At least Fox is good at what they do: right wing propaganda. CNN is just shit at just about everything.
 
Oblivion said:
My favorite part of the debate was when Obama choked when Romney confronted him on his terrorism remarks. Seems Obama learned nothing from the last debate.
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Obama was only choking because he enjoys erotic asphyxiation. The POTUS loosened the belt and busted all over Romney's face.
 
Jason Raize '75 - '04 said:
I felt Obama won overall on points, but the most effective segments - in my opinion - where when Romney attacked Obama's record from an economic perspective. When Obama emphasised the deficit Romney would create if he were to enact his plans, (of around 5-8 trillion), Romney responded with the biggest hammer of the night with Obama's deficit and how it was expected to grow, and the economy to slow.
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That may be true but Obama's growth in spending is still less than has been from a President in many decades. He should have brought that up. But at least Obama has specified areas he'd make savings. Cut in military spend, higher taxes on the elite, Obamacare, loopholes etc.

Romney's is grossly un specific. Tonnes of things that ADD to the deficit but only a vague loopholes argument to counter the difference. Hate to quote the party line, but indeed the math does not add up. Obama wins this handily on specifics alone.

Obama nailed it when he switched it on Romney on the question of would he hire himself at Bain. With that shady deal, you just wouldn't.
 
BrhysH said:
Watching as an outsider up here in the safety of canada, I really find it hard to understand the American voter.
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Watching as an insider here in the US, I really find it hard to understand the American voter. It's fun going to the break room and listening to the Rush listeners getting themselves worked up in a furry over things they don't understand. The rest of us just sit there and do our own thing and then have a good laugh once they're away. They often talk down to me for watching Colbert like he's my news source while all their information comes from Rush. The only difference is that I realize both are entertainment.
 
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