Halo 4: Review Thread

x-Lundz-x said:
I think if you put up a poll asking what people were looking forward too most, the SP campaign or MP you might be surprised.
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If the campaign and multiplayer were split into two separate games, I'd be surprised if more people bought the campaign.
 
The Eurogamer article is very well written, just like the Uncharted 3 one. Just remove the damn number from your mind and actually start reading it.
 
plagiarize said:
when it's applied to a AAA first party exclusive it's always reacted too with utter insanity. CF Eurogamer's Uncharted 3 8/10. Any Zelda 8/10. etc.
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Is there much of that 'console war' mentality these days? Feel like the generation has gone on too long and most people has lost interest.
 
Not that it matters but so far:

Metacritic Score's:

Halo 3 - 94

Halo 3: ODST - 83 (surprising low)

Halo Reach - 91

Halo 4 - 90 (pending)

This puts halo 4 score wise on par with:

Assassin's Creed II

Bayonetta

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter

Trials Evolution

Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned

FIFA Soccer 12

FIFA Soccer 10

Mark of the Ninja

Dark Souls: Artorias of the Abyss

Portal: Still Alive

LIMBO

Super Meat Boy

Dead Space 2

Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2

Borderlands 2

Forza Motorsport 2

Metal Gear Solid HD Collection

NBA 2K12

FIFA Soccer 13
 
BLAZER said:
Not that it matters but so far:

Metacritic Score's:

Halo 3 - 94

Halo 3: ODST - 83 (surprising low)

Halo Reach - 91

Halo 4 - 90 (pending)
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Well, ODST was very good but it was still just a relatively short campaign packed with H3's multi. So 83 is pretty reasonable.
 
LastNac said:
Ironically, same guy who gave Halo an 8 on Eurogamer was the same guy that gave Uncharted 3 an 8.


This guy...
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Yeah saw that earlier, he also reviewed RE6 (6/10) & Dragon's Dogma(7/10)...he seems to be the go to guy for high profile games in Eurogamer lately.
 
chickdigger802 said:
Is there much of that 'console war' mentality these days? Feel like the generation has gone on too long and most people has lost interest.
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judging from this thread and the Uncharted 3 review threads? i'd guess so yes. also, Wii U threads have been heating up like circa 2004, so I don't think it's gone away so much as been less obvious.

Microsoft's first party output has been either niche (like Forza 4) or family friendly of late. it's been a few years since we got a big blockbuster mainstream AAA title out of them. people loved to bag on Halo this gen for having poor graphics, but that's not an option any more.

so yeah, I think this has got people nicely riled up again, on both sides, either chest beating or nitpicking.
 
I go into this thread and the first post I see is a negative one in regards to the Eurogamer 8.

This game has mostly 10's and 9's from the press. If anything, you should appreciate that not every single person feels the need to bloat the game's score beyond what they thought it deserved. Obviously the score range is in line with previous Halo games so why make a fuss?
 
BLAZER said:
Not that it matters but so far:

Metacritic Score's:

Halo 3 - 94

Halo 3: ODST - 83 (surprising low)

Halo Reach - 91

Halo 4 - 90 (pending)
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Shortness, nothing new to Halo 3, multiplayer experience and price. Also, people didn't appreciate the feel of wandering the dark streets of New Mombasa.
ODST deserves some of its criticism (indeed, probably most of it) but it is too often reviewed as a full game, which MS stupidly made it. If it were a XBLA game... imagine the ratings.

EDIT and 83 is a good score overall.
 
Rash said:
I go into this thread and the first post I see is a negative one in regards to the Eurogamer 8.

This game has mostly 10's and 9's from the press. If anything, you should appreciate that not every single person feels the need to bloat the game's score beyond what they thought it deserved. Obviously the score range is in line with previous Halo games so why make a fuss?
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Was I complaining? No. Just found the similarities to be ironic.
 
Ken Masters said:
why did IGN give the game a 9.8 as opposed to a 9.9 or 9.7?
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Its IGN and they have the old score method back. Knew before review it'd be a 9.8.

On ODST, didn't most people feel it wasn't quite a full game? Not that it was bad, but yeah MS made stupid mistakes over that one; seem to remember a lot of 'it should be DLC' comments. Still a good score however - again anything +70 is a good game.
 
Woorloog said:
Shortness, nothing new to Halo 3, multiplayer experience and price. Also, people didn't appreciate the feel of wandering the dark streets of New Mombasa.
ODST deserves some of its criticism (indeed, probably most of it) but it is too often reviewed as a full game, which MS stupidly made it. If it were a XBLA game... imagine the ratings.
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I never understood the logic of review a game against its price.

First, reviewers don't even buy their games so what place do they have to suggest where people spend money.

Second, price is relative. If the mindset that $60 ODST was an 8, does the review score go up when the price goes down?
 
LastNac said:
I never understood the logic of review a game against its price.

First, reviewers don't even buy their games so what place do they have to suggest where people spend money.

Second, price is relative. If the mindset that $60 ODST was an 8, does the review score go up when the price goes down?
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Hmm, i see your point, kinda.
But ODST was designed as a short, stand-alone expansion for Halo 3, not a full-priced game. It can be clearly seen in the design, shortness.
That needs to be taken into account in a review, i think. Does the game do what is was supposed to do?
Can't quite apply an universal standard review method for everything.

EDIT that said, i don't quite remember of reviewers noted this or how they reviewed the game, not counting scores.
 
chickdigger802 said:
Is there much of that 'console war' mentality these days? Feel like the generation has gone on too long and most people has lost interest.
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You will be surprised by the amount of console warriors fighting the 2005 fight these days even after 7 years into this gen, just hop into the next inevitable "is the 360 worth it?" thread that will be created and you'll see what I'm talking about.
 
LastNac said:
I never understood the logic of review a game against its price.

First, reviewers don't even buy their games so what place do they have to suggest where people spend money.

Second, price is relative. If the mindset that $60 ODST was an 8, does the review score go up when the price goes down?
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For some people price factors in. For me personally though? I could care less. If a game isn't worth playing at $60, it's not worth it at $10...hell, I probably wouldn't even bother if it was free. I care more about the wasted time than the wasted money.
 
Wow, that Edge review was bad. I don't care about the score, I haven't played the game myself, but they barely even talked about the game. Like, barely a paragraph about weapons and level design. They lamented on the change in multiplayer for like one paragraph. Also complained that the new enemies dissolve instead of just falling to the ground or whatever. Total of 12 short paragraphs for arguably the biggest game of the year and it's mostly "fluff". Is this really the best that game journalism has to offer?
 
Woorloog said:
Hmm, i see your point, kinda.
But ODST was designed as a short, stand-alone expansion for Halo 3, not a full-priced game. It can be clearly seen in the design, shortness.
That needs to be taken into account in a review, i think. Does the game do what is was supposed to do?
Can't quite apply an universal standard review method for everything.

EDIT that said, i don't quite remember of reviewers noted this or how they reviewed the game, not counting scores.
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I remember some reviewers quipped that it was a"tad bit over priced" in their review. I think that is completely subjective.
 
Going off-topic.

I must be in the minority that absolutely loved Uncharted 3. While 2 is still my favorite in the series, 3 is a great entry and i think the scores are very warranted. I liked the game even more once they fixed the aiming.
 
LastNac said:
I remember some reviewers quipped that it was a"tad bit over priced" in their review. I think that is completely subjective.
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True. I was satisfied by ODST, the MP map disc was nice thing too.
Of course i didn't pay quite the full price, got for 50€ (normal price here is 69.90€).
 
I would like to see harsher review environment for these AAA games, we need more places holding them to a higher standard. Not just accepting their marketing money and then generating a perfect score.
Eurogamer, Edge, giant bomb are giving out lower scores than most and seem to be reviewing it a little more objectively.


IGN still seems up to their usual tricks though with their 9.8/10 score. Destructoid as well giving it a 10 seems to be circumspect since they admitted to changing their opinion over Marketing dollars last year during the Forbe's articles.

I'm not saying that Halo isn't a good game, I just have trouble believing that they have generated such a perfect and sublime experience that it warrants perfect scores.
 
lantus said:
Going off-topic.

I must be in the minority that absolutely loved Uncharted 3. While 2 is still my favorite in the series, 3 is a great entry and i think the scores are very warranted. I liked the game even more once they fixed the aiming.
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Lots of people love 3. Vocal minority and all that.

Great game that suffered from a insanely short development time, split team and the crushing weight of expectation after UC2.
 
lantus said:
Going off-topic.

I must be in the minority that absolutely loved Uncharted 3. While 2 is still my favorite in the series, 3 is a great entry and i think the scores are very warranted. I liked the game even more once they fixed the aiming.
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You're not alone friend. UC3 is my favorite(and most likely my favorite experience with a controller in my hands to date) in the series and found myself absolutely amazed at Chapter 18. Don't really see it as a "game" and often refer to it as an interactive cinematic experience as often as I can.

And guess what, it came out a year ago today.
 
Grief.exe said:
I would like to see harsher review environment for these AAA games, we need more places holding them to a higher standard. Not just accepting their marketing money and then generating a perfect score.
Eurogamer, Edge, giant bomb are giving out lower scores than most and seem to be reviewing it a little more objectively.


IGN still seems up to their usual tricks though with their 9.8/10 score. Destructoid as well giving it a 10 seems to be circumspect since they admitted to changing their opinion over Marketing dollars last year during the Forbe's articles.

I'm not saying that Halo isn't a good game, I just have trouble believing that they have generated such a perfect and sublime experience that it warrants perfect scores.
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For some it is and some it isnt.

Different people and different views.
 
Grief.exe said:
I would like to see harsher review environment for these AAA games, we need more places holding them to a higher standard. Not just accepting their marketing money and then generating a perfect score.
Eurogamer, Edge, giant bomb are giving out lower scores than most and seem to be reviewing it a little more objectively.
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A lower number doesn't make a review more objective or a better critique.
 
Problem with uncharted 3 review thread was that few group of started with "all reviews are fake apart from eurogamer" which led to a huge fight.

I think people should play the game first and then say whether which review is right and which is not
 
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