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[StRaNgE]

Whoa whoa... tv tuners are just for getting broadcast tv signals period. It doesn't have anything to do with motion quality. That's determined by refresh rate.

ok so i'm confused a bit.

if i was getting a screen TV/monitor for my 360 only for games and to watch dvd's through it it sounds like a monitor is the way to go???

if i NEVER plan to watch tv in it only movies and games is this the best choice.

can i get one in the 20-30" range that is as sweet as a plasma?

 

[DaCocoBrova]

btw: is really useful the HDTV quality with just 19 inches?

Nope. Not IMO. Squint vision.

 

[Jefklak]

If you're in buying a TV, only to *watch* TV and use for consoles (so what I'm saying no need to connect to your PC) - then why are you guys still buying LCD?
Plasma > LCD in every aspect, sharper brighter better clearer etc. Right? Only (a helluvalot) more expensive

Or is this just a fairytale? I tought, even for gaming on PC, CRT > LCD and plasma owns all?

 

[raYne]

Does it have HDMI?

No HDMI, but it doesn't do 1080p either.

Hmm yeah, the specs page on that page is pretty crappy. Soo:

Size- 19"
Resolution- 1440(H) x 900(V)
Contrast Ratio- 700:1
Brightness-
Viewing Angle- 150º(H)/135º(V)
Video Inputs- 1 x RF, 1 x DVI, 1 x Component, 1 x Composite, 1 x S-Video, 1 x VGA
RGB Inputs- DVI, PC
Audio System- Speakers
TV Tuner- NTSC
HDTV Compatibilty- yes (480i/480p/720p/1080i)
Moving Picture Response Speed- 8ms
Unique Features-
Dimensions- W x H x D
without stand: 19.1" x 14.5" x 2.3"
with stand: 19.1" x 16.1" x 7.9"
Weight- 11.9 lbs.

 

[DaCocoBrova]

If you're in buying a TV, only to *watch* TV and use for consoles (so what I'm saying no need to connect to your PC) - then why are you guys still buying LCD?
Plasma > LCD in every aspect, sharper brighter better clearer etc. Right? Only (a helluvalot) more expensive

Or is this just a fairytale? I tought, even for gaming on PC, CRT > LCD and plasma owns all?

Things have changed and full HD plasmas are much more affordable than they were years ago, but some issues remain:

Image retention. I used to refer to this as burn in, but it's not permanent. It's basically temporary burn in.

Price.

And price.

 

[Tempy]

"HD-grade 1440(H) x 900(V) pixel resolution"

Is see this a lot. What does it mean when trying to display 720p or 1080p games?

 

[DaCocoBrova]

^^

It'll have to interpolate (fill in the blanks so to speak) the missing pixel information. Not pretty.

Full HD will have 1080 lines of vertical resolution.

 

[raYne]

If you're in buying a TV, only to *watch* TV and use for consoles (so what I'm saying no need to connect to your PC) - then why are you guys still buying LCD?
Plasma > LCD in every aspect, sharper brighter better clearer etc. Right? Only (a helluvalot) more expensive

Or is this just a fairytale? I tought, even for gaming on PC, CRT > LCD and plasma owns all?

All of this still depends on two things, price and size. Looking at the title I don't think the op's looking for some huge LCD or Plasma. Especially since the description of something "computer screen sized" was in his post. The problem with not going with an LCD in this specific case is that you won't find a CRT display with the inputs he should be looking for.

 

[sorryaboutdresden]

I'm such a n00b when it comes to these things. I'm a college junior with a really crappy 20inch SDTV but I own a 360 and I am planning to purchase a Wii and hopefully a PS3 in the coming months. As of now I don't have the 360 with me at school since it looks like ass on my shitty Symphonic TV.

I definitely need to upgrade to something that can support my gaming habit but will also allow for me to watch ESPN and such. Again, I'm really lacking in knowledge when it comes to this, but what do you have to do to watch television on those monitors, the 19inch Samsung and the Phillips that were previously posted? If its an easy process I'll definitely be picking either of them up by mid November.

 

[Mrbob]

SAMSUNG 940MW-SV Silver 19" 8ms Widescreen LCD Monitor with TV Tuner 300 cd/m2 700:1 Built in Speakers 0.294mm Pixel Pitch

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001073

$329, $299 with mail-in rebate.

I have this monitor, have my 360 hooked up to it and it is totally sexy time. There is a composite input on the side but you don't need that. Component hookup on the back ftw. X360 looks awesome on it.

I bought mine for around $450 8 months ago and love it. $299 is a steal.

 

[raYne]

I definitely need to upgrade to something that can support my gaming habit but will also allow for me to watch ESPN and such. Again, I'm really lacking in knowledge when it comes to this, but what do you have to do to watch television on those monitors, the 19inch Samsung and the Phillips that were previously posted? If its an easy process I'll definitely be picking either of them up by mid November.

Monitors with tv tuners have the same RF input as regular tvs. You don't have to do anything special, just plug/screw in the cable connection as normal.

The problem with going with those in this case, is that they neither come with or work with remote controls (no IR connection). So that'd be a pain in the ass.

 

[Jefklak]

I have this monitor, have my 360 hooked up to it and it is totally sexy time. There is a composite input on the side but you don't need that. Component hookup on the back ftw. X360 looks awesome on it.

Could you make us some pics with the thing turned on? That would be awesome!
I'm no fan of the 'ugly' looking speakers attached on the bottom, raYne's SAMSUNG seems sleeker, both same contrast and ms rate

 

[StRaNgE]

ok so i'm confused a bit.

if i was getting a screen TV/monitor for my 360 only for games and to watch dvd's through it it sounds like a monitor is the way to go???

if i NEVER plan to watch tv in it only movies and games is this the best choice.

can i get one in the 20-30" range that is as sweet as a plasma?

i feel so invisable here sometimes. lol

must be the fish...






so from reading this i DO NOT need a tuner to watch DVD's or play the 360 ?
so i should be able to get more for my money picture wise and size wise then?

 

[Joates]

About the samsung one. Im concerned that if I were to get a monitor like this. How will the odd resolution (1440x900) scale over component and what about VGA. Hopefully MS adds a lot more resolutions to the the VGA adapter with the fall update.

 

[raYne]

so from reading this i DO NOT need a tuner to watch DVD's or play the 360 ?

No. The tuner is for watching actual tv. On-air stuff like NBC/ABC/HBO etc.. you know TV.

If you're watching DVDs or playing games you'll be using other input connections. Composite/Component whatever...

so i should be able to get more for my money picture wise and size wise then?

Yes.

 

[sorryaboutdresden]

So which one should I consider buying more the Phillips or the Samsung?

 

[Shogmaster]

I'm really bad with 1080i and 1080P and all that jazz..what's the difference and if I'm not mistaken..the 360 will be running HD DvDs on 1080P, right?

I thought that was just for games.

yeah, well I'm confused about that because Peter More was still saying both HD DVDs & games in some videos that just went up on IGN

 

[raYne]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/Shogmaster/NGvideoConOptions-1.gif

Needs more zombait.

So which one should I consider buying more the Phillips or the Samsung?

Not the Phillips, stay away from that.

There are probably better choices, but either of the two Samsungs posted by are the way to go. Plus the 940MW-SV uses magic, so I think you know what the best choice is...

 

[Shogmaster]

Needs more zombait

:lol

 

[bigsnack]

The Samsung @ Newegg seems terrific (I'm in the market for a 360/PC monitor as well), but how are the speakers in monitors like this? I'm nervous about getting it and having great picture, but also having to deal with tinny audio.

 

[Jefklak]

I don't know if this is relevant, but the link is intresting:
http://www.pulia.nu/~ree/compon_vs_compos/index.html

PS2 SCII composite 635 interlaced

PS2 SCII component 525 progressive

Most games can be checked here http://hdgames.net/
So, PAL cube and the compontent cable from lik-sang/play-asia etc does work? need more research...
Edit: what the schnitzel? importing NTSC games to get them to run progressive?

 

[sorryaboutdresden]

I'm really liking the Samsung 940MW-SV, but could you please explain a little more about watching broadcast tv on it? Particularly how you go about changing the channels since as you said its incompatible with remote controllers.

 

[Servizio]

Stupid question. Why are the VGA rows NA for the PS3?

 

[DaCocoBrova]

Stupid question. Why are the VGA rows NA for the PS3?

 

[StRaNgE]

No. The tuner is for watching actual tv. On-air stuff like NBC/ABC/HBO etc.. you know TV.

If you're watching DVDs or playing games you'll be using other input connections. Composite/Component whatever...

Yes.

thank you

 

[raYne]

I'm really liking the Samsung 940MW-SV, but could you please explain a little more about watching broadcast tv on it? Particularly how you go about changing the channels since as you said its incompatible with remote controllers.

See the buttons on the front of the monitor? On the right side between the speaker vents and the screen? Skip two buttons starting from the right and the next four are volume up/down and channel up/down. So you'll be using those.

There are no numerical keys though, so if you have a lot of channels between the current and destination, you'll have quite a bit of surfing to do. A minor annoyance, but meh...

Stupid question. Why are the VGA rows NA for the PS3?

No VGA cable has been annouced.

 

[Mrbob]

I don't have a camera right now so pics ftl. Sorry. :/

The Samsung @ Newegg seems terrific (I'm in the market for a 360/PC monitor as well), but how are the speakers in monitors like this? I'm nervous about getting it and having great picture, but also having to deal with tinny audio.

Yeah the speakers aren't going to be the same as a 5.1 setup (which I also have). I tested out the speakers and they are OK. Actually it is pretty loud at having the volume only up halfway. The Samsung 940MW has a dolby virtual audio setting which actually is pretty good at trying to nail 3D positional sound out of two speakers. The speakers won't compare to a 5.1 setup, but as they are aren't horrible.

The samsung 19" widescreen 940MW does come with a remote control.

 

[raYne]

The samsung 19" widescreen also does come with a remote control.

It does? Hmm... They should really have these things listed on the specs.

 

[Mrbob]

It does? Hmm... They should really have these things listed on the specs.

Unless Samsung took them out but I doubt it.

I got one in my box.

 

[jvalioli]

The remote is in one of the pictures.

 

[Matt]

It does? Hmm... They should really have these things listed on the specs.

It does. Here is a picture:

 

[Mrbob]

Yeah I just noticed the remote in the newegg pic.

Also Bestbuy still lists it as a pack in.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...CategoryId=pcmcat81200050032&id=1130986316511

Remote still included.

 

[raYne]

The remote is in one of the pictures.

Says you!

..cheap remote ftl. It'll get the job done though.

 

[TheGreatDave]

Anybody in the UK picked up a decent monitor for 360 play? I'm about to put down my money on a 360 I think, but I need something that I can get a good picture from. I'll always be sitting right on top of it, so I don't care about size (greater than 17 inch should be fine), I just want it to take VGA and Component.

 

[Captain N]

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?PROD=LVM-37W3&xzoom=Large-1#xview

can I use that as just a tv without hooking it to a computer?

 

[Shogmaster]

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?PROD=LVM-37W3&xzoom=Large-1#xview

can I use that as just a tv without hooking it to a computer?

Yes. It has 2 Component ports, 1 S-Video, and a composite.

 

[sorryaboutdresden]

Samsung 940MW-SV FTW! I can't wait to get this! My 360 backlist has gotten way to long since I've gone back to school.

 

[Chris_C]

I picked up this refurbished 30" Philips Widescreen HDTV for $387. So far so good. It's got HDMI but only one component input. Works fine as an intermediary till prices go down enough for me to get a real nice one. It displays 480p,720p and 1080i. Only one component input though, and no tuner. DO NOT get the model with the tuner, it's borked.

 

[Diablohead]

Get. A. Monitor.

VGA is the new fad, join us

It does. Here is a picture:

I have to say before i pass out by beer, that this samsung lcd is what I have and its damn awesome, I have the same remote

*double edit* I paid £300 for mine when it was £100 off retalil last year, still worth it. Btw users, vga looks alot better then component on this thing.

 

[Calidor]

Wow! so it comes with a remote control AND the speakers are great quality? that monitor is the definitive solution I think

 

[Diablohead]

Wow! so it comes with a remote control AND the speakers are great quality? that monitor is the definitive solution I think

For how flat and thin they are, they give better bass then some pc speakers.

 

[Mister Zimbu]

I picked up this refurbished 30" Philips Widescreen HDTV for $387. So far so good. It's got HDMI but only one component input. Works fine as an intermediary till prices go down enough for me to get a real nice one. It displays 480p,720p and 1080i. Only one component input though, and no tuner. DO NOT get the model with the tuner, it's borked.

Care to expand upon the borking a bit more? I'm in the market for a cheap HDTV that'd I'd actually use for TV, but I'm dropping cable in awhile so I'd need a tuner for broadcast signals. What's wrong with the TV? Is it something bad with the tuner or is the TV itself bad?

Should the lack of a VGA port really be a deal breaker? What would I *need* a VGA port for?

 

[jvalioli]

Should I get the 19" Samsung posted early ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001073 ) or should I spend more and get this 23" Samsung ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16889102055 ). I'd be using it for TV, Wii, 360 and probably the PS3 aswell and it would go in a (smallish) bedroom.

 

[raYne]

Should I get the 19' Samsung posted early ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001073 ) or should I spend more and get this 23' Samsung ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16889102055 ). I'd be using it for TV, Wii, 360 and probably the PS3 aswell and it would go in a (smallish) bedroom.

There's no advantage to getting the 19" over that, so if you want it.. go for it. You'll get HDMI, a much better contrast ratio and a standard res to boot.

 

[mug]

Care to expand upon the borking a bit more? I'm in the market for a cheap HDTV that'd I'd actually use for TV, but I'm dropping cable in awhile so I'd need a tuner for broadcast signals. What's wrong with the TV? Is it something bad with the tuner or is the TV itself bad?

Should the lack of a VGA port really be a deal breaker? What would I *need* a VGA port for?

I picked up the Samsung 26" from officedepot.com for $442 shipped. HD tuner, HDMI, good speakers, etc. It even has optical audio output and 2 antenna ports if you have satellite w/out local channels, etc.

 

[Chris_C]

Care to expand upon the borking a bit more? I'm in the market for a cheap HDTV that'd I'd actually use for TV, but I'm dropping cable in awhile so I'd need a tuner for broadcast signals. What's wrong with the TV? Is it something bad with the tuner or is the TV itself bad?

Should the lack of a VGA port really be a deal breaker? What would I *need* a VGA port for?

From researching the 30" model on AV forums, I found out that the extra space required for the tuner pretty much messed with the sets ability to recieve SD signals, if you're not looking for those then I guess it's ok. It's worth noting that most of these sets have some geometry issues when displaying 4:3 images.

 

[Gek54]

You didn't get the slimfit did you? I don't know much about TV's but even I know it is trouble.

Also where in the world can you find a 30' Sony CRT. I would love to have one but they have been discontinued and the only model they still sell doesn't have the super fine pitch.

Yeah it was a slimfit, I exchanged it for another one and this new one has even more problems, geomerty is all wonky and there is a brown spot on the side of the screen.

Err I meant 34'. My circuit city has that and the previous model with super fine pitch but the old model is only a display model and has huge gashes in the plastic, a bad nick in the glass and they still want $780 for it. It is realy realy hard to tell the difference between the picture of the two.

 

[Matt]

I picked up the Samsung 26" from officedepot.com for $442 shipped. HD tuner, HDMI, good speakers, etc. It even has optical audio output and 2 antenna ports if you have satellite w/out local channels, etc.

Yeah, the TXR2678WH:

That seems...perfect. For TV, Wii, maybe 360 or PS3. Guys, what do you think?

 

[Calidor]

Yeah, the TXR2678WH:

That seems...perfect. For TV, Wii, maybe 360 or PS3. Guys, what do you think?

ugh it's huge.. isn't that a CRT anyways?

 

[Matt]

ugh it's huge.. isn't that a CRT anyways?

Yeah, it is. I was talking about for me.