If you can't articulate why you like something, then why should anyone else care what you think?
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If you can't articulate why you like something, then why should anyone else care what you think?
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Even SAO can leap over a bar thats laying on the ground.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I love Jojo as much as any other hot-blooded male in here, but there's plenty of room for improvement in it.
Lol, sorry, but this cracks me up. Nothing to do with Elfen Lied though. In most cases, anime might as well be 12 FPS anyway.
No man, I just understand that some people just can't really describe things they like in detailed ways.
These type of questions are subjective. There's no right answer. IF someone genuinely enjoyed the so called "shitty" anime, who am I to actually say that he's wrong?
Personally I think people shouldn't worry about "listening to animegaf" so much but still be open enough to try new things such that might learn which posters their tastes align with.
My friend who was just getting back into anime the same time is me really sold the show like 4 episodes in. I think he apologized like 3 episodes later.
Asuna obviously represents the fact that both eastern and western media don't know what the hell a strong female character is.
We haven't done our duty if that bar hasn't been buried yet.
Crash Station
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I think there's a difference between an ability to articulate, and dissenters disregarding your articulation for whatever reason.
Why does it have to be good for people to enjoy it? Enjoyment is a feeling, and mainly subjective. Oftentimes I cannot even explain why I like something in particular, I just do.
In Elfen Lied's case I enjoyed the way it portrayed a bunch of girls as horrible monsters, but they still had a bit of humanity to them. It was interesting to see how they reacted when someone was actually trying to be kind to them despite how they were seemingly programmed to hate humanity. It was unevenly paced, poorly written, and definitely tried at times to cater to various fanservice, but the series struck a chord with me, and it was a positive one. Ive seen other anime where characters pee themselves, so that wasnt an issue to me. I thought it was silly, myself, but I just saw it as Nyuu being like a child or a lost dog and unable to fully control what she was doing. It was actually fascinating to see what was such a powerful and dominant character a short time before becoming this completely helpless and even cute girl. It was even more interesting when nana showed up and she wasnt even able to bring herself to kill anything, despite what she was. and then the other girl showed up and she was completely ruthless, but looked the youngest and most harmless of all, but was by far the most dangerous.
I also have to say I really enjoyed seeing that
complete asshole mercenary guy and what Lucy eventually did to him
Crash Station
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I agree. I think the problem with any anime community (or anime fans in general really) is hyperbole. Highlighting things you like or don't like, making a bigger deal out of them than they really are, etc. It's the kind of stuff that can drastically alter someone else's perception of a series, or outright misrepresent it for them.
That was just a random number, don't mind.
Actually, anime "critics" are usually pretty similar to the 60FPS guys on Gaming-GAF side. Really annoying...
I can say that SAO got a lot worse... outside of episode 20... it's much worse than the first part so far, at least IMO.
Why it's successfull? Now that's something I don't fully understand too...
Didn't we all know that it was going to get worse when we first saw that new art reveal?
There's no harm in wanting a product to be better, whether it's a game or some anime. People generally take offense at the notion of such things as an assault on their personal tastes rather than a proper criticism.
It's not just anime fans.
I liked the contrast between cute girls and fucking gross/gore things. Really, this contrast was really great. Actually, I'm looking for shows like it (with this contrast between gore/cute), do you have some recomendations?
sometimes its not even animated at all
JoooooJooooooooooooooooo
It compesates with other things, though.
KuwabaraTheMan
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LOL! I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought "Sony Ponies" was hilarious.
No harm in criticism at all. Its healthy discussion. It becomes a problem when you get shit like this:
This is when it becomes insulting. Not merely criticizing the show, but criticizing THE PEOPLE WHO ENJOY IT. Thats what the fuck I am talking about.
Oh, I realize that. I love JoJo. Sometimes you have to pick on the things you love.
That's understandable.
Crash Station
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Internet in general I guess. Though really, it's unavoidable. I'm sure plenty of people buy into love/hate of something they would have otherwise disliked/enjoyed. In the case of the latter, it's an interesting thought that people would never experience something that for all they know could be end up being a favorite of their's.
I promise that this is the last time I go off topic with P4 discussion, but you'll find it relevant to this conversation that I just capped this in P4G a couple of days ago:
yeah...
People who like Dragonaut are bad and should feel bad.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I would probably live with this if the nineties OVA series didn't exist. It's gonna be real weird if David Production ever gets around animating that arc.
Maybe Narutaru? I haven't watched it so I can't attest to its quality. I just see it recommended every so often and your question reminded me of that.
Goddammit.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Yeah, that's completely fair. Criticizing points is fine, but when it goes over board and becomes an attack against a person that's too much. There should be a line in there somewhere.
That's on them regardless. If they can't investigate past what random person says about a property, their loss.
Ultimadrago
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I can't roll my eyes back any further.
I almost wouldn't mind them skipping part 3 and going right to part 4. Either way, as long as they can keep it going, I don't really care if a better version exists. More JoJo is always a good thing.
But......but.....I actually found that line funny. Still, I picked the "It's short for Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeak" option, which was way funnier.
You mean the "60fps guys" who demand something that makes games objectively better? Well, that's good company. Thank you.
I don't see an attack in Theonik's post.
KuwabaraTheMan
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I think there's certainly a difference between buying into 'hype'/'antihype' and passing on something, or actually reading what people say and deciding something is not for you. Most people don't have time to check out everything, so if you see a lot of people criticizing something (and the criticisms seem valid), I think it's fair to go, 'well, maybe this isn't worth my time'.
ok, so reading back on the last two pages, I can only say: what?
oh god this means it's perma isn't it
FUCK
FUCK WHY TOMAT IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY TOMAT NO BAKA
oh god this means it's perma isn't it
FUCK
FUCK WHY TOMAT IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY TOMAT NO BAKA
ok, so reading back on the last two pages, I can only say: what?
oh god this means it's perma isn't it
FUCK
FUCK WHY TOMAT IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY TOMAT NO BAKA
He couldn't get a permaban for such innocuous trolling, could he? I hope not. I may disagree with him on occasion, but I'll miss him the same.
Narutaru could be a possibility. Certainly starts out cute and gets REALLY fucked up later.
I honestly cant think of many shows that do that other than higurashi though.
Most fucked up shows dont hide under a facade of cute.
Narutaru has one scene where
a girl fucking her BF gets a claw in her vagina and then ripped in half
At that point, I'd hope one would be taking the opinion of someone they trust though so they could feel confident about the decision.
Chet Rippo
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For which statement?
At this point I watch about anything that AnimeGaf likes or DTL dislikes. It's worked out well thus far.
Sorry, DTL, you're great. I just don't agree.
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