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NHL Lockout With Your Cock Out |OT|
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I'm going to rant for a minute here, please forgive me.
I don't understand why the NHL owners would even come back to the negotiating table at this point.
This was embarrassing.
There are dozens of debatable issues on the table, but the NHL gave three points that they made sure everyone understood they aren't willing to move on. They'll give and give and give, but on those three key points, they are NON-NEGOTIABLE.
The PA in return, of course tried to negotiate on those three points.
If I was an owner, I would be infuriated.
This is their business. They have every right to run their business the way they want to.
The NHLPA are employees, not the brand. The customers are loyal to the jersey, not the bodies wearing them. The league turns these individuals into stars and pays them millions. When a player is traded, he becomes an enemy we no longer cheer, and we pick right up where we left off, cheering on our teams on any given night.
When this all starts up again, we won't cheer every Saturday night because we're happy to have these players back on the ice, we'll cheer because our franchises that we love and are invested in, are back and ready for us to celebrate.
The players think they ARE the game. This delusional perspective is punishing all of us, forcing us to be without something we all love so deeply.
I'm at the point where I actually believe that the NHL needs to cancel not only the season, but shutdown the league as a whole. Start from scratch. Pay these players the average working salary of 50K a year, lower the prices of an average ticket so a man with a wife and three kids can take his family to a hockey game without having to take out a second mortgage on his house. Stop sharing revenue and profits with it's employees, pay them a wage and be done with it.
They aren't entitled to anything, and if they cannot realize this, then the NHL needs to rise from the ashes as something else, and the entitled millionaire whiner players of today, can become fast food workers, architects, bartenders or whatever else they have the skills to pull off, or they can continue playing the game they apparently love so dearly, at a fraction of what they could have, if they hadn't thrown it all away while being blinded by their blatant GREED.
Well, they won't ever see another penny out of me. I'll cheer for my team on the radio, or on TV, or online, but I'm done going to games and buying jerseys, keychains and videogames when I know that 50% of my hard-earned purchase is going into the pockets of this group of players.
Give me 20 years when these clowns have all retired, maybe I'll feel comfortable coming back.
Signed,
A lifelong hockey fan.
I don't understand why the NHL owners would even come back to the negotiating table at this point.
This was embarrassing.
There are dozens of debatable issues on the table, but the NHL gave three points that they made sure everyone understood they aren't willing to move on. They'll give and give and give, but on those three key points, they are NON-NEGOTIABLE.
The PA in return, of course tried to negotiate on those three points.
If I was an owner, I would be infuriated.
This is their business. They have every right to run their business the way they want to.
The NHLPA are employees, not the brand. The customers are loyal to the jersey, not the bodies wearing them. The league turns these individuals into stars and pays them millions. When a player is traded, he becomes an enemy we no longer cheer, and we pick right up where we left off, cheering on our teams on any given night.
When this all starts up again, we won't cheer every Saturday night because we're happy to have these players back on the ice, we'll cheer because our franchises that we love and are invested in, are back and ready for us to celebrate.
The players think they ARE the game. This delusional perspective is punishing all of us, forcing us to be without something we all love so deeply.
I'm at the point where I actually believe that the NHL needs to cancel not only the season, but shutdown the league as a whole. Start from scratch. Pay these players the average working salary of 50K a year, lower the prices of an average ticket so a man with a wife and three kids can take his family to a hockey game without having to take out a second mortgage on his house. Stop sharing revenue and profits with it's employees, pay them a wage and be done with it.
They aren't entitled to anything, and if they cannot realize this, then the NHL needs to rise from the ashes as something else, and the entitled millionaire whiner players of today, can become fast food workers, architects, bartenders or whatever else they have the skills to pull off, or they can continue playing the game they apparently love so dearly, at a fraction of what they could have, if they hadn't thrown it all away while being blinded by their blatant GREED.
Well, they won't ever see another penny out of me. I'll cheer for my team on the radio, or on TV, or online, but I'm done going to games and buying jerseys, keychains and videogames when I know that 50% of my hard-earned purchase is going into the pockets of this group of players.
Give me 20 years when these clowns have all retired, maybe I'll feel comfortable coming back.
Signed,
A lifelong hockey fan.
This is like saying "hate the cancer, not the cancer cells"
It is, if there is a minority of cancer cells that do the damage while the rest are benign. But I'm no doctor.
Yeah you're right.
There are (under study) "cancer stem cells", so presumably not ALL cells in a malign tumor are actually contributing to the cancer.
The other cells aren't "benign" though - Benign is a term reserved for benign tumors, which are by definition not cancerous, because Cancer is defined by being malign versions of tumors.
wsoxfan1214
Banned
Just wait til February. We'll be discussing Macbeth.
Go play Halo
Both sides are still negotiating.
The owners pulled their offer "off the table", but they haven't cancelled the season yet. Hence, there's a chance - albeit seemingly slim - that they will give the players a better offer still. If that happens, then it could be argued that the players/Fehr did the right thing this week by not accepting the owners' latest "final" offer.
Until the season is cancelled, everything can and should be considered part of this immature game that both sides consider negotiation.
The owners pulled their offer "off the table", but they haven't cancelled the season yet. Hence, there's a chance - albeit seemingly slim - that they will give the players a better offer still. If that happens, then it could be argued that the players/Fehr did the right thing this week by not accepting the owners' latest "final" offer.
Until the season is cancelled, everything can and should be considered part of this immature game that both sides consider negotiation.
If LeBrun thinks there's going to be a season, then I'm optimistic.
I gave up hope for a season about a month ago.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Nay sir, we do not utter the name lest misfortune becomes us. Lady M, or "M" will do.
Lebrun is like the champion of optimism. I'm not sure I believe it anymore, even from him.
I'm going with McGuire. Creep factor aside the dude knows his shit and is more balanced.
The NHL owners already got their revenue share increased by 7%, and the rest of the negotiations are just about how any more concessions they can extract from the players. They aren't giving shit.
They run a business, they have every right to determine what share of revenue they are willing to share with their employees. The fact that they are giving them any percentage at all, and the employee gets to say that it isn't enough, blows my mind.
It's not mind-blowing in the slightest that when a monopsony goes up against a monopoly the outcome is determined by bargaining. The owners have much more leverage so they are getting most of what they want, but they know without the players they have no sport and no business and so that's why they didn't offer a ridiculous figure like 20%.
Most of this article on the NBA lockout also applies to the current NHL lockout.
http://www.freakonomics.com/2011/11...-the-economic-battlefield-of-the-nba-lockout/
Most of this article on the NBA lockout also applies to the current NHL lockout.
http://www.freakonomics.com/2011/11...-the-economic-battlefield-of-the-nba-lockout/
SuperSonic1305
Member
It's my birthday NHL-GAF. I'm going to the Mandarin with family. *awaits flames for going to Mandarin*
Fuck the NHLPA
Fuck the NHLPA
Nice. Old Simpsons episodes were so good.
What a terrible birthday present that is.
KernelPanic
Member
AngmarsKing701
Member
NHL-GAF presents
With collaboration with the Shakespeare Company
And the NHL and NHLPA
MACDUBBEDINENGLISH.
starring
Dubbedinenglish as the titular character.
Co-starring Based Huberdeau
Freyjadour
Member
POSTCOITUS PICTURES FOR ALL #lockoutproblems
wow life looks really hard for these poor, poor NHL players.
Freyjadour
Member
@BrandonPrust8
@johnny__68 wow 40 grand good for u man.. Can u get me a job?
@johnny__68 wow 40 grand good for u man.. Can u get me a job?
KingHenrik30
Member
So glad this loser Prust isn't a Ranger anymore
Freyjadour
Member
Fehr speaking at 2:30 ET here:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/nhl-lockout-coverage/
Edit: Complaining about the Lockout, 3 lockouts in the last 20 years, etc. It's in the fucking past get a deal done you fuck.
Edit2: Rambling.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/nhl-lockout-coverage/
Edit: Complaining about the Lockout, 3 lockouts in the last 20 years, etc. It's in the fucking past get a deal done you fuck.
Edit2: Rambling.
gaming_noob
Member
I hope he keeps living large. Bankrupt before 40?
Speaking about Mandarin, they've redone their restaurants and menu. I've had it twice in the last 3 months and really enjoyed it.
Happy birthday!
Freyjadour
Member
I'm not really sure that the people you're talking to can afford to take a year or two off work like most of the players.
scissorfight
Banned
:bow
fap fap
yesterday afternoon:
a few hours later:
talk about perfect timing.
What's he done wrong here?
bonesmccoy
Banned
He's making a mockery of pool-side etiquette, for one.
Happy Birthday Supersonic!
Happy Birthday Supersonic!
SpectreFire
Member
SuperSonic1305
Member
How can we know for sure? Covered up, no clear shot of the face, in the middle of the desert. Could be Crosby for all we know.
#LockOutProblems
What is going on here? Gay lover?
SpectreFire
Member
It would seem that Matt Barnaby can play,
Taiwanese Next Media Animation are onto this now too !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP24tFBZufs&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP24tFBZufs&feature=player_embedded
Amazing
Finn lurker here! Not sure if posted : https://player.vimeo.com/video/55149830
and then they come back and the money flows again and the owners don't care. yay.