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If we're talking One Direction now, I find this one the most attractive.

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If you like Niall from 1D you should just come to Dublin, there are young guys like him everywhere here.

Well, you do have a way with selling things. I'm still not buying a Wii.

The ex is making his way through Golden now. Sounds like it's easier than the original and I'm not a big fan of a number of the changes (new VAs for Teddie and Chie). Plus, the heavy promotion of Marie rubbed me the wrong way. I'll be a hipster and stick with my artistically pure vision. (Also, that intro is absolutely horrid.)

But glad you're finally playing my GotY for whenever it came out!
I kind of feel like I already played Persona 4 on the PS2, because I used to watch my ex play it and help her with quiz questions etc. P4G is the best version though. I seriously notice very little difference between the VAs, and I haven't noticed it being easier (although I'm playing on hard). Yes the new intro sucks but you can skip it!

It's Persona you can play comfortably ANYWHERE. It's like gaming crack to me, hehe.
That treatment is ineffective, I'm afraid.
Thank you for the informative post. What was your area of study, if you don't mind me asking? :) What kind of neuroscience background?
You are most welcome, I've just read all kinds of issues with anti-depressants and their side effects and doctors don't always disclose that info. And as you can see from the replies to you, the side effects are not the same for everyone!

Oh and as for my background, I'm finishing up a PhD in neuropsychiatric genetics at the moment; so stuff like genetics, cell biology, pharmacology and neuroscience are where it's at for me. :P

If I'm not mistaken, these side effects are an oft cited reason for people going off their meds. Which, when you're treating something like depression or schizoid personality disorder (I think that's one, right?) it can be a bit of an issue.
Bang on the money there Bees. So like I said before, just be careful Necro if you decide to go the medication route. You can always ask to be put on a lower dose or a different drug if there are any undesirable side effects, and always stop taking something if you notice lack of sensation etc.

you can't double your wardrobe if you date a woman.
This was something I had never considered until I moved in with Ricky and it's pretty handy. It helps when your partner looks so good in your clothes and his clothes are so damn comfy. :3
 
Okay, so I'm closeted. One of my friends yesterday started half-jokingly questioning my sexuality in front of my other friends. It was in a joking way, but it really annoyed me. I don't enjoy lying about my sexuality, but I don't like feeling pressured into outing myself. It was a really uncomfortable moment for everyone in involved, and now they're asking about who my celebrity crushes are, etc. It all sounds like a huge test.

I honestly don't care if they know, but for some reason it's just so hard to say. :( I wish everyone could just know, and it wasn't a big deal.

That, to me, is societal progress. Long time ago, people were uncomfortable even talking about homosexuality and when they did it was usually in a negative context. People are getting more and more used to the idea of gayness and are abandoning the anachronistic totems of fear and bigotry. If you look at surveys, you'd see the single most-important factor in level of homophobia for an individual is whether or not that person knows one of us. Its easy to hate and fear a nebulous them but not so much if its one of your friends or family. For that reason, I believe its important for gay people to come out whenever possible.

You say that you don't enjoy lying about your sexuality, so is it possible for you to stop? What do you think the reactions would be from your family? from your friends? Would there be any repercussions at all? If you don't care if they know, then you should just do it. Coming out will benefit society as a whole but will also likely be a huge relief to you. You won't have to hide anymore because a huge burden has been lifted for you.
 
I wish I could tell you. I'm not sure. It's just uncomfortable for me... well I'm sure it's uncomfortable for most. I have a hard time opening up to other people, and that just seems really personal. I have come out to a few of my friends, and my family, but I don't really know why.



We were watching a movie, and she was like "Do you think she's hot? Unless of course you're not into women." It doesn't sound bad or anything, but the room went dead silent and I had no idea what to say. The way she said it sounded like she was genuinely asking too. It was just so uncomfortable.

That's how I feel as well. I don't really talk about personal matters with other people, and so the idea of telling people something like that has always seemed weirdly private and even slightly self-absorbed considering there are personal issues that are significantly less private and important that I've never discussed.


To echo what Bel just wrote, do you think that you don't feel comfortable sharing this with friends you've known for 2 years (that's a decent amount of time btw) because you've been watching what you're saying around people?
I'm just asking because I think back on the time where I was semi-out and like you, I wasn't totally comfortable with opening up and sharing with people. However once I came out to every single person I knew (or close enough), it became a non-issue for me. I obviously don't go and share every single details of my life with people but me being gay is not something that I ever feel I can't share with people I'm interacting with. If anything, the few times where I felt I couldn't, I felt bad and upset. These were situations where I felt it was pretty obvious I wasn't a ladies man but then someone asks me if I like this type of girl, or if I have a girlfriend (and not in the way "i'm fishing to see if you're gay") and it feels really weird.

omg an asos model.

dream job.

Some of them are so cute I can't handle it.
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Also, that guy was on the last episode of Happy Endings and when he came on screen I audibly gasped (and the episode was HILARIOUS)

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You know, I'm glad it's been snowing recently since it means we might have a white christmas this year but it's just been so gloomy. All grey skies.
 
Urgh family can be so annoying and plain rude sometimes...

So I went out with my friend this past Friday to a gay club, she is in that facebook stage where she has to post everything and check-in everywhere, it's annoying but whatever. We spend the whole night and went to the beach to watch the sunrise afterwards, and she is taking pictures of everything again, in one of those we were hugging.

So what happens when she publishes it in facebook? My mom and my cousins start liking it like never before, commenting like "you look so happy together!", smilies everywhere... I almost felt a vein popping out in my head, I was so pissed I replied very clearly, "yes mom, we were at the GAY bar, had a great time"...

It is not the first time, they are all "accepting", and "tolerant", but at the slightest opportunity they do that passive aggressive homophobic shit (and I'm sure I'm not misunderstanding anything, the tone of the message is clear, basically, thank god you are with a woman). It's so freaking infuriating, I'll rather have a clear cut homophobic family, at least they would be honest about it.
 
My roommate who doesn't know I'm gay asked me if he should ask this guy (who is clearly a closeted homosexual) if he was gay during dinner. Me and my other roommate were just stunned. :P So we said we didn't think that would be a good idea.

I'm just curious, why haven't you told your roommate you're gay? Just seems like it would be an awkward situation.
 
Wow, was that the busiest night (day in the US) in this thread in recent months? Few hours later there are over 200 new posts.
And I see it's time for the twink vs bear war again :lol


Ok, they sing terribly and their dance routine is bad but damn... some of them are really yummy. :)

You both are very attractive guys. I honestly can't believe it's that hard for you two.

In my case it's totally my fault. A shy introvert who tend to avoid talking (I'm too obsessed with my stuttering :/) isn't really a boyfriend material. Plus I've been going through some really low self-esteemish period for some time. Right now I'm laden with work, but I promised myself that as soon as I'm done with my current projects, I will see a therapist.
 
My type is all over the place but I tend to ogle at muscular/fit fella with nice/sharp features on face/body/ass.

Wow, was that the busiest night (day in the US) in this thread in recent months? Few hours later there are over 200 new posts.
And I see it's time for the twink vs bear war again :lol.

Your gay/bi?! *swooons*
 
Yeah he was cute alright, but no-one can take Adam Pally on as the hottest guy on the show. Period.

Can we talk about the hilarious performance of Brad? (Damon Wayans Jr.). Or the nickname for Penny and Pete's couple? Or how Alex went from being boring and insignificant to actually funny?

Everyone should watch that show.
 
Can we talk about the hilarious performance of Brad? (Damon Wayans Jr.). Or the nickname for Penny and Pete's couple? Or how Alex went from being boring and insignificant to actually funny?

Everyone should watch that show.

Does Dave still suck? Most of the storyline he's in just aren't fun, and when they are it's not because of him...

Show's amazing though, I try to pimp it to most of my friends, but they usually never heard of it :( Is it true it's getting canceled? :(
 
You guys should really discuss in the official thread more, not because happy endings discussion isn't welcomed here it is very welcomed! But the more the thread gets bumped and the more active it is the more people will notice, even if it's just in Gaf.

Dave has improved in my eyes a lot, he's just so dumb that he and Alex make a hilarious couple of overloaded dumb-ness.
 
I meant in general not specifically today.

Oh, that. I had some life/health issues arise, unfortunately. Which has really screwed up how things were suppose to go. Best laid plans, right?

I kind of feel like I already played Persona 4 on the PS2, because I used to watch my ex play it and help her with quiz questions etc. P4G is the best version though. I seriously notice very little difference between the VAs, and I haven't noticed it being easier (although I'm playing on hard). Yes the new intro sucks but you can skip it!

It's Persona you can play comfortably ANYWHERE. It's like gaming crack to me, hehe.
You are most welcome, I've just read all kinds of issues with anti-depressants and their side effects and doctors don't always disclose that info. And as you can see from the replies to you, the side effects are not the same for everyone!

Man, I've been having so many conversations about Persona 4 recently. Where were you people when the original came out?! It's damn near impossible to debate the game anymore because it's been... damn, four years since the original came out?! Now I don't feel so bad for having such a foggy memory about everything.

Also, the intro is atrocious. But I'm not a big fan of a lot of the other additions either. Granted, I'm hearing about the additional content second hand so that may be part of the issue. The original is still the best one to me. :P

In my case it's totally my fault. A shy introvert who tend to avoid talking (I'm too obsessed with my stuttering :/) isn't really a boyfriend material. Plus I've been going through some really low self-esteemish period for some time. Right now I'm laden with work, but I promised myself that as soon as I'm done with my current projects, I will see a therapist.

You kidding, you sound like perfect boyfriend material to me. Not everyone is looking for the clubbing socialite. Course, you're on a video game forum so there's probably a higher concentration of shy introverts here than normal.

Your gay/bi?! *swooons*

I know. My ex was oggling him when he first started posting his pictures. *jealousy*

You guys should really discuss in the official thread more, not because happy endings discussion isn't welcomed here it is very welcomed! But the more the thread gets bumped and the more active it is the more people will notice, even if it's just in Gaf.

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one that doesn't like Happy Endings. It's too... much like modern Friends to me. I enjoyed it more when it first aired and at least was following some story-arc (the initial wedding dump) rather than the "slice of life" unrelated episode format.
 
So, it's completely off-topic, but I've been thinking a lot the past couple of days. My granddad passed away over the weekend, and it's made me just consider just how precious what he have is. I know things suck for some of us right now, but I just want to let you all know that you're loved and if you ever need anything don't hesitate to PM me.

I'll probably be away for a few days with it being finals week and traveling for the funeral. In the meantime, I wish you all well, and I hope you know each one of you is awesome.

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Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one that doesn't like Happy Endings. It's too... much like modern Friends to me. I enjoyed it more when it first aired and at least was following some story-arc (the initial wedding dump) rather than the "slice of life" unrelated episode format.

I started watching recently on the recommendation of a friend, and while there's parts of it I kind of enjoy its just really safe. I don't know if its just because Im still on the first season or if its just my sense of humour, but I don't find it super funny. I kind of like the characters though so I'll at least see this season through.

And hope you're feeling better, health-wise.

Sorry for your loss excel, thoughts are with you.
 
I started watching recently on the recommendation of a friend, and while there's parts of it I kind of enjoy its just really safe. I don't know if its just because Im still on the first season or if its just my sense of humour, but I don't find it super funny. I kind of like the characters though so I'll at least see this season through.

And hope you're feeling better, health-wise.

Sorry for your loss excel, thoughts are with you.

In my opinion the show is getting better throughout the 1st season. The 2nd season was awesome, and the third season is great so far.

I actually think that abandoning the story line and becoming more wacky has done this show wonders. But you know, seeing what BeesEight wrote, it's not to anyone's liking! :)
 
Thanks, guys. I'm feeling okay about it. He'd been ill and passed peacefully on his own terms. More it's just that I'm feel nostalgic and reflective. There are times I wish I weren't an atheist, and this is one of those times. At the same time, I think that my thinking that this is the only shot we get makes it all the more beautiful. :)
 
It's a tragedy of life that it takes death to recognize its value. Not that we always take people for granted, mind, but we realize just how important they were to us once they are no longer in our lives. I suppose individuals live on within our memories, within history, and within the actions that they played a part in causing or influencing. The law of conservation of mass could be kind of poetic in a sense, I suppose, in a "cycle of rebirth" sort of way.

You are most welcome, I've just read all kinds of issues with anti-depressants and their side effects and doctors don't always disclose that info. And as you can see from the replies to you, the side effects are not the same for everyone!

Oh and as for my background, I'm finishing up a PhD in neuropsychiatric genetics at the moment; so stuff like genetics, cell biology, pharmacology and neuroscience are where it's at for me. :P
Brain chemistry is tricky business, indeed. It would be nice to see the advent of a better understanding and treatment of mental illnesses and the like in the coming future.

That sounds like an oddly specialized discipline...and I like it. o_o Sounds like the main areas of science that I am interested in right now. Interesting, indeed... I have no clue what direction my graduate degree will take me, but I figure that genetics will be involved. How did you decide on that specific program?
 
Is anyone freaked out by that curve on a mans hips? They protrude out in a way that looks like they have a broken bone in their hip. The pic posted above has it slightly but some guys have it much more apparent.

Unusual that someone fitness-conscious like yourself doesn't like obliques! They're yummy.

You both are very attractive guys. I honestly can't believe it's that hard for you two.

I'm similar to Mr Zombie. Also, younger guys don't seem to have any interest in a very short, not-especially-masculine middle aged guy.

River Viiperi <3

Heh, weird picture of him. He is quite gorgeous, though.

And since we were doing it, my type:

 
About 6 months ago I told a girl friend in college I was gay. She was cool with it, but told me something that kind of annoyed me. She said that she knows many people who just go gay because it's popular, she didn't believe people were really gay, but that they just do it because everyone else is doing it nowadays; like changing a pair of shoes. Also that they can just stop being gay whenever they want, like it was just so simple and easy to do. I don't know if it's true, but the idea ticked me off because to me being gay is a big deal and coming out to someone was something very hard to do, specially because I grew up in a very religious environment.
 
About 6 months ago I told a girl friend in college I was gay. She was cool with it, but told me something that kind of annoyed me. She said that she knows many people who just go gay because it's popular, she didn't believe people were really gay, but that they just do it because everyone else is doing it nowadays; like changing a pair of shoes. Also that they can just stop being gay whenever they want, like it was just so simple and easy to do. I don't know if it's true, but the idea ticked me off because to me being gay is a big deal and coming out to someone was something very hard to do, specially because I grew up in a very religious environment.

No need to get your jimmies rustled. She obviously hasn't been exposed to gay people before so take this opportunity to educate her. She admitted her ignorance and didn't dismiss you out of hand so take this opportunity to make a positive change and change some peceptions.
 
No need to get your jimmies rustled. She obviously hasn't been exposed to gay people before so take this opportunity to educate her. She admitted her ignorance and didn't dismiss you out of hand so take this opportunity to make a positive change and change some peceptions.

I just let it go. I told her that's not how I saw it and didn't make a big deal, but I was just thinking about it. I was curious to see if you guys think there are many men actually doing stuff like that. It just made no sense to me.
 
I just let it go. I told her that's not how I saw it and didn't make a big deal, but I was just thinking about it. I was curious to see if you guys think there are many men actually doing stuff like that. It just made no sense to me.

I seriously doubt it. A lot of men's rejection of homosexuality stems from its perceived detraction from masculinity. Their status as a sexual being is seen as one of power and strength. No guy is going to consciously decide to be gay for thrills or attention. We've been conditioned from childhood with these gender roles in mind and often subconsciously.
 
That's the same guy posted above!

I had to go back to make sure and I am positive that it's not! They are both cute so let just revel in the fact that guys like this bless this Earth.

Unusual that someone fitness-conscious like yourself doesn't like obliques! They're yummy.



I'm similar to Mr Zombie. Also, younger guys don't seem to have any interest in a very short, not-especially-masculine middle aged guy.



Heh, weird picture of him. He is quite gorgeous, though.

See, I can tell he's cute and with a couple of years on him he would most likely make me wet my pants. However on that picture and the previous one, his face looks too young. It's weird because I have no qualms about most of the One Direction guy and I do think that Louis is cute, but that model looks too young. Like his face doesn't go with his amazing body.

And since we were doing it, my type:

I like them all, except maybe the first one. Good taste.
That tank top and the chest hair, HMPF. I actually have the same kinda look going in the summer and sometime I turn myself on. Haha
 
I'm similar to Mr Zombie. Also, younger guys don't seem to have any interest in a very short, not-especially-masculine middle aged guy.

oh christ cosmic, your 30s is not being middle age! if anything they are the new 20s.

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one that doesn't like Happy Endings. It's too... much like modern Friends to me. I enjoyed it more when it first aired and at least was following some story-arc (the initial wedding dump) rather than the "slice of life" unrelated episode format.

I'll be honest, the only reason I started watching was because it had a gay character, although he was really off putting at first, there was a much better way to make a non sterotypical flamboyant gay guy, and I'm glad they did! the show grew on me, but I'll be honest again, they remove Max and I'll probably stop watching.

Reminded me of this interesting quote from the documentary the celluloid closet, we are so starved for images of ourselves that anything, even if little, catches our attention.
 
I'll be honest, the only reason I started watching was because it had a gay character, although he was really off putting at first, there was a much better way to make a non sterotypical flamboyant gay guy, and I'm glad they did! the show grew on me, but I'll be honest again, they remove Max and I'll probably stop watching.

Reminded me of this interesting quote from the documentary the celluloid closet, we are so starved for images of ourselves that anything, even if little, catches our attention.

That's the only reason I checked it out, too. :P

I don't know how I feel about his character. On the one hand, the initial presentation was pretty non-stereotypical. As the season went on he became a little more of a caricature though. Ultimately, though, there's more to the show than a gay character and it was the rest that I couldn't really stand.

Interesting documentary and quote though!
 
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