hemtae
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I still think Tauros should evolve into Bouffalant
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I still think Tauros should evolve into Bouffalant
One is a bull and the other is a buffalo. They don't go together.
read above.
evolves into
bull into buffalo is tame in comparison.
Also Joltik goes from tick to tarantula.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
It does if you check out its origin :3
Again, Farfetch'd parable: Farfetch'd appears only once in RBY. Tradeable for dirt-common Spearow. It's "farfetched" to come across it. But then you use it and realize how shitty it is that Spearow is much better. It is too good to be true - it is a "farfetched" idea and you are a sucker for trading in Spearow with the assumption that Farfetch'd would be a better thing.
This.
read above.
evolves into
bull into buffalo is tame in comparison.
Also Joltik goes from tick to tarantula.
Already explained.
Thematically they make sense - gun to cannon. Tauros and Bouffalant (as well as Luvdisc and Alomomola) is just going for "they look the same" aspect.
Also Joltik, despite its name, is based on a jumping spider.
facetiousness aside there's an at least logical explanation why that shouldn't happen - mostly pokedex entries and lore in-game.
double entendre pokemon are fine, because it is interesting or humorous, but things like obvious evolution choices introduced as stand alone primary evo's looks lazy or forceful as to not include previous gen pokemon into a game set around having ALL NEW pokemanz.
and why is that a bad argument?
Deadpandas
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Farfetch needs to evolve into a platypus with katanas
Diprosalic
Banned
i want evolutions for all eight remaining original non legendaries.
You're not.
Hmm, actually, if you justify the evolution in terms of its weapon (much like Remoraid to Octillery being like gun to cannon), I think they can overcome the whole "uselessness" schtick.
EDIT: Oh shit, you guys just ruined Sharpedo and Garchomp for me. This is like Venonat -> Butterfree all over again.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
There are a bunch of solo evos like Skarmory and such that still work without evos.
And again, people pointing out the discus and the bull evolving into a mola-mola and a buffalo are the ones forcing it in the first place.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
It leads to... weird thinking.
Remember back then people thought Shellos was a Lapras pre-evo.
Well both are sharks
Because, as much as certain people try to deny it, Pokemon share a lot of similar themes. Pokemon look like Pokemon.
Skarmory is fine. Pokemon that don't evolve are fine.
It just looks like obvious back room development politics drove the idea down.
"Sorry Steve, Big Boss said this game's National dex has to be all new pokemon. We can make your luvdisc and tauros evolutions stand-alone though, that cool."
"Yeah, w/e Bob. At least I know what they were really drawn up for..."
'Forcing'? I genuinely thought they were new evolved forms until a bit earlier in this thread.
So why do Tauros and Luvdisc have to evolve just because there are Pokemon that look similar?
A lot of animals in nature look similar. Pokemon look similar.
Maybe if I was arguing pidgey should evolve into spearow.
At this point it is agree to disagree. I'm not trying to change your mind, but only present my case, as I see it.
Oh, sorry...
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
But
That.
Sounds more like you're conspiring
Alomomola I can agree (I also thought it was a Luvdisc evo) but I didn't get that feel from Tauros.
Black-Wind
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Sure, that totally makes sense ... if not for the double helix in the logos for titles named after the most well known set of chromosomes.
Y is very easy to see "flying creature" in.
And no, I actually do see "Fancy, mystical stag" when I look at Xerneas. When I look at Yveltal ... I see a Dragon. And I think that if they wanted to make something based on a eagle they would just make a cool looking eagle and not a Wyvern. Nether one is "clearly from norse mythology" as there are other possible mystical Stags Xerneas can be and between the 2 Xerneas is the only real link here.
Well I could never figure out why Tauros suddenly sprang an afro...
ColtraineGF
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I think that's probably true by the fact that Hitmontop was one of the GS Pokemon that were originally in RGB but were cut out of the game.
Don't you think it's a little curious that Xerneas is not only a stag, but a stag with four types of gemstones in its antlers, one for each of the color gemstones the Yggdrasil stags had (red, blue, purple and yellow)? And don't you think it's a little curious that here we have a mythological stag Pokemon paired with a mythological bird Pokemon... Which myths pair a stag and a bird? Only Norse mythology. There's a connection. It's the eagle. Very stylized and more monstrous, naturally, though it still has the head and collar of an eagle. That doesn't mean it can't be part-Dragon, or borrowing cues from European wyverns. But I think the details in Xerneas make the Yggdrasil connection explicit, and its pairing with a bird monster seals the deal when it comes to what they're supposed to be. All of this, IN ADDITION to the fact the XYZ axes play specific roles in the Yggdrasil myth.
Deadpandas
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Farfetch'd is wandering around town, wondering why it's so useless. He walks past a weapons shop and decides to go in and take a look. The owner is out back, so Farfetch'd takes 2 katanas and makes his leave.
But just as hes leaving, the shop owner comes through and spots him. The owner chaces him throughout town, so in a desperate attempt to escape Farfetch'd dives into a river. He turns into a platypus and the katanas fuse with his wings.
Probably should have bundled it.
When I bought my wii u, I decided to sell my old wii and 3ds. I threw in paper mario and pilotwings (which I got for free with my xl) and got $300.
I agree with anyone who supported evolving pokemon who don't have evolutions to make them somehow relevant in battling and do some justice to their design.
The pokemon that should definitely get an evolution are:
Pinsir (top priority, this is a historic injustice)
Farfetch'd
Jynx
Mr. Mime
Kanghaskan
Tauros (the afrobull not being an evolution is ridiculous)
Corsolla
Mantine
Delibird
Dunsparce
Sudowoodo
Unown (different evolutions depending on the word you create with several of them, the only way to use them in a cool way)
Girafarig
Quilfish
Shuckle
Miltank (maybe should fuse with Tauros/Afrobull to create Megacow and Megabull and lay it all to rest)
Mawile
Sableye
Plusle and Minun (fuse them when evolving)
Zangoose
Seviper
Absol (more like Absolutely should get an evo)
Lunatone and Solrock (fuse them into Eclipstone)
Tropius
Kecleon
I've only listed those in gens I to III because those are the ones I remember.
Another category I have is "Pokemon that don't really need an evo but then again so didn't Chancey or Porygon2 or Rhydon so why the hell not:"
Lapras
Heracross
Skarmory (should spice up defensive play, see my avatar for reference)
Maybe Snorlax? I hate that he isn't as useful as he was in the past
The pokemon that should definitely get an evolution are:
Pinsir (top priority, this is a historic injustice)
Farfetch'd
Jynx
Mr. Mime
Kanghaskan
Tauros (the afrobull not being an evolution is ridiculous)
Corsolla
Mantine
Delibird
Dunsparce
Sudowoodo
Unown (different evolutions depending on the word you create with several of them, the only way to use them in a cool way)
Girafarig
Quilfish
Shuckle
Miltank (maybe should fuse with Tauros/Afrobull to create Megacow and Megabull and lay it all to rest)
Mawile
Sableye
Plusle and Minun (fuse them when evolving)
Zangoose
Seviper
Absol (more like Absolutely should get an evo)
Lunatone and Solrock (fuse them into Eclipstone)
Tropius
Kecleon
I've only listed those in gens I to III because those are the ones I remember.
Another category I have is "Pokemon that don't really need an evo but then again so didn't Chancey or Porygon2 or Rhydon so why the hell not:"
Lapras
Heracross
Skarmory (should spice up defensive play, see my avatar for reference)
Maybe Snorlax? I hate that he isn't as useful as he was in the past
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Benjamin Froaklin
Confirmed for nickname. Day one.
I have to say the visuals on this game look fantastic and it looks like a really high quality game. Im glad that Game Freak never feels the need to rush a Pokemon game so it comes out early on with a system. I hope that not too much of the classic feel was lost between its transition from 2D to 3D, it does look mostly the same though. The one concerning thing to me was the battle animations in 3D. I understand that they wanted to change from 2D sprites but if the final version is close to the trailer than it looks like the battle system might have multiple camera changes (slowing things down). Hopefully this was just some dramatic effect done for the trailer.
Im super excited though, been a fan since Red/Blue came out. Game Freak continues to amaze me with each release. The monsters in Black/White Version were incredibly well done in my opinion and was a return to form. This is my most anticipated 3DS release, Fire Emblem looks fantastic as well.
Im super excited though, been a fan since Red/Blue came out. Game Freak continues to amaze me with each release. The monsters in Black/White Version were incredibly well done in my opinion and was a return to form. This is my most anticipated 3DS release, Fire Emblem looks fantastic as well.
Tepig at the bottom
where he belongs
JordanN
Banned
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Eh, I'm not seeing the resemblance. Especially with the white cloud thing don't appear to be separate entities like how the hair and blouse tie appears on Benjamin.
I like the theory that he's some kind of cat burglar and he's wearing the sack around his neck.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
So Farfetch'd becomes a Skarmory?
Who's the best?
Chespin.
Furpile?
Just like Charmander. Agreed.
Dr.Palutena
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ok ,then how bought this being on the 3ds, first mainline attempt at 3d pokemon , the japanese titles being 3D-ied unlike any other pokemon logo, is that enough for people to see the "axes" reference along with the obvious chromosome reference and posit that there may be a Z-axis "depth" pokemon? At the end of the day It probably isn't either or .
The key word there was "straight from norse mythology", yes it's a stag, the extent by which the pulled (if they pulled at all) is obviously debatable and it could both be norse mythology inspired and inspired on other myths like wyvern.
My whole point was that they aren't necessarily drawing from any one source of inspiration.
Deadpandas
Member
Is Skarmory a platypus with katanas? Or an ugly metal chicken with fans?
Dr.Palutena
Member
Is it time for starter lists ? I think it's time.
Already done several dozen pages ago.
Mine:
Grass: Chespin > Bulbasaur > Turtwig > Snivy > Treecko > Bayleef
Fire: Charmander > Cyndaquil > Tepig > Torchic > Fennekin > Chimchar
Water: Totodile > Froakie > Squirtle > Oshawatt > Mudkip > Piplup
Top Tier
-Totodile
High Tier
-Froakie
-Squirtle
-Chespin
-Treecko
Mid Tier
-Bulbasaur
-Mudkip
-Tepig
-Charmander
-Torchic
Low Tier
-Oshawott
-Snivy
-Turtwig
-Cyndaquil
-Chikorita
-Piplup
Lowest Tier
-Fennekin
-Chimchar
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I'm pretty sure ugly chicken is already taken by Moltres.
Goes along with rainbow turkey Ho-oh.
Mmm...
Pokemon food.
This is pretty good.
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