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[Mononoke]

SLI is an abysmal upgrade path.

Why is that?

According to the specs, the Titan is 85% of the 690 which is basically GTX 680 in SLI. So someone that has a 680 SLI or 690 will get better performance than the Titan (unless it turns out the Titan is superior for other reasons).

I guess my point is, I imagine a lot of people will get the Titan to SLI them. Especially if you are gaming at a higher resolution, some of these games need SLI to perform at max. At least, that has been my experience. Going from a single 680 to SLI 680 has been a big performance bump - and even some of the most demanding games are pushing both cards to their limit to achieve it. So if someone is going to get a Titan at these higher resolutions, I can't imagine they are going to get the best performance possible with just one.

 

[catabarez]

Why is that?

According to the specs, the Titan is 85% of the 690 which is basically GTX 680 in SLI. So someone that has a 680 SLI or 690 will get better performance than the Titan (unless it turns out the Titan is superior for other reasons).

I guess my point is, I imagine a lot of people will get the Titan to SLI them. Especially if you are gaming at a higher resolution, some of these games need SLI to perform at max.

There are two many problems associated with SLI for me to justify it. This I would get though and it has 6 gigs of RAM unlike the 690.

 

[Mononoke]

There are two many problems associated with SLI for me to justify it. This I would get though and it has 6 gigs of RAM unlike the 690.

Oh yeah, the Titan's 6gb of memory is an awesome cushion, especially if you are heavily modding your game and down sampling. Also if you are using multiple monitors. I guess what I meant to say is - IMO the only way you can get the best performance right now, is through SLI. Titan is not going to beat out 680's in SLI (if what the specs are saying is true).

So outside of new games having issues with the SLI profile (which is what I assume you guys are talking about) - I don't see why SLI is a terrible path to take. If you are trying to get the best performance, you kind of need it (unless you are doing 1080p resolution). Titan's in SLI will be hard to beat though.

EDIT: Also, the issues with microstutteing isn't as prevalent as it once was.

 

[metareferential]

Oh yeah, the Titan's 6gb of memory is an awesome cushion, especially if you are heavily modding your game and down sampling. Also if you are using multiple monitors. I guess what I meant to say is - IMO the only way you can get the best performance right now, is through SLI. Titan is not going to beat out 680's in SLI (if what the specs are saying is true).

So outside of new games having issues with the SLI profile (which is what I assume you guys are talking about) - I don't see why SLI is a terrible path to take. If you are trying to get the best performance, you kind of need it (unless you are doing 1080p resolution). Titan's in SLI will be hard to beat though.

The point is, given the difficulties tied to SLI, more often than not a single Titan will effectively be outperforming a gtx690 or a 680SLI, even if raw numbers will always say otherwise.

I've lost count of the posts in new games' thread with people complaining that their SLI setup doesn't work as it should (meaning it's only using one ore little more than one gpu).

Simply because a single gpu is much easier to exploit.

 

[Mononoke]

The point is, given the difficulties tied to SLI, more often than not Titan will effectively be outperforming a gtx690 or a 680SLI, even if raw numbers will always say otherwise.

I've lost count of the posts in new games' thread with people complaining that their SLI setup doesn't work as it should (meaning it's only using one ore little more than one gpu).

Simply because a single gpu is much easier to exploit.

Alright, fair enough.

Can't really argue with this. I guess I'm biased, since I already have a 680 SLI set up. So for me, it's basically - get Titan SLI, or just keep what I have now (since it's technically better). Although if it comes out that the Titan is better than 680 SLI (for the reasons you stated), maybe I'll just switch back to single GPU. *shrugs*

 

[Cassius]

Here is a write up on multi-GPU setups and their issues.

http://techreport.com/review/21516/inside-the-second-a-new-look-at-game-benchmarking/11

 

[Mononoke]

Here is a write up on multi-GPU setups and their issues.

http://techreport.com/review/21516/inside-the-second-a-new-look-at-game-benchmarking/11

Thanks for linking. I'm aware of the issues, I guess my experience is a bit skewed since I only recently got my SLI, and literally almost every game out has their SLI profiles fixed. So I haven't ran into any of these issues.

But I imagine, I might have pains once new releases drop.

 

[Shambles]

No Windows? Someone just outed himself as a pirate.

Nice. Call someone a pirate and just run away. Keep classy.

 

[mkenyon]

I've been checking EVGA's website at least 5 times a day now to nab up 2 of these.

I'll gmail/PM you when I found out what website is getting them and when.

 

[Mononoke]

Probably posted already. But the asus model showed up on a second site and the listing shows the 6 GB GDDR5 memory running across a 512-bit interface and a base clock of 915/ boost clock of 1019 / 6008 MHz. I'm pretty sure you guys knew that. But new listing shows the price at $1599. Is it common for products to take on a holding price until its officially announced?

http://www.austin.net.au/catalog/pr...sus-gtx-titan-pci-e-30-6gb-512-bit-ddr5-base/

Edit: not saying the specs are accurate, just what that site posted.

 

[Sethos]

Probably posted already. But the asus model showed up on a second site and the listing shows the 6 GB GDDR5 memory running across a 512-bit interface and a base clock of 915/ boost clock of 1019 / 6008 MHz. I'm pretty sure you guys knew that. But new listing shows the price at $1599. Is it common for products to take on a holding price until its officially announced?

http://www.austin.net.au/catalog/pr...sus-gtx-titan-pci-e-30-6gb-512-bit-ddr5-base/

Edit: not saying the specs are accurate, just what that site posted.

"fan"

Holy shit, this thing has a fan? My mind is blown.

 

[Hazaro]

In reality it should be a 1 lane PCI-E card with a 2 lane PCI-E AIO water cooling block and pump.

Is nVidia even trying?

 

[mkenyon]

As in, gets power from the PCI E slot?

 

[DarkoMaledictus]

Still won't be enough against Durango's secret sauce.

I know u r sarcastic but u r probably right... pc ports are so not optimize u will probably need 4 times the power just to get the game running .

 

[Angelus Errare]

I know u r sarcastic but u r probably right... pc ports are so not optimize u will probably need 4 times the power just to get the game running .

 

[Darkrider]

I've got an SLI setup (2xAMD 5870) and compatibility leaves a lot to be desired. When it does work it's great.. I just wish that it would work more than 10% of the time. Typically, if it's stable, there are visual artifacts or flickering associated with SLI and this is trying to get the best result using Radeon Pro and MSI afterburner. No, I'll never go SLI again - a single powerful card is a much better option. Less heat, comparable or less cost and significantly less compatibility problems.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Holy shit 6GB VRAM?

:O

I might consider this sometime later in the year depending on the price. Is there any official word on how much it will cost?

 

[NeOak]

I've got an SLI setup (2xAMD 5870) and compatibility leaves a lot to be desired. When it does work it's great.. I just wish that it would work more than 10% of the time. Typically, if it's stable, there are visual artifacts or flickering associated with SLI and this is trying to get the best result using Radeon Pro and MSI afterburner. No, I'll never go SLI again - a single powerful card is a much better option. Less heat, comparable or less cost and significantly less compatibility problems.

That's Crossfire

Holy shit 6GB VRAM?

:O

I might consider this sometime later in the year depending on the price. Is there any official word on how much it will cost?

Do you ever read the OP?

 

[Grief.exe]

Holy shit 6GB VRAM?

:O

I might consider this sometime later in the year depending on the price. Is there any official word on how much it will cost?

Getting ready for those inevitable 4k resolution jump.

I've got an SLI setup (2xAMD 5870) and compatibility leaves a lot to be desired. When it does work it's great.. I just wish that it would work more than 10% of the time. Typically, if it's stable, there are visual artifacts or flickering associated with SLI and this is trying to get the best result using Radeon Pro and MSI afterburner. No, I'll never go SLI again - a single powerful card is a much better option. Less heat, comparable or less cost and significantly less compatibility problems.

If I remember right 5870 was some of the worst cards to xfire.

Xfire and SLI have come a long way since then. Is it perfect? No, but its significantly better than what you are experiencing.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Do you ever read the OP?

I saw "sources say" 900 RRP.

 

[Hazaro]

Holy shit 6GB VRAM?

:O

I might consider this sometime later in the year depending on the price. Is there any official word on how much it will cost?

Ban him!
*Damn your use of words meaning specific things.

 

[NeOak]

I saw "sources say" 900 RRP.

Unfortunately that's what is known.

 

[catabarez]

No word on an official date yet?

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Alright I've taken some deep breaths and I think I can resist splurging on this and do the smart thing and wait another year.

 

[Momentary]

I'll gmail/PM you when I found out what website is getting them and when.

Damn. I really hope they don't over price these damn things. $1600 is way too much. I hope ASUS and EVGA don't plan on getting ridiculous with their pricing. Really want to go with EVGA. I've had great experiences with their customer service.

 

[mkenyon]

Alright I've taken some deep breaths and I think I can resist splurging on this and do the smart thing and wait another year.

If you are doing this to avoid significant other wrath, remember these sage words:

It is easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to receive permission.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

I'll gmail/PM you when I found out what website is getting them and when.

hey hey! send me one too, damn it!

 

[mkenyon]

Will do. If you get email faster than PMs, PM me your email addy.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

If you are doing this to avoid significant other wrath, remember these sage words:

It is easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to receive permission.

Words of wisdom. The real reason is that it's completely unnecessary, my 560ti will be fine until the 700 range comes out and then I can buy the 780/AMD equivalent for substantially less (while still having more than enough grunt to pants the Orbis/Durango ports that I'll be throwing at it). If I needed to I could even hold off until the 800 series came out, although that might be cutting it a bit close given the generational transition that we're going through.

 

[mkenyon]

Words of wisdom. The real reason is that it's completely unnecessary, my 560ti will be fine until the 700 range comes out and then I can buy the 780/AMD equivalent for substantially less (while still having more than enough grunt to pants the Orbis/Durango ports that I'll be throwing at it). If I needed to I could even hold off until the 800 series came out, although that might be cutting it a bit close given the generational transition that we're going through.

I know these words, when put together, should form a cogent thought. I just can't seem to make sense of it though.

 

[Alo81]

What's a good used price to sell a GTX 680 2gb?

You know what, fine. Since we're such great pals, I'll take if off your hands for free.

(If you want a serious offer, I'm actually interested so feel free to quote a price)

 

[Momentary]

I'm definitely asking for forgiveness from my significant other when I make this purchase. She still thinks I'm only spending $4000.00

 

[mkenyon]

I'm definitely asking for forgiveness from my significant other when I make this purchase. She still thinks I'm only spending $4000.00

You could always scrap the water portion. Put them in a Define XL R2 and they'll be quiet as a mouse. Maybe a big mouse. With a sinus infection.

 

[Mononoke]

If this is over $1,000 - I'm out.

I'm not that hardcore. Not hardcore enough for yall.

 

[mkenyon]

It won't be.

They will have to price it under the 690. Definitely under the 7990. The MARS 2 eats this for breakfast.

 

[Alo81]

If this is over $1,000 - I'm out.

I'm not that hardcore. Not hardcore enough for yall.

It won't be.

They will have to price it under the 690. Definitely under the 7990. The MARS 2 eats this for breakfast.

The price is $900, it's already been announced.

 

[Mononoke]

The price is $900, it's already been announced.

Ah okay was just confused by those recent listings. Must be temp/holding prices since they aren't officially for sale yet.

 

[-SD-]

The price is $900, it's already been announced.

It's really not. Don't see anything from NVIDIA.

 

[Alo81]

It's really not. Don't see anything from NVIDIA.

The OP of the thread.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

The OP of the thread.

Does not contain any official sources. I.e. there has been no announcement about that yet.

It might be correct, but it's not official.

 

[Sethos]

Should I shoot Proshop an email and ask them about their ASUS Titan listing, maybe I could squeeze out some information as a potential customer? ( Spent like $20,000+ on their site, maybe they will treat me like royalty )

 

[mkenyon]

Does not contain any official sources. I.e. there has been no announcement about that yet.

It might be correct, but it's not official.

Yep yep.

NVIDIA only does hard launches for graphics cards. That is, the product doesn't officially exist until launch day. Launch day is only figured out by leaks or press telling friends when the embargo is up.

 

[Mononoke]

Yep yep.

NVIDIA only does hard launches for graphics cards. That is, the product doesn't officially exist until launch day. Launch day is only figured out by leaks or press telling friends when the embargo is up.

Well, that's fun.

So does that mean we won't really get any concrete information about performance, until after launch?

 

[mkenyon]

I'd bet $50 the price will be $899.

But yeah, no word on performance until the embargo is up. By the time those are read, the initial batch will already be sold out too. It's a pretty gross system they have.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Will do. If you get email faster than PMs, PM me your email addy.

PM will be fastest for me unless you feel like shooting a text message.

 

[Momentary]

ASUS GTX TITAN - FEBRUARY 18th release date.
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/b1417/ASUS_GTX_Titan.html

Really don't want to go with ASUS for my TITAN, but looks like I will if I have to. Damn... I can't hate them that much. I just realized I have an ASUS laptop, ASUS monitor, ASUS motherboard

 

[DieH@rd]

ASUS GTX TITAN
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/b1417/ASUS_GTX_Titan.html

Why did I think it had way more FP preformance? Weird.

 

[Momentary]

Well 6 more days. I got 1800 greenbacks ready to jump out of my wallet for this.

 

[artist]

ASUS GTX TITAN - FEBRUARY 18th release date.
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/b1417/ASUS_GTX_Titan.html

Really don't want to go with ASUS for my TITAN, but looks like I will if I have to. Damn... I can't hate them that much. I just realized I have an ASUS laptop, ASUS monitor, ASUS motherboard

GEFORCE MAXWELL - MARCH 2014 Release date

OMGWTFBBQ.

 

[Momentary]

I think that's old data. Everything got pushed back from what I heard.