Pachter/EEDAR predict NA Wii U sales came in between 110,000 and 125,000 in January

Futureman

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One of those is me!

Bought mine about 3 weeks ago and still obsessed with NSMB U and Nintendo Land.

Gonna pick up some Wii games next (DKCR, Zelda TP, Punchout). After I beat those Nintendo should be on a roll starting with Pikmin 3.
 

deviljho

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Help is on the way!

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DaBoss

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I was just wondering why MS stopped releasing sales milestones, if the success had continued at such a rapid pace or did sales completely fall off a cliff last year.
It 'was' a hit; but its sale decreased exponentially, apparently by the gap between milestones

Yea you guys are right, it slowed down heavily: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-11-05-xbox-360-the-only-console-to-defy-gravity-says-microsoft

20 million by Nov 2012.
 

olimpia84

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Not bad considering there's absolutely nothing out there in terms of software. With Rayman not being released this month those numbers will probably drop even lower.
 

Petrae

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Geez. Such a drop for Wii U versus Wii in the same period, if these projections verify.

I really don't know how the Wii U can be spun to be "not so bad". It's bad. Not debilitating kind of bad, but certainly troubling. When does this trend turn? E3? Not so fast if Durango and/or Orbis bring the heat. The holidays? Lots of competition there, with the hope that lower price and exclusive first-party games can overcome MS & Sony.

I don't know that Wii U fortunes turn around at all, honestly. Engaging in list wars and citing "panic mode Nintendo" won't help the current trend. As long as 3DS fares better this year-- and it should-- the sting from this prolonged stumble from the starting gate may be less painful.

For now, NPD is likely status quo. X360 will lead and nobody will catch it.
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
No, most of us were expecting sub 100k.

Its unquestionably slow and very disappointing, but far from atrocious.

Its not selling PSP levels.

PSP was doing much better numbers in its 3rd month than the Wii U (IIRC somewhere around 300k) is so I'm not sure what you're getting at.
 
PSP was doing much better numbers in its 3rd month than the Wii U (IIRC somewhere around 300k) is so I'm not sure what you're getting at.

I'm assuming the comparison was meant to be the Vita? Even if I'm right, it's a rather bad comparison. I really don't understand the rationale behind asserting that the Vita now represents the gold standard of "bad performance," with anything that does better than it representing "not bad" performance.
 
Geez. Such a drop for Wii U versus Wii in the same period, if these projections verify.

I really don't know how the Wii U can be spun to be "not so bad". It's bad. Not debilitating kind of bad, but certainly troubling. When does this trend turn? E3? Not so fast if Durango and/or Orbis bring the heat. The holidays? Lots of competition there, with the hope that lower price and exclusive first-party games can overcome MS & Sony.

I don't know that Wii U fortunes turn around at all, honestly. Engaging in list wars and citing "panic mode Nintendo" won't help the current trend. As long as 3DS fares better this year-- and it should-- the sting from this prolonged stumble from the starting gate may be less painful.

For now, NPD is likely status quo. X360 will lead and nobody will catch it.

I could see the 3DS taking over if Nintendo is aggressive. This is assuming the 360 continues to show YoY declines especially once Durango is officially announced.
I would bet on Wii U at 58k.

Extremely doubtful but I wouldn't rule sub 100k in general out.
 

Striek

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Impossibly low for a 5-week January. Historically low for a new any system, except you know the Vita and all.

People expected less than 110k? Thats and below are reserved for really old/dying systems/GC. Or Vita and Wii U, apparently.


January 07:
Wii 435k
X360 295k
PS3 245k
 

Petrae

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I could see the 3DS taking over if Nintendo is aggressive. This is assuming the 360 continues to show YoY declines especially once Durango is officially announced.

That is very possible. Once Durango is official to the outside world (because we know it's coming already), there may be impetus to change near-term spending to the more relevant platform. 3DS does look to have a stronger year in terms of software releases this year, too.

Short term, I think 360 stays as king of the hill. Mid-to-long range, 3DS comes into play.
 

AniHawk

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sub-150k would be terrible in north america. that's less than 30k a week. at 110k, it'd barely be over 20k a week.

it'll be under 80k in february for sure. who knows how much lower in even slower months like april or august.
 
Actually that's what they need. More casual users to boost their sales. They are selling entirely on the base fans at this very moment.
Not all of them. My first console was an N64 and I've owned just about every Nintendo console/handheld since then until my streak broke with Wii U and 3DS. I got a few more friends who used to crowd around for good old smash and GC classics who are feeling a bit burned out on Nintendo like me.

Seems to me like they are just selling to the most hardcore Nintendo fans. Not that folks like myself number in the millions. Dat anecdotal evidence...
 
Impossibly low for a 5-week January. Historically low for a new any system, except you know the Vita and all.

People expected less than 110k? Thats and below are reserved for really old/dying systems/GC. Or Vita and Wii U, apparently.
Or? But yeah. This whole, oh it's not too bad narrative is odd.
 
there really has to be a forum policy about the same poster spamming the same gif repeatedly. Its just annoying.

everything is selling sub 200k in that prediction and I can see wiiU doing 80k.
 

Petrae

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The system needs games. There's not even major compelling Nintendo titles on the system, a Nintendo system.

That's a major point of concern. It's great that the games are coming, but the clock is also ticking. Nintendo needed to be better-prepared, but they weren't for whatever reason.
 

jmizzal

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360 still had production problems, so there's not a great comparison.

360 (Jan 2006) 250,000
Wii (Jan 2007) 436,000
PS3 (Jan 2007) 244,000

Lowest months of first 3 years:
360 - 161,000 (first February), 155,000 (second May)
PS3 - 82,000 (first April), 82,000 (first May)
Wii - 259,000 (first March), 274,000 (second January)

PS3 and 360 low months are in April and May but, I expect WiiU to start picking up during those months, when Nintendo start releasing games and VC comes out and other 3rd party games.
 
This is a set up.

They're "aiming high", so when we get the actual figures and they're like 60k-80k, you guys will have a meltdown and the trolls will go 'loltendo' in an NPD thread that lasts 60+ pages.

You guys can't fall for this stuff.
 

Petrae

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PS3 and 360 low months are in April and May but, I expect WiiU to start picking up during those months, when Nintendo start releasing games and VC comes out and other 3rd party games.

April and May?

Injustice and Sniper Elite are the only two games with solid release dates in those two months. If anything, the hope would be that March would be better with LEGO City, Monster Hunter, and the belated port of Need for Speed.

Perhaps The Wonderful 101, Pikmin, and/or Wii Fit U arrive, but those dates aren't set in stone.

As for the Virtual Console, I'm not convinced that it's a selling point for a struggling platform.

Wii U has a tough near-to-mid term cycle ahead. It's competing against lack of software as compared to its prior-gen counterparts, its price is still perceived as high by consumers, and the knowledge that new consoles are coming makes for more of a "wait and see" approach or for consumers to stick with what they have.
 
110,000 - 125,000 would actually be really decent. I can't see any way for the system to reach those numbers with the current game selection. Was anything new of note even released in January?

Pachter overestimated December by quite a bit too IIRC.
 

Road

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"I love my Vita" and "It's doing better than the Vita" have got to be the most used sentences on GAF over the past few months.

Vita and 3DS were both under 100k in their 3rd (4 week) month, so I guess Wii U sales being over 100k in its 3rd (5 week) month is an improvement. Nintendo must be happy.
 

liger05

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"I love my Vita" and "It's doing better than the Vita" have got to be the most used sentences on GAF over the past few months.

Vita and 3DS were both under 100k in their 3rd (4 week) month, so I guess, Wii U sales being over 100k in its 3rd (5 week) month is an improvement. Nintendo must be happy.

Vita fans must be happy. The Wii u takes the heat of that system and deflects from how bad its doing.
 

UberTag

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This is a set up.

They're "aiming high", so when we get the actual figures and they're like 60k-80k, you guys will have a meltdown and the trolls will go 'loltendo' in an NPD thread that lasts 60+ pages.

You guys can't fall for this stuff.
We need to save this post for the top of the NPD thread on Thursday.
 
"I love my Vita" and "It's doing better than the Vita" have got to be the most used sentences on GAF over the past few months.

Vita and 3DS were both under 100k in their 3rd (4 week) month, so I guess Wii U sales being over 100k in its 3rd (5 week) month is an improvement. Nintendo must be happy.
Just eyeballing Nintendo's old earnings presentation, Vita looked about 16K weekly average and 3DS, 25K.

So Wii U sitting in the middle at 22-25K.
 

Petrae

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Vita fans must be happy. The Wii u takes the heat of that system and deflects from how bad its doing.

I'd say both platforms are in really poor situations. Vita has been struggling longer and doesn't have many future prospects. At least, with the Wii U, this "panic Nintendo" that everyone keeps talking about sounds like a trump card. Nintendo has a solid stable of identifiable first-party IPs to draw from, too. Sony? Well...
 
I'd say both platforms are in really poor situations. Vita has been struggling longer and doesn't have many future prospects. At least, with the Wii U, this "panic Nintendo" that everyone keeps talking about sounds like a trump card. Nintendo has a solid stable of identifiable first-party IPs to draw from, too. Sony? Well...
I'm sure Killzone launching in the same day as GTA5 will save the Vita
 

Calamari41

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Cut a commercial showing Mario, Sonic Racing, ZombiU, Assassin's Creed, Blops, Tekken, etc. Show the pad features in action on ZombiU. Show a kid playing Sonic, then their sister takes over the tv and he hits a button and starts playing on the pad. Show someone downloading a game and playing it immediately. All of this in one commercial. They should have been running it since October but it's not too late. There are solid games available for this system. Show people that they exist.
 

Skiesofwonder

Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Solid? In what dimension?

NintendoLand.

Seriously though, until we see how the other two next generation consoles perform, it is hard to really gauge how the WiiU is doing in the grand scheme of things. There is just so many more factors to consider now compared to when the last generation consoles launched 7-8 years ago. But I have a hard time understanding how anyone currently could consider these numbers (if accurate) above sub-par.
 

SmokyDave

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More than 43 units sold? More than the retail behemoth known as the Vita? More than the number of tentacles on an octopus?

Outstanding results. Someone create a GIF with dollars flying out of the gamepad screen.
 
It's really way too early to say that.

Well, let's just say it's extremely unlikely. The hardware sales would have to sell like crazy - Wii levels, of course. Can it happen? Sure - the DS sold poorly for a while, then skyrocketed when the Lite arrived. But there's not much reason to think that will happen. It's much more likely the hardware sales will limit NSMBU's sales potential.
 
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