Really?
No one is praying for a bad review. I'm happy it's doing awesomely, just in picking apart reviews/passages, we can attempt to analyze some of the major concerns that still seem valid.
This sentiment is so strange.
Tomb Raider Review Thread!
- Thread starter Tricky I Shadow
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Really?
No one is praying for a bad review. I'm happy it's doing awesomely, just in picking apart reviews/passages, we can attempt to analyze some of the major concerns that still seem valid.
This sentiment is so strange.
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
I've barely been following Tomb Raider but if I had to guess, some of the hate is from the atrocious pre release marketing the game has had.
KillerTravis
Banned
Those are some fucking good reviews. Maybe I'll check this game after all.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Tricky has a separate scale for hype which transcends numerical expression
Jim Sterling
Member
Multiplayer: I could be wrong, but I wouldn't say the difference is dramatic enough to suggest a different engine. That said, it's clearly a different sort of game, with a rewired control scheme and whatnot. Multiplayer is a bit rough and ready, but better than it has any right to be. I had fun with it, and felt the campaign was content-sufficient to not feel it exists at the main event's expense.
Setpieces: They typically cap off a major chapter. Significant events in the story are usually followed by some climactic escape or slalom down a rocky ravine or river. Personally, I found them a tremendous highlight of the experience, but if you're not into such large-scale sequences, you might find there's too much of it.
Sounds like it's very well executed for what it is.
A close analog might be Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, which has extremely refined production and is extremely well loved. But many people (including me) hate it for being a box-ticking, paint-by-numbers experience.
When I played AC:B, I shouldn't have expected an apple to be an orange. Can't expect TR to review bad just because it caters to an audience that does not include you. I also don't expect a Project Diva game or w/e to review with 6s because I don't care about J-pop.
A close analog might be Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, which has extremely refined production and is extremely well loved. But many people (including me) hate it for being a box-ticking, paint-by-numbers experience.
When I played AC:B, I shouldn't have expected an apple to be an orange. Can't expect TR to review bad just because it caters to an audience that does not include you. I also don't expect a Project Diva game or w/e to review with 6s because I don't care about J-pop.
ubersticky
Member
Patch that multiplayer and make it one of the best mps ever! Also make it free to play!
Should post some more gifs.
thanks for answering..!
Metalmurphy
Member
The series is about being more like Uncharted these days. That's just another pillar.
Reading some of these reviews and then looking at their scores continues to show how lop sided the scoring system it, but the scores are coming out how I expected, regardless of problems etc. that it would end up being around 8ish.
And also, jeez at some of those killing animations, holding a guy down and shot gunning him in the back of the head. We make fun of Uncharted for killing like a ton of people, but Drake has never brutally killed anyone the way Lara does so off hand; of all the things I expected from the game and the mockery behind her development and then going on to kill a bajillion bad guys, I didn't expect her some of these animations.
It isn't so much the violence as it is the character doing it, old Lara killed a lot of people, but not like this, lol.
Still, I am in no rush to pick this up sadly after reading the reviews, especially when you throw up half the achievements/trophies on some shitty MP mode that no one wanted, but I've stuck it on a list of things that friends/family can get me for my birthday if they want.
And also, jeez at some of those killing animations, holding a guy down and shot gunning him in the back of the head. We make fun of Uncharted for killing like a ton of people, but Drake has never brutally killed anyone the way Lara does so off hand; of all the things I expected from the game and the mockery behind her development and then going on to kill a bajillion bad guys, I didn't expect her some of these animations.
It isn't so much the violence as it is the character doing it, old Lara killed a lot of people, but not like this, lol.
Still, I am in no rush to pick this up sadly after reading the reviews, especially when you throw up half the achievements/trophies on some shitty MP mode that no one wanted, but I've stuck it on a list of things that friends/family can get me for my birthday if they want.
Don't encourage him.
The dissonance felt from Drake being a mass murderer is because he is portrayed by the game to be the happy-go-lucky, wise-cracking, and likable "every man".
The same parallels (seemingly, I haven't played the game yet) cannot be drawn to Tomb Raider. I don't see it.
sublimit
Banned
I love you.
The Grim Heaper
Member
Cool, I can rent this from Redbox and not think it's totally terrible.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Hub areas as you progress that let you fast travel to collect or explore more! More open then Uncharted by far. The sense of exploration is great and if you don't use your hunter sense, it will take you longer to find stuff.
Welp, screw redbox now. Looks like I'm going PC. Just need to wait for a good sale.
chickdigger802
Banned
Can I dress up Lara or is she always in that dirty tank top and pants?
Any different skins or outfits?
Any different skins or outfits?
Wow so that's 2 games that came out in less than 3 months of this year so far that game informer said is one of the greatest games ever (dead space 3).
GI is such a joke :lol They've transcended just giving every AAA game a 8.5 or higher. Now each one is the greatest game ever.
kunonabi
Member
why couldn't in game lara look like this? the whole game looks good visually except for lara's face.
Heart Attack
Member
1. I'm quite happy right now playing Tomb Raider Anniversary
. 2. Read my post, there are better looking games this generation. I didn't say this wasn't a good looking game. I've played the game as well at PAX and Comic-Con. So don't play the I've played the game and you haven't card.
Are you seriously incapable of understanding the idea of a "big picture"? I don't know how people saying things like this ended up this way... we all know that when Ebert scores a movie 4/4 (happens all the time), it's not perfect. When somebody gives a movie a "thumbs up" (happens all the time), their highest score, it's not perfect.
A game review is no different than any other medium. It's intended to help you understand whether you would like a product by describing and criticizing it. It's not "1 negative remark = 1 point off". Nothing is perfect, there will always be flaws, but there is range between slight missteps and life-threatening issues. Somehow this subtlety has been lost and there's only "amazing" and "shit".
It's like clockwork and it's one aspect of "gaming" that is really holding back the medium.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Dammit now I'm psyched for this. Are there any good pre-order deals for the 360 version?
grosvenor_92
Member
I'm surprised reviews were allowed to come out this early and after reading the eurogamer review I think I'll pick it up as a late bday present for myself.
They've always been like this, though.
I remember this was their style even back when I was in high school.
fixed.
grimshawish
Banned
This with decent gameplay is making me think of picking it up. In fact am pretty sure I will!
Hopefully it does well and the next game can just start Lara as Lara than the unlikable character the writers started to create. Glad the rest of the production ignored ot even if it makes the first 2 hours jarring.
Heart Attack
Member
Oh don't sorry, Tricky I Shadow is smart enough to look at the score and jump in joy.
Jake Tower
Banned
My take away from that video:
"When you're pushed, killing is as easy as breathing."
-Lara Croft
Monochrome loads about 6 times faster.
Bony Manifesto
Member
Man, people REALLY didn't want this game to be any good. It's DmC all over again...
Her in-game model makes her look somewhat Asian imo.
Except DmC isn't universally great either.
Schrödinger's cat
Banned
Glad to see it's turned out to be a great game.
Sad to see that some of the more 'tomb raider-y' bits have been shaken out.
I'm sure I'll enjoy it regardless.
2013 is a great gaming year so far!
Sad to see that some of the more 'tomb raider-y' bits have been shaken out.
I'm sure I'll enjoy it regardless.
2013 is a great gaming year so far!
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
So were all those threads and arguments worth it for you at this point?
I mean, how vindicated do you feel right now?
Poor guy is going to feel so empty and lost in two weeks. He's going to have a 48-hour orgasm next week when he blows through the game twice in a weekend binge, concurrently with an extra thousand posts in the OT over the next week, and then... it's all over.
Compressed-to-hell-and-back jpegs also load faster, but you don't see any professional website design use them.
You should have scrapped the ugly monochromatic gifs if loading was the argument for including them.
WrenchNinja
Member
Having no gifs would load even faster
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
This looks lovely. I want it.
Review scores are good! I was expecting good scores. I'm gonna read through these individually, but I'm still excited.
Is IGN's video review spoilery?
Diablo Rosso
Member
DmC got great scores but it isn't that great. It bombed too.
Which means I'll probably really end up enjoying it since I love "shitty" AAAAA games.
12-15 hours? Sheeeit. That means it'll last me 30.
Wuthering_Heights
Banned
Yeah, it always amazes me how angry some people get around here when a game turns out to be good.
You'd think that would make people happy.
It's kinda sad.
Yeah but I feel the bands here are starting to get distinct.
We still see titles in the 90's, so there's a larger portion of the scale being used here overall and just making a relatively safe sequel like Dead Space 3 or Crysis 3 really isn't cutting it anymore.
For example, what do you feel made DmC and Tomb Raider resonate with journalists that didn't work for Crysis 3, Dead Space 3, or Rising?