Maximilian Kolbe
Member
Yeah it's boring,hope MS will talk about everything we argue about(not just spec,also used games,online,non-gaming RAM usage,Kinect2 require or not etc) when they announce the console at April(E3 just too long to wait)
VGLeaks rumor: Durango CPU Overview
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phosphor112
Banned
Oh... so it's on the Latte... that's odd Lol.
ChosenPredator
Banned
I wonder if anyone from MS is reading this thread & if they are what they must be thinking lol
I never undermined the legitimacy of potentially great features. And you yourself are wring yourself as a fanboy. I think most posters here can tell when people are legitimately excited about something as opposed to using it troll.
Dreamgazer
Member
At this point, I really wish this thread can be closed/title changed.
It's really a cocktease to keep seeing this thread bumped and find there's absolutely nothing new in regards to leaks and rumors.
It's really a cocktease to keep seeing this thread bumped and find there's absolutely nothing new in regards to leaks and rumors.
phosphor112
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There goes Reiko's dream. =[
He was only giving all rumours an "equal chance".
phosphor112
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PS3 was rumored to double as a George Foreman Grill... we all know how that turned out. =[
That would also mean to believe that always online, and no used games is not true. He also said Edge's article was fake.
Yeah, it was 360 that actually turned into a room heater and towel dryer.
For the sake of MS I really hope the always online and used games parts remain unsubstantiated and in time untrue rumours.
phosphor112
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I'll assume you mean "writing" and nope, don't give a shit about any of these companies as far as fandom goes. It's just games. If we could have a one console future without that company being shitty to consumers because of lack of competition I'd be first in line. But personal attacks aside, it just seems weird to say "oh, the conversation will just switch to Kinect and features" because those may actually be impressive. Just seems like you're writing off a lot of people for no reason. And it's not a personal slam, I like you as a poster, especially after you chilled with all of the doom and gloom "I need confirmation that PS4 isn't weak" stuff. It didn't even seem like you anymore at that point.
edit: reading above, nevermind. Business as usual gents.
Well, what I did was to anticipate what topic of contention would the defence force pick. I am not writing off anyone. There will always be people who find a feature more useful or lucrative than another. Unless an individual is using that feature to stick it to someone else, it's all well and good.
Unlike you I do like the idea of multiple consoles because competition is always to consumers' benefit (but I think we are slowly headed to one generic console design future). Plus, as you previously mentioned, different consoles means different features where the competitors may actually compliment each other in certain ways preventing complete redundancy in owning the two consoles (besides the exclusives).
On a personal level, as an owner of 360, my gripe with MS comes from having to pay for Live and nothing else. If they drop that (or make it a PSN Plus like service) I am getting that console in its launch month.
There is still some hope for a 12 core Jaguar variant?
http://195.242.156.166/showpost.php?p=1713403&postcount=115
http://195.242.156.166/showpost.php?p=1713403&postcount=115
I love it. Keep it up guys.
But who's who? Is the Wii U Krammer?
ChosenPredator
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MS vs Sony someone should def Kaz/ballmer this lol
I'm really disappointed that we havent gotten some really awesome (DemonNite) or good (Sunhi) level GIFs for the Xbox event yet.
Syphon Filter
Member
what would a variant mean?
A Jaguar with 3 CUs, each CU having 4 cores.
Those are the super fans. Microsoft and Sony just sit back and laugh all the way to the bank.
I think PS4 will be always on, in a low power state like the Xbox 720. I remember reading Sony saying you could be at your office, purchase a game from the PS store online, and your PS4 at home would automatically begin downloading the game. That seems to imply always on to me.
Codeblew
Member
That is different from having to be plugged into the internet to play games at all which is the xboxnext rumor.
& also there is this even though it was removed by a mod for being off topic
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From that Mike R guy on Byond3D
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1714745&postcount=815
I wonder if he means that the Xbox Next will have 16 Cores?
Seems to be a false alarm.
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Thanks for posting this info, mate. The power consumption of the CPU seems very conservative. That said, any idea of the peak wattage and maximum sustained wattage during gameplay?
Angelus Errare
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Downclocks are COMPLETELY different from the hilarious notion of complete hardware change ass you tried to insinuate. 360 hardware in 2004 was the same as it was when it launched in 2005 minus the last minute increase in memory. So to rebuttal to your previous post, yes MS is "sitting" on the same hardware for a year because they're constantly tweaking that hardware. Theyre constantly trying to improve yields. So sure MS is pretty confident in it.
You know I'm expecting something to change. Downgrades or slight upgrades. It's really weird for MS to keep static specs for an entire year. So you know exactly what I mean.
I tested this recently actually. Full Windows 7 with:
- 12 IE10 tabs
- 6 Office windows
- Steam open
- Normal background services like antivirus, Dropbox, etc
Total RAM usage was just under 2GB
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
Maybe you guys can start your own, avatar-related thread?
Just a suggestion....not trying to provoke.....
Just a suggestion....not trying to provoke.....
Angelus Errare
Banned
No, I have no clue what you mean because in this thread, you've
-Held on to the belief of dual APU suddenly making an appearance
-Held on to the belief MS has switched to GDDR5
-Held on to the belief MS is using a more powerful GPU
-Held on to the belief that MS will increase the memory to 10/12/16GB based solely as a response to Sony.
-Actually reposted Proelite's obvious joke that Durango would have a dual GPU setup, one GPU by AMD the other by Nvidia.
So no Reiko, you of all people have to be specific because you've unfortunately shown you're unbelievably gullible and are incapable of separating wishful thinking from rumors that might have pings of truth to them.
He is giving all rumours equal chance. Rumours (which also include random wishful thinking).
gaming_noob
Member
This is getting a bit too personal now.
While Angelus Errare's conclusion is his own, I have to agree with the overview presented in the bullet point form. It is hard to agree or disagree with someone who constantly shifts his/her position by dragging in things that are less than rumours and presenting them as such because somewhere someone else did something with BF4 etc.
We all like to hope for things but this now feels like padding the pages with wishful ideas. Of course, this does not preclude the potential for a surprise from MS much like Sony.
Syphon Filter
Member
what do you mean?
I've been around this circle way too many times, on different boards, many console gens ago. The tech is different, but the passionate posts from some never changes.
And anyone that will go through the trouble of keeping track of everything that I say deserves to be commended. The new console gen is upon us fellow Gaffers. I welcome the craziness with open arms.
It depends on how much RAM you have available. Windows will use more RAM if you have a lot of RAM. Even with 16 GBs though Windows 7 only uses 1.5 GBs of RAM (without a bunch of programs and stuff running.)
statham
Member
I've been around this circle way too many times, on different boards, many console gens ago. The tech is different, but the passionate posts from some never changes.
You avoided the Question. What do you mean?
I've been around this circle way too many times, on different boards, many console gens ago. The tech is different, but the passionate posts from some never changes.
And anyone that will go through the trouble of keeping track of everything that I say deserves to be commended. The new console gen is upon us fellow Gaffers. I welcome the craziness with open arms.
Are you trying to sarcastically reduce his correct collated data on your stances to an obsession due to being imbued with the craziness brought on by new generation?
I know a bruised ego when I see one.
I've been around this circle way too many times, on different boards, many console gens ago. The tech is different, but the passionate posts from some never changes.
And anyone that will go through the trouble of keeping track of everything that I say deserves to be commended. The new console gen is upon us fellow Gaffers. I welcome the craziness with open arms.
So much irony in this post lmao.
Liabe Brave
Member
The difference is that Kinect 1 was an add-on from late in the system's life. It had its own RAM and processor so that, when plugged into a 360, it had as little impact as possible on the console's available power for games. If, as has been rumored, Kinect 2 is going to be included with every single Durango sold, it would make good sense to just incorporate the necessary extra RAM and processing power into the console.
Yeah my ego is really bruised. Are you guys being serious here?
Is there a punchline I'm missing?
I thought this thread was about the Durango CPU? Or is it now about the consistency of my posts on agreeing, disagreeing, or siding with Durango rumors?
There is no question. Angelus Errare is taking this way too seriously.
If I were you (as you can see the trail useless bickering so far), I would rather wait for the April reveal where MS would/should partially reveal OS features and we all can speculate using the verified information as a base.
MaulerX
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Where did you get that from? Kinect does not have it's own RAM (that I'm aware of) and it does not have a processor. It was taken out of the final design.
http://m.kotaku.com/5651658/kinects-missing-chip-was-never-needed-says-microsoft
Edit: Oops... My bad, it does have one. Lol
http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4210757/Teardown--Kinect-has-processor-after-all
statham
Member
I still believe. and with EA saying the consoles are 8-10x more powerful. the PS4 is 8 times.
I'm not getting what point you're trying to make, are you saying that Durango will have bad graphics? Because even if the specs turn out to be 100% accurate, it's still fairly significantly more powerful than the current 360.
If we go by what devs like Playground and 343i are doing with the old hardware we have now, i don't see "Durango" owners not being satisfied by how good the games look. But it seems to me like it's very important to certain people that the PS4 outclass the Durango graphically next gen. Very VERY important.
I mean you talk about the "psychology of majors/fans", and i have been watching how certain people have been clinging to the so called "leaks" as if they are gospel, and attack anyone who even suggests that maybe they should wait until things are official, the smugness, etc. I have to wonder how these people would react if the specs don't pan out as they thought they would. Would they then resort to "deflection"?