VGLeaks rumor: Durango CPU Overview

When one company reveals nothing about their new console, while the other one has... Grasping for straws at any possible hint is quite normal.
I'd like to think it could also pretty normal to wait (mostly) patiently for real news rather than jump on obvious bait. That's what I try to do. Working so far.
 
If that stuff is all confirmed. Yes.

But nothing new like the PS4 info blowout.

What info blow out , we knew most of the stuff about PS4 for months .
If the leaks are right there don't got much left to find out about 720 hardware wise , they still got services which can change .
 
If that stuff is all confirmed. Yes.

But nothing new like the PS4 info blowout.

Like I really want to know what the 3GB is reserved for.

Yes, one is officially announced and the other isn't. Other than that a lot is known. What you are asking for would not be part of a public announcement anyhow, you won't know it unless a dev leaks it.



Dev kits leaked?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-the-curious-case-of-the-durango-devkit-leak
 
What info blow out , we knew most of the stuff about PS4 for months .
If the leaks are right there don't got much left to find out about 720 hardware wise , they still got services which can change .


Something like this.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507910

Yes, one is officially announced and the other isn't. Other than that a lot is known. What you are asking for would not be part of a public announcement anyhow, you won't know it unless a dev leaks it.
Right..:(
 
What info blow out , we knew most of the stuff about PS4 for months .
If the leaks are right there don't got much left to find out about 720 hardware wise , they still got services which can change .

To be honest we still don't know much about the services offered by either manufacturer. That is a big deal, presumably saved for e3...
 
To be honest we still don't know much about the services offered by either manufacturer. That is a big deal, presumably saved for e3...

Yeah i know looking forward to it from both companies but i guess it much harder to get info on the software side of things .
Plus certain things can change of the software side rather easy for eg no used games .
 
Probably almost nothing of that is current any more.

MS is pulling an Apple.

The 2010 document is most likely obsolete now, but I don't see a reason why the leaked data about the specs shouldn't be true anymore. They won't give false information to devs. And if there were big changes, it would have have leaked from third party devs.
 
Other than tons of documents, specs and dev kits leaking?

Holy Smokes...talk about hyperbole.

Yeah, poor VGleaks is literally buried under a mountain of Nextbox documents. It may be months before they can dig themselves a tunnel to the surface. <friendly sarcasm>

And SuperDae's "Development Kit" appears to be Alpha or even pre-Alpha...and it certainly did not feature final hardware, in any way shape or form.
 
How is it hyperbole? VGleaks is far from the only one leaking stuff...

One may ask the question if these "multiple" leaks are not all commenting upon the same one or two old documents, as their ultimate sources for rumored Nextbox specifications.

And I qualified it as "hyperbole", because the original poster used the expression "tons of documents".

Putting aside the scenario (which I admit is possible, but not probable) that these leaked specifications accurately represent how the final Nextbox will be configured, upon release...IMHO, it amazes me just how tight the Microsoft ship has been, with regards to bonafide leaks.
 
Holy crap...talk about hyperbole.

Yeah, poor VGleaks is literally buried under a mountain of Nextbox documents. It may be months before they can dig themselves a tunnel to the surface. <sarcasm>

And SuperDae's "Development Kit" appears to be Alpha or even pre-Alpha...and it certainly did not feature final hardware, in any way shape or form.

Calm down, I don't ever recall so much info on an unreleased console. If the leaks hold up as well as the Orbis ones, then we literally know almost everything about the hardware. If that saddens you, then sorry.
 
That was disappointing, smh Tom.

People expecting big upgrades (believing nothing accurate has leaked) may be setting themselves up for disappointment. Best case scenario is to not raise expectations and be surprised (in a good way) if/when the specs get bumped.
 
Yeah i know looking forward to it from both companies but i guess it much harder to get info on the software side of things .
Plus certain things can change of the software side rather easy for eg no used games .

More importantly that that is what other services they offer. Do they offer game rentals? Do they offer convenient access to other media, like moves and music (something they could do a better job with relative to this year)? Day one releases digitally? Will they be priced the same, or more cheaply? Will all titles be digital as well? What about their indie focuc, or small games? What about more details on their web-enabled features, or streaming video, or their apps? What will their premium services provide, and what will be free? Will it enable any other functionality, like remote play, instant-on, smartphone integration, data mining the stores, new store setup, how will the cloud be incorporated, etc.

All this stuff put together matters MORE than the hardware specs, because it determines their ecosystem and direction.
 
The only reason why I think the specs will change is looking at the 360 launch. the E3 prior to launch where all the demos were running on Apple G5 development kits.
 
You could create a pretty awesome sliding timeline of VG's information. I've heard the Durango information is from:

2009
2010
2011
2012
2013
Some one should do this, seriously. The VGLeaks guys have responded in the past and we should be able to get some kind of answer on this as well.

The only reason why I think the specs will change is looking at the 360 launch. the E3 prior to launch where all the demos were running on Apple G5 development kits.
How does that indicate MS changing specs???
 
Calm down, I don't ever recall so much info on an unreleased console. If the leaks hold up as well as the Orbis ones, then we literally know almost everything about the hardware. If that saddens you, then sorry.

Sorry AgentP, didn't mean to come across as unfreindly and/or ornery. I actually edited my reply post...but too late, you already quoted me. Anyways, no offense was mean't, mate.

Cheers.
 
So the possibility of 16GB RAM for Durango is high? Other than that, the leaked specs were down right accurate to the last bit.

What would the point of 16GB of RAM be? Right now, there's a possibility that no major titles will even have loading screens.
 
One may ask the question if these "multiple" leaks are not all commenting upon the same one or two old documents, as their ultimate sources for rumored Nextbox specifications.

And I qualified it as "hyperbole", because the original poster used the expression "tons of documents".


I don't know when you started paying attention but Durango has had multiple leaks. Multiple. Which is why many around here were damn sure that the next Xbox was coming first because we were in the dark on PS4, mostly.

VGleaks has their means of getting leaks and they've been proven reliable and goes quite in depth on some aspects. I'd assume they have hands in documentation

DF has there own sources as they state, and around CES I'm pretty sure they were the first to sound the alarm of Durango leaks coming soon, and they came as predicted.

Then you have DAE, who DF was able to confirm when his story first broke, leaking devkit pictures a while back. Since they new year he's been feeding Kokatu, I'm assuming paid exclusive data. All up to the point where MS and EBay initiated a raid on his property.

Lets not forget the old 2010 document that surfaced or when the Crytek dev tweeted about the Durango meeting. Or sweetvar who has been pretty accurate. I'm sure I'm forgetting more.

Shits been going on for ages, only thing now is for MS to reveal.
 
Well I imagine that they'd be able to preload a lot of information from an HDD or a Blu-ray to such an ample pile of RAM. If streaming worked so well with some current gen titles, I can't think that loading all the time for new areas is a necessity.
Dont forget the DMEs and their JPEG decoding abilities!
 
You could create a pretty awesome sliding timeline of VG's information. I've heard the Durango information is from:

2009
2010
2011
2012
2013

2009/2010? Do you have a source for that, because I am pretty sure even Microsoft didnt knew the current specs back then. And whats wrong with the other dates? If the specs did not change... then they did not change.
 
Well I imagine that they'd be able to preload a lot of information from an HDD or a Blu-ray to such an ample pile of RAM. If streaming worked so well with some current gen titles, I can't think that loading all the time for new areas is a necessity.

If games are delivered on disk you will see load times, hell games delivered on HDD will still have load times. The days of Super Nintendo style sub 2 second load times are over, mechanic parts make sure of that. You might not see a load screen with "now loading" but you'll definitely have some sort of video that you can't skip until a few seconds into the video.
 
Gemüsepizza;49869402 said:
2009/2010? Do you have a source for that, because I am pretty sure even Microsoft didnt knew the current specs back then. And whats wrong with the other dates? If the specs did not change... then they did not change.

No source, I've horribly worded that post. What I was trying to say is that posters on message forums slide the timeline in which VGLeaks specs are from. I've read people claim the VGelaks are from 2009, 2010, 2011, etc. I guess they figure if they say it enough it'll become true.
 
Some one should do this, seriously. The VGLeaks guys have responded in the past and we should be able to get some kind of answer on this as well.


How does that indicate MS changing specs???

Because The G5 was not final hardware or even that close. And what we know now about the specs are development kits specs.
 
Wasn't that G5 dev kit sent out in the alpha kit? Quite sure it wasn't in the beta dev kit

G5 stuff was hella old, but that's what they used at E3 2005. MS sent out the beta kits/final kits shortly after. That was due to the increase in memory most likely since they had to refab everything to accommodate the memory increase.
 
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