What if they packaged Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain together with Phantom Pain being a fictional game inside the Ground Zeroes world?
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What if they packaged Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain together with Phantom Pain being a fictional game inside the Ground Zeroes world?
There's no "I'm not sure," "I lean toward real, but CGI wouldn't surprise me." "I lean toward CGI, but real wouldn't surprise me." options. Not voting until you correct your poll to be less black and white and more (50) shades of grey.
That said let's talk about that CGI render face in the Fox engine because that's PHENOMENAL. Like holy shit. I thought the facial animations in Uncharted 1-3 looked good for PS3 tech. PS4 and beyond is going to be some seriously mental shit if that face is what they're going to be animating.
The 3 things more "hyped" about Fox Engine:
Lightning:
See through clothes:
Face Rendering:
Obviously you would like to show all 3 right, if you were Kojima?
BAM!:
"Photorealism through the eyes of a Fox" - GDC Panel name.
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I just rocked your world, now come to TeamCG!
Can someone put down any evidence on behalf of either side that pulls me to their side?
Just from watching it, it's obviously just a bad cosplay.
but they render everything they can on PC, wich is where the game clearly shines and it's meant to be played if capable
this is where the game is gonna be at. You dont show something impressive to then say that you can't do that with the consoles and show a way less exciting thing
who'd do that? how is that a way of promoting a product? they are showing an engine for the next Metal Gear game, they are not trying to outsource it to PC developers
it would be super counter productive for MGS5 dude
Kojima is lame. What's even the need for this? Just tell us the real name of the game and a release date/plataforms. I'm an fan of the MGS series, but Kojima must have some real sick problems. Probably bipolar or something. And everyone is a bit part guilt on this awful marketing strategy. Just don't support this, ignore and the man will grow the fuck up from he's need for attention 24/7. Even writing this here I'm giving just more attention to him, so I will keep just to this one post.
First thing that pops up in my head, PS4 reveal. Quantic Dream showing a head and absolutely nothing else to show what their engine is capable of on the PS4. That doesn't mean the entire game is going to look amazing just because they can render a single head.
ARE YOU FOR OR AGAINST?!
there is one moment where he looks right at the camera
team real
Here's an idea, what if all footage shown for Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain were only created for events? What was seen isn't actually from the real projects, the real project is a next gen game, while Kojima made trailers and footage using a PC toned down or equivalent to current gen consoles.
Hell, "Ground Zeroes" could literally mean that the gameplay shown for Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain are just foundations for what the next gen Metal Gear will be, what was shown was all conceptual, while the actual product or project is completely different in tone and setting.
Basically, a current gen tease for what's going to happen in the future.
Here's an idea, what if all footage shown for Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain were only created for events? What was seen isn't actually from the real projects, the real project is a next gen game, while Kojima made trailers and footage using a PC toned down or equivalent to current gen consoles.
Hell, "Ground Zeroes" could literally mean that the gameplay shown for Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain are just foundations for what the next gen Metal Gear will be, what was shown was all conceptual, while the actual product or project is completely different in tone and setting.
Basically, a current gen tease for what's going to happen in the future.
Here's an idea, what if all footage shown for Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain were only created for events? What was seen isn't actually from the real projects, the real project is a next gen game, while Kojima made trailers and footage using a PC toned down or equivalent to current gen consoles.
Hell, "Ground Zeroes" could literally mean that the gameplay shown for Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain are just foundations for what the next gen Metal Gear will be, what was shown was all conceptual, while the actual product or project is completely different in tone and setting.
Basically, a current gen tease for what's going to happen in the future.
If true, I seriously think we should test Kojima for Jesus' DNA. How can any human being be this perfect?
this thread is reaching critical mass
Where is that purple pill?
I'm gonna say this was a real actor, and that the other gif in the OP is CG.
#TEAM HYBRID
Its real....
Also TeamHYBRID is TeamCG, as long as you think there's some CG in there you are part of TeamCG, there's no place for middle stances!
yet that head looks about 10 times less realistic than this supposed Joakim CG
You guys are just jelly of that Colgate smile.I'm in Team Hybrid.
His teeth are too white!
This whole thing started after someone posted a theory on /v/. I feel embarrassed for GAF.
You can't be serious about that dude come on.
this thread is reaching critical mass
I'm in Team Hybrid.
His teeth are too white!
Damn, teamCG just got schooledIt's not CG!
There is one fabric sticking out of one of the bandages on the top of his head. So either they are running a vector displacement map (32 bit floating point) or put a fabric simulation(that they used for the hair)/modeled it for that one piece (creating a separate shader to match the bandages). That piece would cause more harm than it would be worth and scan data (which would have to be used) would not be able to pick it up correctly and it supposedly being real time would probably result in flicker/aliasing (not matter how much you up the subdivs or aa bias). If it was CG, I'd say they would have just removed it to remove any potential problems... this is just one of my theories.
#teamReal
What if some clips of him are real and some are CG??? "Can you tell the difference?" says Kojima a few weeks from now
Can someone put down any evidence on behalf of either side that pulls me to their side?
Geoff Keighley posted here saying GDC will be great.
In this thread? That's all he said? Geoff is trolling us now?
Here you go.
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It's not CG!
There is one fabric sticking out of one of the bandages on the top of his head. So either they are running a vector displacement map (32 bit floating point) or put a fabric simulation(that they used for the hair)/modeled it for that one piece (creating a separate shader to match the bandages). That piece would cause more harm than it would be worth and scan data (which would have to be used) would not be able to pick it up correctly and it supposedly being real time would probably result in flicker/aliasing (not matter how much you up the subdivs or aa bias). If it was CG, I'd say they would have just removed it to remove any potential problems... this is just one of my theories.
#teamReal
Kojima is lame. What's even the need for this? Just tell us the real name of the game and a release date/plataforms. I'm an fan of the MGS series, but Kojima must have some real sick problems. Probably bipolar or something. And everyone is a bit part guilt on this awful marketing strategy. Just don't support this, ignore and the man will grow the fuck up from he's need for attention 24/7. Even writing this here I'm giving just more attention to him, so I will keep just to this one post.
Here you go.
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