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Metal Gear Solid V announced (PS360, open world)

Yeah Ishmael could be a self projection "hence the bandages"
And FOX vs XOF could be a clue too, I mean Diamond Dogs too was never reference in BB history and BB didn't have a mental horn in MG either or any sign of scaring in MGS4. I don't know

Which he should be completely fucked up far worse in, since it takes place after Solid burns him up in the 8 bit games. So he's definitely been fixed up or regrown or something by then.
 
Which he should be completely fucked up far worse in, since it takes place after Solid burns him up in the 8 bit games. So he's definitely been fixed up or regrown or something by then.

They used parts from Solidus and Liquid to rebuild him. Remember how Solidus was essentially a barely-alive corpse in Act 3?
 
Which he should be completely fucked up far worse in, since it takes place after Solid burns him up in the 8 bit games. So he's definitely been fixed up or regrown or something by then.
They used Solidus body parts, wasn't a regrowth
If it was they could have regrown his eye lol
Also that Metal Gear Wiki is inaccurate compared to the MGSDB available on PS3
 
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Big Boss in the Diamond Dogs gear with the cigar and Harley is probably after everything else considering he appears to have a bionic hand.

Looks more like a scar than a horn there.

Or maybe... Metal Gear Solid V.......

Hmm...




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They used Solidus body parts, wasn't a regrowth
If it was they could have regrown his eye lol
Also that Metal Gear Wiki is inaccurate compared to the MGSDB available on PS3

Database has all sorts of contradictions. It's pretty awful, but I guess it can be used by newcomers to get a basic idea of the storylines.
 
Then why would Ocelot look older in MGS5 than Big Boss with grey hair while Big Boss didn't get any? Big Boss in MGS3 was like 30 years old whike Ocelot 18. Ocelot is russian so is his father The Sorrow with the special powers. Psycho Mantis may be related to him. I think in Omega Camp, they are abducting children frol allover the world, who are prone to special powers, sth like X-Men or Mutant X or whatever.

His hair just went white earlier, doesn't mean he's older.
 
His hair just went white earlier, doesn't mean he's older.

Apart from the white hair, he doesn't even look particularly old. He looks like a cross between his appearances in 3 and 1.

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(Using Twin Snakes because it's a better choice for comparison than the blurry PS1 original or Shinkawa's artwork.
 
While I love mgs, I really wish Kojima would have gone with a new ip. The mgs universe is pretty fubar at this point. I mean he's running out of shit to retcon.

Maybe he'll finally show the events right before or during outer heaven.

Normally I don't care about stories in games, but Kojima puts a lot of emphasis in mgs.
 
^ Yes looks like Mantis Kid and that horn guy who haunted Snake and Ishmael at the hospital.
 
I can't stop watching that trailer. Really love when the music complements the visuals, especially in the last parts when they show the credit titles and it goes along with the sound very nicely.
 
Database has all sorts of contradictions. It's pretty awful, but I guess it can be used by newcomers to get a basic idea of the storylines.
Not all of it was document in the games I know and some have change
Also, Solid Snake was in the Green Berets in the 80's before he joined Big Boss at Foxhound
Thats interesting
 
Wait so wtf.

Solid/Liquid are born before Peace Walker? I thought they cloned Boss during his coma. The coma is definitely after Peace Walker, though. When does Big Boss supposively find out about the twins? Isn't that the point that he splits from the Patriots/Zero? Is my understanding of everything totally jacked? lol
 
I just noticed there is two of them on the fiery horse.

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Yep. I just posted that before. The real person is the kid Psycho Mantis while the burning horned figure is wed around him à la Susano or Devil Bringer. The whole surreal things in the game are all Psycho Mantis' work. I still don't know the obsession with horns in this game: burning horned figure, unicorn, horned Big Boss, Project Ogre/Oni.
 
Wait so wtf.

Solid/Liquid are born before Peace Walker? I thought they cloned Boss during his coma. The coma is definitely after Peace Walker, though. When does Big Boss supposively find out about the twins? Isn't that the point that he splits from the Patriots/Zero? Is my understanding of everything totally jacked? lol

apparently big boss went into coma 2 times, the first one is only for a short time happened before Peace Walker and this is when Zero start the cloning project.
 
apparently big boss went into coma 2 times, the first one is only for a short time happened before Peace Walker and this is when Zero start the cloning project.

Yeah, Big Boss was into comas, a short one in the early 70's and then a 9 years long one in 1980 I think.

Plus whatever he was into once he was burned to death and then rebuild
 
apparently big boss went into coma 2 times, the first one is only for a short time happened before Peace Walker and this is when Zero start the cloning project.

And the fact that Zero tried to frame MSF for the a nuke attack at the end of PW would suggest that BB already found out about the project.
 
It annoys the shit out of me, i really want to know what that horn thingy is :/

Yeah I'm kind of annoyed by it as well. With all the stuff going on in the trailer and gameplay demo and whatnot, the horn is the only thing that rubs me the wrong way for some reason.

I don't like it one bit.
 
Just looking at the Gamesradar MGS timeline that was linked earlier and its got me wondering if we're looking at things in the wrong order. According to that BB was in a coma before Peace Walker
Again, that's according to a line from the English version of Metal Gear Solid. The original (Japanese) version didn't say anything about a coma.
So that might be "Blaustein-canon", but...
(Not that Kojima cares all that much about sticking to his own canon anyway.)


So the 3 people in the hospital are Big Boss, Kaz, and Solid Snake?
If that part is the end of "Ground Zeroes" (and it seems to be), Solid Snake would be around... 2, at that point. Anyway, not even a teenager. Seems somewhat unlikely.


Wait so wtf.
Solid/Liquid are born before Peace Walker? I thought they cloned Boss during his coma.
See above. That "coma" thing was just a very liberal translation.
 
Can someone explain to me Big Boss being burned and reconstructed from Solidus?

Surely we aren't talking about him being burned in MG1, right? He would have had to be reconstructed again in order to show up in MG2, correct? How could he have been reconstructed that fast from Solidus' parts, when Solidus is perfectly fine in MGS2, only shown to be hacked to bits in MGS4?
 
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